Drought/Low Rainfall Watch - Summer 2018

hinault · 16-07-2018 10:51am

I was speaking to a man from Southampton, who's over here on holiday. He was telling me that where he lives has been cremated with the heat. His allotment this year is dying a death.

Donegal Storm · 16-07-2018 11:05am

hinault wrote: »

I was speaking to a man from Southampton, who's over here on holiday. He was telling me that where he lives has been cremated with the heat. His allotment this year is dying a death.

Parts of southern and eastern England haven't had more than a few drops of rain all summer so far so they're faring even worse than us. Still no sign hosepipe bans though interestingly..

Here's the synops for Shoeburyness in Essex for example, its missing a report for the 13th of June when it seems there was a shower but apart from that not even 0.1mm of rain recorded since the start of June

https://www.ogimet.com/cgi-bin/gsynres?lang=en&ind=03693&ndays=50&ano=2018&mes=07&day=16&hora=06&ord=REV&Send=Send

Scandanavia also in the midst of a historic drought

https://www.theepochtimes.com/extreme-weather-causes-severe-drought-in-scandinavia_2590442.html

DOCARCH · 16-07-2018 11:33am

3.4mm in Dublin 16 yesterday.

Total for July, so far, now stands at 4.2mm, following 8.0mm in June and 16.8mm in May.

patneve2 · 16-07-2018 1:01pm

DOCARCH wrote: »

3.4mm in Dublin 16 yesterday.

Total for July, so far, now stands at 4.2mm, following 8.0mm in June and 16.8mm in May.

Looks like the rainfall stats for Almeria or something similar

And there are probably some locations that got even less rainfall than you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Almer%C3%ADa#Climate

Graces7 · 16-07-2018 1:18pm

Donegal Storm wrote: »

Parts of southern and eastern England haven't had more than a few drops of rain all summer so far so they're faring even worse than us. Still no sign hosepipe bans though interestingly..

about to happen it seems...

http://www.hosepipeban.org.uk/

Cantona's Collars · 16-07-2018 1:45pm

Some rain last night here in Wexford,not enough to have any impact.
On the bypass works around Enniscorthy there are tankers constantly spreading water to keep the dust down, it's drying up and evaporated within minutes so it's a non stop process and a battle that the dry weather is winning.

pad199207 · 16-07-2018 2:25pm

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

Some rain last night here in Wexford,not enough to have any impact.
On the bypass works around Enniscorthy there are tankers constantly spreading water to keep the dust down, it's drying up and evaporated within minutes so it's a non stop process and a battle that the dry weather is winning.

Same here. They are sucking the water out of the stream beside my house in order to keep the dust down in the building sites nearby

Cantona's Collars · 16-07-2018 3:36pm

One of my neighbours is siphoning their huge paddling pool straight down the drain, they'd be better served to let it out onto the lawn.
I wonder what they'll do next week if we get the projected return to hot weather.

iamwhoiam · 16-07-2018 4:15pm

Cantona's Collars wrote: »

One of my neighbours is siphoning their huge paddling pool straight down the drain, they'd be better served to let it out onto the lawn.
I wonder what they'll do next week if we get the projected return to hot weather.

What a waste . ! We used our pool water to water the flowers and what was left we put it in a water barrel to use again . The flowers were chuffed with the lovely sun warmed water !

road_high · 16-07-2018 7:57pm

BliainanAir wrote: »

Interesting graphic. With all due respect to the rest of the country, the real drought is in Leinster, east Munster. Mayo, Donegal and areas in the north west, west, south west, were always going to recover quickly

Connaught and Ulster were around the 50-60mm deficit level. Hector in June, and a little more rainfall in general in mid June, meant drought conditions weren't as severe there. It's much easier for those regions to recoup deficits with Atlantic systems tracking from south west to north east. In Leinster and parts of Waterford and Tipp deficits are 80-100mm. Leinster received 1-3mm today. A drop in the ocean of what's required.

Thundery weather from the south or an Atlantic regieme with the Jet over Ireland is the only quick fix for the south east.

