AEW - All Elite Wrestling (Spoilers for Latest Show)

Monokne · 17-11-2019 1:04am

Jerichoholic wrote: »

If you're looking for exciting restholds that make no sense, watch the other company.

Nick hasn't wrestled a singles match since 2004, he's one of the best wrestlers on the planet. Fenix is easily top 5 in the world. It's AEW, there won't be a lame stupid finish, they'll be allowed to do whatever they want.

It's a big deal.

What? WHAT? Did you read what I said? Or just decide in your head I hated AEW & loved WWE because you disagreed with something I said?

Nowhere have I said anything about preferring WWE to AEW. Nowhere have I said I enjoy restholds. Nowhere have I said literally ANYTHING other than the Bucks-Lucha Brothers matches are spot heavy. Even the most ardent fan can recognise that is what they bring to the table, that's their specialty. There's a huge market for it. More power to them, and I mean that. I like vanilla, you can still like chocolate.

I watch Dynamite & NXT. Those are the best two wrestling shows on TV. There's a lot I like on each, and some I don't. I'm not crazy on guys who are so spot heavy there is little else to their match, nothing to allow me emotionally invest, no music between the lyrics - whether that be Lio Rush on NXT or the Lucha's on AEW.

Think before you post dude, Jesus.:eek:

Monokne · 17-11-2019 1:07am

Omackeral wrote: »

Kind of answering your own question to a degree IMO. It's interesting to see how they'll work without their partners. Only one base to work off as opposed to two, or even three. Can they carry off a different psychology? What way will things differ. Rey Fenix I've seen before in singles and he's a beast. Nick Jackson selling the leg last week was probably the first time he's done anything that's stood out character wise for me. What else can he offer.

I'm interested to see it anyway.

The Bucks match at the PPV was the best one I've seen. The selling was great. It was such a refreshing change of pace for them.

I understand what you mean. I would not have high hopes. The Lucha Brothers don't do much in the way of psychology. Listening to JR & others talk about how they are trying to get them to start using actual tags in their matches instead of just coming in and out at will, lucha style, is funny.

Jerichoholic · 17-11-2019 1:18am

Monokne wrote: »

What? WHAT? Did you read what I said? Or just decide in your head I hated AEW & loved WWE because you disagreed with something I said?

Nowhere have I said anything about preferring WWE to AEW. Nowhere have I said I enjoy restholds. Nowhere have I said literally ANYTHING other than the Bucks-Lucha Brothers matches are spot heavy. Even the most ardent fan can recognise that is what they bring to the table, that's their specialty. There's a huge market for it. More power to them, and I mean that. I like vanilla, you can still like chocolate.

I watch Dynamite & NXT. Those are the best two wrestling shows on TV. There's a lot I like on each, and some I don't. I'm not crazy on guys who are so spot heavy there is little else to their match, nothing to allow me emotionally invest, no music between the lyrics - whether that be Lio Rush on NXT or the Lucha's on AEW.

Think before you post dude, Jesus.:eek:

Jesus Christ almighty! LOL

Neil3030 · 17-11-2019 1:34am

That's how you do a post-ppv show.

200k bump in the viewers, and they gave them a number of reasons to tune in next week.

Jerichoholic · 17-11-2019 7:33am

Your post seemed a little condescending with this line is all.

We know what it is. Spot spot spot spot spot spot spot. If that's your taste it'll be fun

Apologies if I took you up wrong.

Chuck Noland · 17-11-2019 7:56am

Jerichoholic wrote: »

If you're looking for exciting restholds that make no sense, watch the other company.

Nick hasn't wrestled a singles match since 2004, he's one of the best wrestlers on the planet. Fenix is easily top 5 in the world. It's AEW, there won't be a lame stupid finish, they'll be allowed to do whatever they want.

It's a big deal.

Christ! Talk about OTT.

Omackeral · 17-11-2019 7:57am

Chuck Noland wrote: »

Christ! Talk about OTT.

That's a different company

Chuck Noland · 17-11-2019 7:58am

Omackeral wrote: »

That's a different company

Touché

Jerichoholic · 17-11-2019 8:45am

Chuck Noland wrote: »

Christ! Talk about OTT.

Why is it? He asked why people might be excited over it.

mdwexford · 17-11-2019 12:24pm

Where’s the best place to watch AEW?

super_furry · 17-11-2019 12:30pm

mdwexford wrote: »

Where’s the best place to watch AEW?

ITV4 show it on Friday nights.

ERG89 · 17-11-2019 3:33pm

Monokne wrote: »

Can I ask what the major curiousity in Fenix-Jackson is?

We've seen Bucks - Lucha's all summer.

