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  • #32
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I just wish someone would show me the attraction to the right...

    I bet you don't really.;)


  • #33
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Jaxson Fresh Silver wrote: »
    And there is equality between the sexes here, whereas there isn't in other parts of the world - but often those on the left don't criticise those other societies.

    No there isn't equality here.

    We don't have equal amount of
    Female/male electricians
    Female/male nurses
    Female/male teachers
    Female/male members of boards
    Female/male carers
    Female/male stay at home parents
    Female/male TD's


  • #34
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    I bet you don't really.;)

    Well, at least help me understand it, because what I perceive as a mainly self serving philosophy genuinely baffles me.


  • #35
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    i wish someone would show be the attraction to extreme left.
    we are moving that way alarmingly fast and ruining the country

    In what way is the country being ruined?


  • #36
    Danjamin1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Danjamin1


    Deleted User wrote: »
    No there isn't equality here.

    We don't have equal amount of
    Female/male electricians
    Female/male nurses
    Female/male teachers
    Female/male members of boards
    Female/male carers
    Female/male stay at home parents
    Female/male TD's

    I don’t think perfect numerical or proportional balance is equality, some careers are going to be more attractive to men, some to women. Parity & equal terms is closer to equality.


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  • #37
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,523 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Deleted User wrote: »
    No there isn't equality here.

    We don't have equal amount of
    Female/male electricians
    Female/male nurses
    Female/male teachers
    Female/male members of boards
    Female/male carers
    Female/male stay at home parents
    Female/male TD's

    i dont think you understand equality. its not have the same no of people doing each job. its about having equal opertunity to the job if you want.
    as it stands woman can do almost any job they want and men cannot


  • #38
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Deleted User wrote: »
    No there isn't equality here.

    We don't have equal amount of
    Female/male electricians
    Female/male nurses
    Female/male teachers
    Female/male members of boards
    Female/male carers
    Female/male stay at home parents
    Female/male TD's

    Female/male bricklayers
    Female/male rubbish collectors
    Female/male order pickers
    Female/male boncers


  • #39
    meeeeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    i wish someone would show be the attraction to extreme left.
    we are moving that way alarmingly fast and ruining the country

    No we are not, that's complete nonsense. Ireland is still very business friendly country but it needs to be because someone has to pay for public sector unions.

    And if you are talking about abortion etc that's just catching up.


  • #40
    Franz Von Peppercorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    No there isn't equality here.

    We don't have equal amount of
    Female/male electricians
    Female/male nurses
    Female/male teachers
    Female/male members of boards
    Female/male carers
    Female/male stay at home parents
    Female/male TD's

    In free societies people choose to do what they want and have different interests.

    None of this is leftism anyway. It’s liberal feminism.

    I’m old enough to remember when there were working class feminists, the brilliant Nell McCafferty who was a strong socialist and republican as well. Now it’s an upper middle class philosophy.


  • #41
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I just wish someone would show me the attraction to the right...

    If you spend your entire adult existence on one side of a left/right political divide you are a moron.

    A true progressive would never be defined that easily.


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  • #42
    Philosophy Zombie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34 ✭Philosophy Zombie


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    Politics aside, I think there are some people on here - far more than most other places on the internet - who constantly feel compelled to express the harshest and most uncharitable opinion possible, whatever the topic. It's almost as if they see being 'nice' as being indicative of weakness, of being a 'cuck' or a 'soy boy' (just two terms I've seen being used, without a hint of self-awareness, on this very website). I've no idea whether the cure is lots of hugs or a good kick in the bollocks.

    Boards/Afterhours is a walk in the park compared to loads of other places I find. Kiwi Farms forums.net has to be seen to be believed with warning signs on the sign-up page about users doxing each other.


  • #43
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Danjamin1 wrote: »
    I don’t think perfect numerical or proportional balance is equality, some careers are going to be more attractive to men, some to women. Parity & equal terms is closer to equality.

    Nah those on the left are looking for equality of outcome or as it is more commonly known as affirmative action.


  • #44
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    i wish someone would show be the attraction to extreme left.
    we are moving that way alarmingly fast and ruining the country

    A lot of what you might describe as 'the extreme left' is either bog-standard liberalism or social democracy.


  • #45
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,523 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Deleted User wrote: »
    In what way is the country being ruined?

    open your eyes. there are huge problems growing everywhere.

    we have younger generations that cannot work cook, look after themselves
    modern femanism poluting the minds with their anti male nonscense.
    generations growing up showing no respect for anyone or anything including the law
    scumbags breading like rabbits
    honest hardworking people cannot afford to live and would be better off scounging from the state


  • #46
    Silentcorner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Deleted User wrote: »
    No there isn't equality here.

    We don't have equal amount of
    Female/male electricians
    Female/male nurses
    Female/male teachers
    Female/male members of boards
    Female/male carers
    Female/male stay at home parents
    Female/male TD's

    Funnily enough you get plenty of women in construction industries in the workers republics like China.

    When you give women a choice of where to work, it seems they choose not to work in construction.

    Should we remove the choice?


  • #47
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    No there isn't equality here.

    We don't have equal amount of
    Female/male electricians
    Female/male nurses
    Female/male teachers
    Female/male members of boards
    Female/male carers
    Female/male stay at home parents
    Female/male TD's

    Do you think that would be equality? Equality is having the choice and being free from barriers.

    We're not there yet in most of those things, arguably, but equality isn't having equal numbers in everything.

    All things being equal, you'll never have equal numbers block layers or child carers. And that's cool, as long as the freedom is there.