From my travels definitely the south east- counties Kildare, Carlow, Kilkenny, Waterford, Wexford, Laois, Wicklow and Dublin are by far the worst affected I think moreover the Barrow and Nore valleys and surrounds in particular are burnt to a crisp.
Was up west at the weekend and there is absolutely no comparison- things are dry but not burned to a crisp (like the south east) and will be greened again by the nice drop of rain over the weekend (again the south east barely got a drop). Things could get critical in these counties (already are in ways) very soon. I've never seen the main rivers as low with many smaller tributaries dry or almost dry.

Gaoth Laidir · 16-07-2018 10:27pm

Here are the latest grass-growth figures, in kg of dry matter per hectare per day. The average for this time of the year is around 70-80 kg DM/ha/da, but look at Wexford there at only 9.

SleetAndSnow · 16-07-2018 10:45pm

Just Arrived back in cork city after over a week away. Flying into cork airport, all the fields were basically yellow with only a few exceptions which I’ve not seen before. The Lough in the city center has the lowest water level I’ve seen, able to see the wall beginning to round.

Grass still hasn’t grown outside the house and has become even more yellow, only thing growing is weeds. No improvement really

Graces7 · 17-07-2018 6:33am

As is being said, we out here in the West are blessed. I heard a shower in the night too. All sounds devastated and devastating elsewhere.

Hang on in there; has to break sometime.

West Mayo, offshore island

whelan2 · 17-07-2018 12:33pm

Gaoth Laidir wrote: »

Here are the latest grass-growth figures, in kg of dry matter per hectare per day. The average for this time of the year is around 70-80 kg DM/ha/da, but look at Wexford there at only 9.

Take those figures with a pinch of salt. Most farmers aren't measuring at all this last few weeks due to zero growth

SleetAndSnow · 17-07-2018 12:35pm

The Cork County Council are out cutting the grass today. They are literally just driving over the grass and its not cutting anything except a few tall weeds its so short. Any bits they can cut are now yellow, removing some of the remaining green..

17-07-2018 1:13pm

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

The Cork County Council are out cutting the grass today. They are literally just driving over the grass and its not cutting anything except a few tall weeds its so short. Any bits they can cut are now yellow, removing some of the remaining green..

This is really dumb. It just destroys what is left of the green grass. They did this in parts of Ballincollig last week and there is not a green blade left.

sryanbruen · 17-07-2018 1:34pm

https://twitter.com/Arklowweather/status/1019179655486758913

SleetAndSnow · 17-07-2018 1:39pm

Very light drizzle in cork city, stopped now but it didn’t wet anything except cars. Ground is bone dry.

Leaves are turning yellow here. Last “proper” rain was the May 12th thunderstorms if I recall.

hinault · 17-07-2018 2:04pm

Very overcast in north Dublin city this morning. There were a couple of drops of rain but nothing to register on any scale. Clouds are dark but little or no rainfall.

Graces7 · 17-07-2018 2:18pm

Heavy shower and all is sodden and humid and the midges are starving! Here the drought is well on its way out..
Lovely familiar weather..

West Mayo. offshore island

JJayoo · 17-07-2018 2:45pm

I planted 600 oak trees this year from about Jan- march, a lot of them have lost their leaves

hopefully they aren't dead

Cantona's Collars · 17-07-2018 2:46pm

Just drove past a contractor cutting the 'green' areas around one estate down here in Wexford. All he's doing is rising dust.

pauldry · 17-07-2018 6:38pm

yes v heavy shower in Sligo just there.

5mm in one hour

Think Met Eireann need to amend the Scattered Light showers wording and add some heavier bursts in the Northwest....Markree had 4.7mm

So far in Sligo its rained Saturday Sunday Monday (a little)and Tuesday so there is a "NOWT" here.