If you did their interactions were easily a highlight of them. That's why people are excited about a match between them as crazy as that sounds.

beakerjoe · 17-11-2019 6:47pm

Its been a few weeks into AEW now and NXT going live and no katter what your taste, its fanastic for the fan.

Both delivering week in week out. Neither show is perfect but both deliver satisfaction week in week out.

NXT has stepped up a gear since going live. Their weekly show was stale for a while, well not stale but never anything myst see. Now its must see every week.

AEW is a refreshing change of pace. New talent, great production, the lack of a formula helps as it means the structure of their show is fresh. Theyve been doing most things right.

Do I like everything I do.... no..... but as a whole its a a much need alternative.

Its win win for the viewer and Im lapping it up. Ive probably enjoyed the in ring NXT has just a shade better but Ive loved the character development of AEW.

Monokne · 17-11-2019 7:44pm

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Your post seemed a little condescending with this line is all.

Apologies if I took you up wrong.

Not at all buddy. And I apologise if my retort seemed a little OTT

I recognise the talent these guys have. Just not my taste.

Monokne · 17-11-2019 7:44pm

beakerjoe wrote: »

Its been a few weeks into AEW now and NXT going live and no katter what your taste, its fanastic for the fan.

Both delivering week in week out. Neither show is perfect but both deliver satisfaction week in week out.

NXT has stepped up a gear since going live. Their weekly show was stale for a while, well not stale but never anything myst see. Now its must see every week.

AEW is a refreshing change of pace. New talent, great production, the lack of a formula helps as it means the structure of their show is fresh. Theyve been doing most things right.

Do I like everything I do.... no..... but as a whole its a a much need alternative.

Its win win for the viewer and Im lapping it up. Ive probably enjoyed the in ring NXT has just a shade better but Ive loved the character development of AEW.

I can't argue with much of this.

It is a great time to be a fan.

Agent Coulson · 18-11-2019 7:37am

Jerichoholic wrote: »

Your post seemed a little condescending with this line is all.

Apologies if I took you up wrong.

It read more than a little condescending to be fair.

ThePott · 18-11-2019 12:00pm

RIGHT! I've had enough, there's only one way to settle this!

Lithium93_ · 18-11-2019 7:09pm

https://twitter.com/AEWrestling/status/1196473473390063622

The #AEWDynamite scheduled for Wednesday, January 15th in Miami, Florida has gotten just a little bit bigger now as the event will be Officially Titled: BASH AT THE BEACH

Tickets go on sale THIS FRIDAY, November 22nd at Noon ET for AEW’s #BashAtTheBeach.
http://AEWTIX.com

Agent Coulson · 18-11-2019 7:20pm

Who is the 3rd Man!

Also don't WWE own that name?

The White Wolf · 18-11-2019 8:31pm

I think Cody said he somehow reclaimed most of the old WCW PPV names that WWE haven't utilised. War Games is the only one he couldn't that he wanted.

Loughc · 18-11-2019 8:35pm

The White Wolf wrote: »

I think Cody said he somehow reclaimed most of the old WCW PPV names that WWE haven't utilised. War Games is the only one he couldn't that he wanted.

How did he manage that?

johnnyryan89 · 18-11-2019 8:36pm

They better have the stage set up as a beach. Orange Cassidy making sand castles for the night.

The White Wolf · 18-11-2019 8:38pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wrestlingnews.co/aew-news/here-is-why-aew-can-use-the-bash-at-the-beach-name-and-a-list-of-other-wcw-names-that-could-be-used/amp/

Maybe not most. :pac:

johnnyryan89 · 18-11-2019 8:44pm

Battlebowl sounds interesting for a company that's big into tag team wrestling.

ThePott · 18-11-2019 9:09pm

There was a rumour going around that they might name a PPV; Blood and Guts

Pentecost · 18-11-2019 9:36pm

What's the weather like in Florida in January? Wouldn't have associated it with going to the beach but maybe it is pleasant all year round.

ERG89 · 18-11-2019 9:45pm

ThePott wrote: »

There was a rumour going around that they might name a PPV; Blood and Guts

Still not as cool as Impact naming a PPV Hard to Kill. That is simply a perfect name.

Monokne · 18-11-2019 10:59pm

Pentecost wrote: »

What's the weather like in Florida in January? Wouldn't have associated it with going to the beach but maybe it is pleasant all year round.

It is pleasant all year around. It's Florida!

You get rain as you do any time of year but it's still plenty warm, probably about 20 degrees.

Monokne · 18-11-2019 11:01pm

Loughc wrote: »

How did he manage that?

You have to constantly reapply to continue to own trademarks. Stuff slips through the cracks all the time.

