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If you failed to get to a life boat on the Titanic?

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 48 Hint of Sarcasm


    beerguts wrote: »
    I'd lure one of the watch officers to a cabin under the pretense that I had found a women unconscious. As he entered the room I would strangle him with my bow tie. Here I would the strip him don his clothes and then take command of one of the life rafts and its occupants
    Could you actually do that? And live with it? I don't think it would work for several reasons anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,259 ✭✭✭Kaybaykwah


    Andrewf20 wrote: »
    Titanic, real time sinking. Video is a bit eerie to watch. You have about 2 and a bit hours to get yourself ready.

    How could a half full lifeboat refuse someone??? Come one! It would not happen. The majority of passengers would have sympathy and let you in.
    You're forgetting one thing. If you jumped in early, you'd have two and a half hours to swim away from the ship. The only danger of being sucked down was after it cracked in two. And after that there was only something like 5 minutes left anyway.

    Sure there'd be a bit of a wave from the suction, but it wouldn't be enough to topple my raft. I would wait at the bow of the ship for the water to come up and row away calmly to the other lifeboats. I'd then tie myself on to one of these boats with my rope. Simple as that.
    If I had two hours to put my mind to it... with all the materials there would be around; then yeah, I'd come up with something.


    You wouldn't be able to splash around more than a couple of minutes in that freezing water, as others have pointed out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 355 ✭✭delboythedub


    PeteEd wrote: »
    is there anything to be said for another mass

    In the Bar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,457 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    What was the movie where they escaped from a prison and had to swim in extreme cold waters? Anyway, they covered themselves in grease then wrapped themselves in clingfilm. This could potentially extend the time it would have taken for you to freeze to death in the water and increase your chances of getting picked up.

    You think they had cling film prior to its invention?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭Rawr


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Ride on the back of a humpback whale to Norway... :pac:

    Gracie is pregnant...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,505 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    Can't believe no one climbed onto the iceberg and built an igloo. Live on penguins and water until rescued

    Green or red ones?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    lawred2 wrote: »
    You think they had cling film prior to its invention?

    Good point ha ha, so maybe some kind of tarp maybe.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 2,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭Oink


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    Ride on the back of a humpback whale to Norway... :pac:

    Are you willing to stand between a Norwegian harpoon and a whale? Brave man...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    i'd scour the decks looking for Kate Winslet and see if she's up for a quick nude sketch ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭Idle Passerby


    Are you sure the crew actually said that? I thought the problem was that people didn't believe the crew. I think maybe the crew explained that the life jackets were just as a precaution. And the other problem I heard was that a general alarm wasn't sounded by Captain Smith.

    I can't claim to be an expert on it so I'm not sure that the crew downplayed the seriousness. I did hear/read somewhere that the first lifeboats launched were only half full because there was a genuine belief that evacuating was an overreaction and they'd be rowing back after an hour or two and when the crisis was over. But I don't know where this info came from.

    If the alarm wasn't properly sounded by the Captain there may have been confusion over what the official prognosis was.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 270 ✭✭beerguts


    Olivia2 wrote: »
    Ahhh but its easy to make a plan...there would be some point in the 'film' where someone vulnerable would approach you for help....how would you handle to that?

    That would require some improvisation on my part. I think my best strategy in this situation would be aggression towards the person. If they asked me for help I would have to show them comtemp and pretend that there concerns are insignificant compared to what I would be pretending to be doing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 270 ✭✭beerguts


    Could you actually do that? And live with it? I don't think it would work for several reasons anyway.

    I have never lived through a desperate event like so it is impossible to say whether I could actually do the dead as described. However as a human I have the ability to rationalize behavior when my own self preservation is at stake


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,181 ✭✭✭chrissb8


    Rip up something that floats, get a rope and tie it to a lifeboat. Eat a cheeseboard and wait to be rescued.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,164 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    I'd walk purposefully to the bridge to have some strong words with the Captain and get his assurance that this will not affect the rest of the trip, which, I would remind him, I had already paid for. Then I'd probably look for some finger food, take it to comfortable corner on deck and sob quietly while I waited for a rescue airship to arrive.

    Karen’s body was found years later locked in a room adjacent to the bridge


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,164 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Identify as a woman. That way you can't be denied a place on the lifeboats.

    The trans men will be tested to the limits !