Probably will last 10 months like the one before the 40 dry days.

mickmackey1 · 17-07-2018 6:41pm

Just letting you know that we'll be coming up to steal your water very soon.

pauldry · 17-07-2018 6:56pm

Next week looks pretty wet after Monday....so far

So wait till then before you steal

I still think a washout August is possible but most others dont

sryanbruen · 17-07-2018 6:59pm

pauldry wrote: »

Next week looks pretty wet after Monday....so far

So wait till then before you steal

I still think a washout August is possible but most others dont

Who are these "most others"?

tanko · 17-07-2018 7:02pm

pauldry wrote: »

Next week looks pretty wet after Monday....so far

So wait till then before you steal

I still think a washout August is possible but most others dont

Can you expand on this a bit please, how much rain are we talking about??

km79 · 17-07-2018 7:12pm

pauldry wrote: »

Next week looks pretty wet after Monday....so far

So wait till then before you steal

I still think a washout August is possible but most others dont

Law of averages
I’m with you

iamwhoiam · 17-07-2018 7:14pm

So sorry for my post ! I posted in the wrong thread . It must have looked so rude . Sorry

sryanbruen · 17-07-2018 7:15pm

I expect August to be a much more unsettled month, I'm just curious of who are these many others? The only model or outlook I've seen that suggests more of the same is the UK Met Office Glosea5 model. CFSv2 flips and flops every week but for the past few days, it's shown a major change of the pattern with northern blocking setting up during August and a trough parked over top of us. BCC is much the same.

pauldry · 17-07-2018 8:13pm

Law of averages I base my opinion on too

Many others that I rely on are basically just trawling through different articles online about the drought and seeing that it will continue severe right through Summer

From what I see I was thinking in NW wed get dry until 10th July and then rain most days after that. It was actually dry until the weekend and Id say thats it for Sligo Summer. How can I know that? I cant but its been extremely dry for NW and rain is very likely here.

The worst I think the South and East will get is half their normal rain rest of Summer and West 1.5times normal

August though could slap me in the face with another heatwave. Im just going on a hunch. 2mm of further rain since I last wrote. If the low next week did manage to come down on us it could create really heavy rain and the West could end up near normal rain for the month.

That would be as amazing as the drought.

KingdomRushed · 18-07-2018 8:47am

pauldry wrote: »

Law of averages I base my opinion on too

Many others that I rely on are basically just trawling through different articles online about the drought and seeing that it will continue severe right through Summer

From what I see I was thinking in NW wed get dry until 10th July and then rain most days after that. It was actually dry until the weekend and Id say thats it for Sligo Summer. How can I know that? I cant but its been extremely dry for NW and rain is very likely here.

The worst I think the South and East will get is half their normal rain rest of Summer and West 1.5times normal

August though could slap me in the face with another heatwave. Im just going on a hunch. 2mm of further rain since I last wrote. If the low next week did manage to come down on us it could create really heavy rain and the West could end up near normal rain for the month.

That would be as amazing as the drought.

I would agree that the models are beginning to close in on a pattern now of a low stalled near the west coast for end of July/ early August. To me it signals an increasing likelihood that the drought may end with appreciable rain, enough to offset some of the deficit and lessen the criticality going into Autumn. Will be interesting to watch this

km79 · 18-07-2018 8:49am

Stalled front
I hate seeing those words in the weather forum

Villain · 18-07-2018 8:54am

KingdomRushed wrote: »

I would agree that the models are beginning to close in on a pattern now of a low stalled near the west coast for end of July/ early August. To me it signals an increasing likelihood that the drought may end with appreciable rain, enough to offset some of the deficit and lessen the criticality going into Autumn. Will be interesting to watch this

The problem could be a tale of two halves though with the west seeing plenty of rain and the east seeing very little.

The models have been pushing a proper breakdown back and back for weeks now. I’m sure it will eventually come and the Atlantic will bring some much needed rain, I just wouldn’t be sure it will be all of the Island!

Oneiric 3 · 18-07-2018 1:34pm

Despite the recent rainfall in some places, the running 28 day total up to yesterday, which stands at just 16.6mm (23%) is now at is lowest value this year so far.

Some rain forecast for last Thursday/early Friday, but totals look scant.