Another problem WWE has - off topic now - is that they apply for trademarks for the wrestlers and in the application they claim the character name is not for any individual person, even though obviously it is. Sometimes they get rejected and they have to reapply with the permission of the performer. If they can't get that, they may lose a name. Billy Gunn, I believe, is one of those. Wrestled as Kip in TNA but eventually got the name back.

Neil3030 · 19-11-2019 12:54am

Pretty big developments on BTE this week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAaEeRpmxUM

J. Marston · 19-11-2019 1:07am

I very rarely watch the Being the Elite but if that is Justin Roberts gimmick on it, it's brilliant.

ThePott · 19-11-2019 1:27am

ERG89 wrote: »

Still not as cool as Impact naming a PPV Hard to Kill. That is simply a perfect name.

Meant to be a dig at WWE and Vince for saying that AEW was a Blood and Guts company and WWE were family entertainment or some nonsense.

raven136 · 19-11-2019 2:25am

BTE..Marty to save the day

Jerichoholic · 19-11-2019 3:04am

raven136 wrote: »

BTE..Marty to save the day

Yup. It's going to be so great

Neil3030 · 21-11-2019 12:53am

Save what day now?

21-11-2019 1:10am

Why are they using a PPV name from WCW?

A reminder that a company much bigger than AEW that had bottomless pockets, but is now defunct as it was bought out by the current-leaders in the wrestling world, is not exactly something you'd think you'd want fans to associate with AEW. :rolleyes:

Cody Rhodes, Jericho, Jim Ross, etc. all seem to be generally intelligent, sensible people. I don't know why they don't steer as far away from associating themselves with 'ye olden days' as possible. They're supposed to be a fresh, dynamic, new company. Digging up old names that WWE forgot to even bother keeping a trademark on seems like a dreadful idea to me.

Sirsok · 21-11-2019 1:39am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why are they using a PPV name from WCW?

A reminder that a company much bigger than AEW that had bottomless pockets, but is now defunct as it was bought out by the current-leaders in the wrestling world, is not exactly something you'd think you'd want fans to associate with AEW. :rolleyes:

Cody Rhodes, Jericho, Jim Ross, etc. all seem to be generally intelligent, sensible people. I don't know why they don't steer as far away from associating themselves with 'ye olden days' as possible. They're supposed to be a fresh, dynamic, new company. Digging up old names that WWE forgot to even bother keeping a trademark on seems like a dreadful idea to me.

Nostalgia in wrestling is massive. You yourself were in another thread talking about wrestling figures of days gone, after watching a show about wrestling figures ( I myself collect and enjoyed that show immensely). The games, he'll the network, based around wrestling fans, love for old wrestling.

They can have a old relatable name and still create something new with it, unique and special with it.

Cherry_Cola · 21-11-2019 1:46am

The names Cody has gotten the trademarks to are Dusty's creations, so there's that aspect too.

Neil3030 · 21-11-2019 2:11am

Excalibur is so god awful, they need to axe him.

Just roars out move names like a total mark.

Any time he has to actually contribute to the story telling he can barely put a sentence together.

Agent Coulson · 21-11-2019 2:18am

What a match that was.

randomspud · 21-11-2019 2:20am

Neil3030 wrote: »

Excalibur is so god awful, they need to axe him.

Just roars out move names like a total mark.

Any time he has to actually contribute to the story telling he can barely put a sentence together.

What a remarkably bad take.

He's one of the best in the business at the moment.

Agent Coulson · 21-11-2019 2:35am

I liked that Dark Order Vignette

Agent Coulson · 21-11-2019 3:08am

Jericho and SCU are gold.

Agent Coulson · 21-11-2019 3:12am

The tease of Luchasaurus and Hager is great.

Neil3030 · 21-11-2019 3:19am

Luchasaurus just makes me happy.

Neil3030 · 21-11-2019 3:58am

Tonight is the best I've heard JR in probably decades.

Great main event too.

Agent Coulson · 21-11-2019 4:12am

Allin has IT however By God he will kill himself in the ring.

Neil3030 · 21-11-2019 4:56am

It was a great match; at no point did you really think the 170lb guy had any chance of winning, but he still got over. Comms did a great job in that regard, selling his courage, endurance, etc.

rizzla · 21-11-2019 8:11am

Watching the show now. Jericho walking backstage, stops at the librarian reading dinosaur books. He says how bad dinosaurs are and that they suck, what foreshadowing.

Neil3030 · 21-11-2019 8:22am

Hope they put that segment online, it was mostly playing in the background for me during a commercial

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AEW - All Elite Wrestling (Spoilers for Latest Show)