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    beerguts wrote: »
    That would require some improvisation on my part. I think my best strategy in this situation would be aggression towards the person. If they asked me for help I would have to show them comtemp and pretend that there concerns are insignificant compared to what I would be pretending to be doing.

    I've been watching Black Summer, a show about a zombie apocalypse. It's ok. Anyway people get into trouble where they need to escape, think and act fast and your strategy is the strategy of the majority of people in it. They all **** each other over and are reluctant to help anyone. It makes for some interesting scenarios. It can also create problems that would not occur. Your strategy will be relying heavily on others to behave more humanly than you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Lucy8080


    I think we are all missing the elephant in the room here!

    The industrial North ( mainly protestant/Unionist) built and set this ship on its way. Everyone on board had a belief that it would reach its destination.

    If Michael O'Leary was in charge of that operation, nobody on board would have taken a chance on getting anywhere near their desired destination!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,404 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    These would have been great


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    Based on my current standing in the levels of class I wouldn’t have a hope of getting on a boat

    So to the bar and get loaded with whiskey and enjoy my last few minutes alive


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  • Registered Users Posts: 270 ✭✭beerguts


    Olivia2 wrote: »
    I've been watching Black Summer, a show about a zombie apocalypse. It's ok. Anyway people get into trouble where they need to escape, think and act fast and your strategy is the strategy of the majority of people in it. They all **** each other over and are reluctant to help anyone. It makes for some interesting scenarios. It can also create problems that would not occur. Your strategy will be relying heavily on others to behave more humanly than you.

    No argument with any of that. But I think it is a better option that trying to be brave and enter the north Atlantic. When resources are scarce it really is every man for himself. That's my take on it anyway


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 48 Hint of Sarcasm


    Kaybaykwah wrote: »
    You wouldn't be able to splash around more than a couple of minutes in that freezing water, as others have pointed out.
    That's all the time I'd need to get to the life boat! And I were on my raft I wouldn't get wet.

    You people just don't get it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 48 Hint of Sarcasm


    Karen’s body was found years later locked in a room adjacent to the bridge
    What?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭Aurelian


    BBC history podcast last Sunday was Everything You Need To Know About The Titanic. Useful listen!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Lucy8080 wrote: »
    If Michael O'Leary was in charge of that operation, nobody on board would have taken a chance on getting anywhere near their desired destination!

    Sail on Titanic! By Ryanlines!

    2 sailings weekly from:

    Liverpool - Holyhead

    to

    New York - Newfoundland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    A door with room for one will do me just fine!!

    Or a wooden table.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,067 ✭✭✭✭fryup


    Lucy8080 wrote: »
    If Michael O'Leary was in charge of that operation, nobody on board would have taken a chance on getting anywhere near their desired destination!

    he'd have charged extra for getting on the lifeboats


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,688 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    I wonder what the A Team would have done. Probably go down to the engine room, invent the helicopter 30 years early before flying it off the deck


  • Registered Users Posts: 88 ✭✭Physeter


    Get to the bridge and put the Titanic into a tail spin to prevent flooding.

    "Do a 360 Leo!" *Darude - Sandstorm plays in the background*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    Your interpretation of feminism isn't, necessarily, the correct one.
    Feminism, as I understand it, is about gaining equal rights and opportunities for women.

    I struggle with the word feminist and would prefer the word egalitarian too but the rise of feminism must be viewed in the context of the appalling lack of rights and opportunities available to women at the time.

    I don't think you get to decide what feminism means.

    Men from lower class backgrounds in 1912 were equally denied rights


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 48 Hint of Sarcasm


    Andrewf20 wrote: »
    Titanic, real time sinking. Video is a bit eerie to watch. You have about 2 and a bit hours to get yourself ready.

    In this one you get to hear the band, and the marconi wireless operators.

    I love the different version of "Nearer, my God, to Thee" at the end. This was apparently the actual version they played!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,512 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    ineedeuro wrote: »
    Based on my current standing in the levels of class I wouldn’t have a hope of getting on a boat

    So to the bar and get loaded with whiskey and enjoy my last few minutes alive

    There was a Titanic tv ad by Guinness a few years back. Got cancelled.

    Too soon I guess.


  • Posts: 5,369 [Deleted User]


    What?

    Karen is a name used to describe people who demand lots and have a 'customer' complex.