Data from Met Éireann.

sryanbruen · 18-07-2018 4:27pm

Status Yellow - Weather Advisory for Leinster and Munster

Update:
Soil moisture deficits will generally remain in excess of 75mm over the coming week.

Next update Wednesday 25th July.

Issued: Wednesday 18 July 2018 15:00

Updated: Wednesday 18 July 2018 15:00

Valid from Wednesday 18 July 2018 15:07 to Wednesday 25 July 2018 15:00

giveitholly · 18-07-2018 4:32pm

sryanbruen wrote: »

Status Yellow - Weather Advisory for Leinster and Munster

Update:
Soil moisture deficits will generally remain in excess of 75mm over the coming week.

Next update Wednesday 25th July.

Issued: Wednesday 18 July 2018 15:00

Updated: Wednesday 18 July 2018 15:00

Valid from Wednesday 18 July 2018 15:07 to Wednesday 25 July 2018 15:00

Not good news for farmers and vegetable growers

SleetAndSnow · 18-07-2018 5:15pm

Just drove through Inashannon in Cork where you drive over a bridge to get a look st the river Bandon. I’ve never seen it so low in 18 years of life really. Too think it was on the verge of flooding the town again a few months ago and now it’s most likely at a record low. There are actual verges I’ve never seen and the fields next to it which are usually level, are about 30-40cm above the water now.

West cork is like the city, bone dry with cracking earth

Meteorite58 · 18-07-2018 10:02pm

https://twitter.com/worldagweather/status/1019299107100348416

joeysoap · 18-07-2018 10:04pm

Hosepipe van ending in Northern Ireland tomorrow.

M.T. Cranium · 20-07-2018 5:47am

and probably the ban as well ... nice radar imagery over Ulster overnight, 5.0 mm at Ballyhaise past hour alone, 10-20 mm appears to have fallen in most of the north.

Graces7 · 20-07-2018 6:17am

M.T. Cranium wrote: »

and probably the ban as well ... nice radar imagery over Ulster overnight, 5.0 mm at Ballyhaise past hour alone, 10-20 mm appears to have fallen in most of the north.

Lovely to see the met.ie map this morning. That the rest of Ireland is getting much-needed rain,,

Rain here in West Mayo; offshore island

Rock Lesnar · 20-07-2018 6:37am

Drought over here anyway, lashed rain most of the night, dark miserable and wet at the minute, hate it

Rebelbrowser · 20-07-2018 7:18am

Rock Lesnar wrote: »

Drought over here anyway, lashed rain most of the night, dark miserable and wet at the minute, hate it

not a drop down here and the met.ie rainfall forecast shows 0.0m of rain forecast down here over the next 6 days. v worrying........

20-07-2018 7:21am

Rebelbrowser wrote: »

not a drop down here and the met.ie rainfall forecast shows 0.0m of rain forecast down here over the next 6 days. v worrying........

Rain completely missed us in Cork City as you say and looks like we will get nothing from that front. Real crisis here at the moment.

KingdomRushed · 20-07-2018 7:52am

Overall the breakdown is underway as it has been in very slow motion since the days of unbroken sunshine ended 2 weeks or so ago. This is the second front to cross the country in 5 days, and a little more substantive than the last. More rain due on Tuesday, and by month end the promise of significant rainfall to really break the back of drought even in the south east. I expect a very wet end to summer.

hinault · 20-07-2018 7:59am

On 07.00 hrs train from Dublin to Cork, very overcast throughout the midlands so far and it appears to be raining heavily in sections of Kildare, Laois.

uck51js9zml2yt · 20-07-2018 8:08am

There is something falling from the sky in D7 and it's not sunshine. It's also making the ground not dry

sryanbruen · 20-07-2018 8:14am

Lovely persistent moderate rainfall all night in Dublin 13.

Mobhi1 · 20-07-2018 8:15am

Rain a lot heavier here this morning than I expected. There's been 4.8mm recorded so far today. The temperature's currently 13.3C.

Drought/Low Rainfall Watch - Summer 2018

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