  • #48
    meeeeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,624 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    open your eyes. there are huge problems growing everywhere.

    we have younger generations that cannot work cook, look after themselves
    modern femanism poluting the minds with their anti male nonscense.
    generations growing up showing no respect for anyone or anything including the law
    scumbags breading like rabbits
    honest hardworking people cannot afford to live and would be better off scounging from the state
    You and OP can fight this one out. It will be a perfect example of what is wrong about modern politics.


  • #49
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    open your eyes. there are huge problems growing everywhere.

    we have younger generations that cannot work cook, look after themselves
    modern feminism polluting the minds with their anti-male nonsense.
    generations growing up showing no respect for anyone or anything including the law
    scumbags breading like rabbits
    honest hardworking people cannot afford to live and would be better off scrounging from the state


    Don't be so negative.

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  • #50
    Danjamin1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 919 ✭✭✭Danjamin1


    My experience of all this is that anyone who defines themselves as left- or right-wing is a c**t. Life isn’t that black & white, you won’t get very far without compromise.


  • #51
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,523 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    Don't be so negative.

    61rbDlFI%2BuL._SX450_.jpg

    its not negative. its just the sad reality we have allowed to happen


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  • #52
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    open your eyes.

    Yeah, open your eyes, sheeple.


  • #53
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    its not negative. its just the sad reality we have allowed to happen

    I was agreeing with you turn on your sarcasm detector.
    :)


  • #54
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,523 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    meeeeh wrote: »
    You and OP can fight this one out. It will be a perfect example of what is wrong about modern politics.

    i have no interest in getting into a debate on politics. i hate politics. all hot air and BS buzz words and nothing to back it up


  • #55
    Gimme A Pound
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I just wish someone would show me the attraction to the right...
    You're depicting the right as just extremists. There are views right of the middle that i agree with and views left of the middle ditto.


  • #56
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    the_pen_turner wrote: »
    open your eyes. there are huge problems growing everywhere.

    we have younger generations that cannot work cook, look after themselves
    modern femanism poluting the minds with their anti male nonscense.
    generations growing up showing no respect for anyone or anything including the law
    scumbags breading like rabbits
    honest hardworking people cannot afford to live and would be better off scounging from the state

    I'd say modern grammar is being ruined first ;)

    (Sorry, cheap dig!)

    Point by point:
    1: Cooking, looking after themselves: do you know any young people? They're by far the fittest generation we've had due to gyms and working out not being niche things anymore. They know what nutrition is. They cannot work because you now need 3 years experience to be a waiter.
    2: Modern feminism is something I've already slightly gone in to. How about dudes just stop being dicks to women? It would solve a lot of problems.
    3: The government would do well by showing some respect to the law. Pay them properly and hire some more gardai.
    4: Breeding like rabbits? It was generations past that were churning out 9, 12, 16 kids regularly.
    5: Hardly the left's fault, they're the ones that want to build social housing and not pass on the current crisis to private landlords.


  • #57
    the_pen_turner
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,523 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'd say modern grammar is being ruined first ;)

    (Sorry, cheap dig!)

    Point by point:
    1: cooking, looking after themselves: do you know any young people? They're by far the fittest generation we've had due to gyms and working out not being niche things anymore. Tjey know what nutrition is. They cannot work because you now need 3 years experience to be a waiter. i know lots of young people that cant boil an egg, cook a basic dinner , change a tyre, put fuel in the car, light a fire, use a screwdriver.
    2: modern feminism is something I've already slightly gone in to. How about dudes just stop being dicks to women? It would solve a lot of problems.how about modern femanism stops blaming men for all the problems and realises that men and women can be just as good and bad as each other
    3: The government would do well by showing some respect to the law. Pay them properly and hire some more gardai.
    4: Breeding like rabbits? It was generations past that were churning out 9, 12, 16 kids regularly.i agree there , but years ago every one of them went out and earned a living and supported themselves
    5: Hardly the lefts fault, they're the ones that want to build social housing and not pass on the current crisis to private landlords.
    s


  • #58
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Deleted User wrote: »
    I'd say modern grammar is being ruined first ;)

    (Sorry, cheap dig!)


    qo6f6d.jpg

    :D


  • #59
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Jaxson Fresh Silver wrote: »
    But there are people who question hardline feminism yet do not want to keep women down.

    "Hardline feminism" is a classic example of the reality distortion effect of the echo chambers that are tiny, minuscule nether regions of the www like After Hours threads. After a while, people believe all that rubbish about it being a major issue, when in reality it's a bullshít recently invented non-issue which will never impact upon the daily life of the vast, vast majority of men.

    Still, always better for the plebs to be fighting about cost-free liberal "rights" than seeking more taxes- indeed, any taxes - on the rich to fund social services.


  • #60
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    qo6f6d.jpg

    :D

    I knew that was gonna happen :D hate when I end typing long messages on a phone :D

    Actually, it was only a misspelling of "Tjey", and an apostrophe missing from "left's" the others are grammatically sound :P


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  • #61
    Rjd2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,156 ✭✭✭✭Rjd2


    meeeeh wrote: »
    But it's not about society becoming more inclusive, it's two sides hurling insults at each other without even wanting to hear other sides argument. When insults like feminazi are thrown around, when anyone in anyway critical of liberal all accepting viewpoint tries to be silenced you know the world is going to hell. And those on left are just as responsible as those on the right.

    In a perfect world,,,I'd ban the following expressions

    Feminazi
    Snowflake
    SJW
    white privilege
    mansplaining

    I know not everyone who uses the above terms are bad people, but vast majority of time they are used to shut down and taunt those with opposing views rather than engage in meaningful discussion.


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