  • Posts: 5,369 [Deleted User]


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    I wonder what the A Team would have done. Probably go down to the engine room, invent the helicopter 30 years early before flying it off the deck

    Using the stack as a flamethrower


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Hardly. Feminists see women as being more valuable than men.
    spurious wrote: »
    Untrue, but I knew someone would be along to blame women.
    Does either of you have some facts to back up your claims? I had a quick google there but found nothing to support either way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 461 ✭✭HerrKapitan


    I'd go look for a door. It's like a liferaft but with more privacy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The most important thing is to not lose body heat (stay out of the water for as long as possible).

    Gather deck chairs and tie together.
    Wait until the ship sinks, it won't drag you down.
    Leave at the very last second lying on the deck chairs.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 48 Hint of Sarcasm


    biko wrote: »
    The most important thing is to not lose body heat (stay out of the water for as long as possible).
    Really! I never knew.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 48 Hint of Sarcasm


    I'd go look for a door. It's like a liferaft but with more privacy.
    The floating door idea... as if no one thought of that before!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    In this one you get to hear the band, and the marconi wireless operators.

    I love the different version of "Nearer, my God, to Thee" at the end. This was apparently the actual version they played!


    A lot of whiskey in two hours, plus no smoking ban so I could puff away inside. Not like I had to worry about lung cancer


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,840 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    Yez are all thinking too straight.

    Break into first class cabin, rob it blind, wash rinse repeat. I may be about to die but feck it I’ll die rich

    If I get a chance I’ll write a will with a photo of me in all my finery giving it to my parents back home in Ireland so at least they’ll be able to claim insurance on all my goodies that I won in poker and then the rest of the knucklehead clan will be looked after for their lives.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,531 ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    I'd select a handsome man in third class, flash my boobs and steam up the windows of a car. When the ship is sinking he'll ensure I survive.

    No need to worry about a lifeboat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭DodoDojo


    As a man I would have had a quick shave, squeezed into the most feminine dress I could find, thrown on enough makeup to make RuPaul blush and head to where the musicians were playing and had a little dance.

    Once I found out there was an issue and the boat was sinking though, I would probably be mortified they would find my body like that, so the first thing I would do is change back to my regular clothes and then maybe find some bottles to send messages in before I died.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,408 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    ineedeuro wrote: »
    A lot of whiskey in two hours, plus no smoking ban so I could puff away inside. Not like I had to worry about lung cancer

    Imagine you survived after drinking all that whiskey with a mother****er of a hangover and no memory of the boat sinking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    None of those who went into the water and were not subsequently picked up by a lifeboat or a ship survived. Not one. Immersion meant death and WW 1 and 2 forced the Admiralties and Marine authorities world over to pay attention to casualty rates among sailors and passengers and to make improvements to survival equipment such as fitting lights and whistles to life preservers,equipping ships with sufficient boats, putting survival rations into boats, improving training for crew,forcing companies to standardise on kit and training and making maritime safety law. Look up the Carley Float. It was a primitive lifeboat but it saved thousands.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭DodoDojo


    The drunk baker went to the water and survived:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Joughin


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    I would make a raft from all the deckchairs being rearranged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭Feisar


    When I was a wee lad I used to play the ball. Feck the ball, play the man and the ball will be there afterwards.
    Tool up and take a lifeboat from idiots that lacked the wherewithal to protect themselves.

    Failing that I made a serviceable boat from 1x2, duct tape and plastic sheeting one time.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 989 ✭✭✭ineedeuro


    Imagine you survived after drinking all that whiskey with a mother****er of a hangover and no memory of the boat sinking.

    The amount of whiskey in the blood might help to save you when in the water? You never know....problem is would you be able to get access to the hair of the dog next day...rescue boat bar open?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,728 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Feisar wrote: »
    When I was a wee lad I used to play the ball. Feck the ball, play the man and the ball will be there afterwards.
    Tool up and take a lifeboat from idiots that lacked the wherewithal to protect themselves.

    Failing that I made a serviceable boat from 1x2, duct tape and plastic sheeting one time.

    Duct tape was 1942. You gonna drown buddy!!

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,666 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    If MacGyver went back in time, you might have got one raft made, chairs , buoyancy aids , might be some barrels in the kitchen stores, float it off if you picked the perfect place to launch it.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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