Your New WHS Index

decko11 wrote: »

Thanks Prawnsambo

Some of my unprocessed go back 2 years - any idea why the home club wouldnt process etc

Have they always been unprocessed? If that's the case, no idea. To my mind, it's almost impossible for that to happen. If it's recent, it's probably as I describe above; away club finds some issue with their own members for that comp and 'force' an update which resets your score to unprocessed. If your club didn't do a GolfNet update (while GolfNet was still alive) that unprocessed score will probably stay that way unless somebody at the away club or Golf Ireland fix it.

Edit: Just checked with the Golf Ireland updates and it seems that your h/sec can enter these away scores manually. A pain in the hole, but at least that's one way to fix them.

septicsac wrote: »

Ok, I have been six weeks on to my so called handicap secretary/committee, but for the love of all that is sacred I cannot get them to add 5 counting scores that were missed from my golfnet account to my golfireland scores. I have gone about it in the nice way and now at the stage where I do not want to meet them for fear of what will be said. I have asked them politely to forward this issue to the next stage, if they are unwilling to address same and to copy me in the correspondence(as I just do not trust them to deal with it) . The next stage is to raise it with the GUI Handicapping Convenor/Branch Office, which I have asked them to do and to copy me in same, but again nothing from them. Does anyone have a contact for the GUI Handicapping Convenor/Branch Office or know where same can be found?

I was in a situation were I switched clubs in late 2019, on golfnet all my old rounds were there & linked to my new gui number but on golf ireland only the 10 qualifying rounds in 2020 appeared which meant my handicap is based off my 3 best scores from 10 instead of 8 from 20.

I was onto our handicap sec & he got onto munster gui, he got the following back:

"Many clubs have been in touch wondering why some scores are missing from the system. As we mentioned last week, in arriving at the best possible estimation of a player’s WHS Index, we have used data from the old Golfnet system. In some cases the data on Golfnet was incomplete – scores were missing from players’ records. In other cases, we omitted scores that were on the Golfnet system because the data was unreliable and its use would have resulted in a less accurate calculation of WHS Indices.

It should be borne in mind that we have not tried to replicate each player’s old scoring record on the new system. We have used as many reliable scores as possible to arrive at the best possible estimate of the Indices. It is not expected that Club Officials will manually enter omitted historical scores into players’ records on the new platform. However, where the calculation of the Handicap Index isn’t quite right, you may wish to enter some historical scores to correct the Index. Alternatively, you can choose to simply apply a manual adjustment to the player’s record on the system."

So i'm just taking what I have & shur it'll even itself out over the next few months. my new handicap is 6.5 my old exact was 8.7

Kiith wrote: »

I'm in s similar situation. Was given a 6.8 handicap (down from 13.7), and it seemed to be based on a single score (my best) from the year. When i look at my scores on GolfIreland, it shows two scores, both from the blues, and only one of them was used in the handicap calculation. Got onto my club and they eventually changed it to 10.8, but it's still showing only the one score.

If it's 10.8, that's fine and i'll try and work with it, but surely they should be able to see that only two of my scores for the entire year are listed?

So is there just 5 or less cards showing on your WHS record?

briancoolcat wrote: »

Hi I have only 5 competition scores recorded on golf ireland for my new WHS handicap as I only joined my club this year. My handicap went from 24 to 20.6 as I had one good round shooting 18 over par. The other four rounds were 26 over par plus but we're not taken in to consideration for the new WHS. I am a late starter to golf and was wondering should I just be happy with that handicap or should I ask the handicap secretary to take a look at it as he knows my true handicap should be around the 24.

Play more golf

If you had a round that was 18 over I would have expected even lower handicap tbf

Kiith wrote: »

There's only two showing on mine, and only one is saying it was used in the calculation. That one score was my best ever score, and not really anything like most of the other scores i put it.



10.8 probably isn't that far off what i would be supposed to get i suppose, as i did have a few decent rounds in the previous 20 rounds. I'd just like to make sure of that.

6.8 was nowhere near my level though, so glad that's changed.

You can get your h/sec to enter your older scores. Golf Ireland have issued some guidance on doing this:

Entering Historical Scores:
Whilst we have mentioned before that populating a player’s record with past scores should not be treated as an exercise in trying to perfectly replicate the player’s scoring history, we do accept that some of you may wish to enter historical scores, particularly when the score will have a material effect on the player’s WHS Handicap Index.

Historical scores can be manually input using the “Scores” tab in the Clubhouse. If it is an away score, please be sure to enter the player’s name/number before then choosing the club/course where the score was recorded.

Some of you have asked whether it is possible to enter a PCC value for such a score. Unfortunately, the system will not permit this. However, as a workaround, you may choose to adjust the adjusted gross score to take account of the difference between SSS and CSS on the day in question.

So as not to completely bury him in work, you should probably put together your missing scores on a spreadsheet first with the date, course, tees and individual hole scores as well as your handicap at the time.

Kiith wrote: »

There's only two showing on mine, and only one is saying it was used in the calculation. That one score was my best ever score, and not really anything like most of the other scores i put it.



10.8 probably isn't that far off what i would be supposed to get i suppose, as i did have a few decent rounds in the previous 20 rounds. I'd just like to make sure of that.

6.8 was nowhere near my level though, so glad that's changed.

Am I going insane but your score difference for that round should be:

(83 - 71.1 - 1) * (113/129) = 9.5

AH got you

I personally dont think that adjustment should be made. The round happened and should be part of your record

gypsy79 wrote: »

AH got you

I personally dont think that adjustment should be made. The round happened and should be part of your record

In normal circumstances it would be one of 8 scores so in this case the +4 adjustment is appropriate imho.

prawnsambo wrote: »

Have they always been unprocessed? If that's the case, no idea. To my mind, it's almost impossible for that to happen. If it's recent, it's probably as I describe above; away club finds some issue with their own members for that comp and 'force' an update which resets your score to unprocessed. If your club didn't do a GolfNet update (while GolfNet was still alive) that unprocessed score will probably stay that way unless somebody at the away club or Golf Ireland fix it.

Edit: Just checked with the Golf Ireland updates and it seems that your h/sec can enter these away scores manually. A pain in the hole, but at least that's one way to fix them.

Yeah but then I am now meant to produce scorecards for 10 round going back 2 years... mad

On golf Ireland it's now saying whs 25 but how did I do is 23.9. I assume I go by golf Ireland??

You may have already seen it but Golf Ireland are now allowing you to see your handicap index online. This was previously only allowed via the golf Ireland website.

Glad they have seen the light.

J

Golfgraffix wrote: »

You may have already seen it but Golf Ireland are now allowing you to see your handicap index online. This was previously only allowed via the golf Ireland website.

Glad they have seen the light.

J

A big improvement. I can now see everyone's handicap index in the club.

Briefly last year I could also look in other clubs via the golf ireland app. Any idea when the app will be working again?

the long lad wrote: »

Where on the Golf Ireland site can you see other members' handicaps?

I can see all my club's members' HI on masterscoreboard.

Briefly on the Golf Ireland app you could see all members of all clubs. I hope that returns