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04-04-2020, 08:49   #556
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I don't think this game was ever intended for release on PS4.

It has been pushed back twice or three times already and I'd say they always intended to delay the game beyond its May 29th release anyway.

Sony want this as a PS5 launch title.
A game like this costs so much money to make, they couldn't afford to skip the PS4 with it's 90m install base.

Launch games don't make a lot of money. In the first 6 months of a new console there are usually less than 10 million hardware owners, it limits your potential sales.

It's why we never really see any "killer" system-exclusive launch titles any more. It's mostly cross-gen stuff for the first year (or two!) of a console, or cheap-to-make titles. It's totally different from the old days when games were quick/cheap to make and killer launch titles were viable & common.
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04-04-2020, 08:56   #557
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And even though the ps4 version should work on ps5, i can see a separate ps5 version with extra bells and whistles.
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A game like this costs so much money to make, they couldn't afford to skip the PS4 with it's 90m install base.

Launch games don't make a lot of money. In the first 6 months of a new console there are usually less than 10 million hardware owners, it limits your potential sales.

It's why we never really see any "killer" system-exclusive launch titles any more. It's mostly cross-gen stuff for the first year (or two!) of a console, or cheap-to-make titles. It's totally different from the old days when games were quick/cheap to make and killer launch titles were viable & common.
Infamous 4 on PS4 was a pretty big launch title
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Infamous 4 on PS4 was a pretty big launch title
Wasn't a launch title. Came out in March, 4 months after PS4 launch.

PS4 had very few decent launch title exclusives. I spent most of the time on PS4 playing AC: Black Flag & Madden until proper games started to come out post-Xmas.

TLOU2 was definitely never planned to just be for PS5. Like the first game, in many ways it's acting as the console's swansong. They'll definitely release it on PS4 and that was always the plan. They wouldn't have said otherwise, put out release dates and then fake delays.

It'll be playable on PS5, both through backwards compatibility and maybe an enhanced GOTY edition after a year or so. But it's coming to PS4 regardless.

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Infamous 4 on PS4 was a pretty big launch title
There will be exceptions of course. But if you look at PS4 games released in 2013/2014, most of them are cross-gen titles or (reasonably) short-development titles. The really good stuff came later.

I expect PS5 launch line-up to be similar, a lot of cross-gen stuff and remasters.

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And even though the ps4 version should work on ps5, i can see a separate ps5 version with extra bells and whistles.
Yeah, it will be interesting to see how they handle cross-gen titles ... do they offer a free enhancement patch, do they sell a dedicated PS5 version which is better than the enchanced PS4 version etc.

These kind of details I think we'd all like more info on.

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05-04-2020, 00:17   #561
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PS blogcast has Neil talk about the delay.

https://m.soundcloud.com/playstation...ternally-yours
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PS blogcast has Neil talk about the delay.

https://m.soundcloud.com/playstation...ternally-yours
Its strange that he says no decision has been made yet on a digital release. The lack of a release date means I think they might put it out to retail on relatively short notice when the opportunity comes. I don't think many retail games will release on time for the forseeable future mind you.
I guess they know a 100+GB download from a digital only release with the current PSN speeds will lead to issues with the network in a time where its already under pressure.
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Its strange that he says no decision has been made yet on a digital release. The lack of a release date means I think they might put it out to retail on relatively short notice when the opportunity comes. I don't think many retail games will release on time for the forseeable future mind you.
I guess they know a 100+GB download from a digital only release with the current PSN speeds will lead to issues with the network in a time where its already under pressure.
Relatively short notice surely means a month wouldn't it? The worst with this and no release date will be the rumours from sources in production or shipping, it'll be non stop for a while with lots of cockteasing from the various usual places
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Completely sensible post
I was leaning towards the 'just release it digitally' route, but now I'm firmly in the altogether release route!
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27-04-2020, 08:40   #565
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Apparently some very spoilery stuff was leaked. Careful what you're clicking into.

https://twitter.com/SavedYouAClickV/...915489282?s=19
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Yep, I heard there are spoiler videos leaking and it's really bad. Probably need to avoid Youtube. There is a particular channel that puts spoiler pictures in the thumbnail.
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Full story of the game is out there

https://twitter.com/SMetaldave64/sta...746033153?s=20
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That sucks. A dispute with ND is no reason to leak spoilers, because the ones that'll most affected will be the people looking forward to the game who see spoilers accidentally (Youtube thumbnails or twitter clickbait tweets etc). Everyone who would have been buying the game are still going to buy it regardless of the leaks.

I think a lot of the time people can be a bit too precious about spoilers anyway, as knowing what happens comes secondary to seeing how it happens, in terms of performance, writing, being engrossed in what you're seeing/playing etc. But it's still always nice to not know and experience it as blind as possible.

Really hope people show some restraint with spreading the leaks. If people want to check them out, that's their perogative. But not everyone does.
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I checked reddit as usually the big games are heavily modded. Jesus what a ****. The titles are either spoilers or ND hate. I'm just going to think of it as trolls and not believe anything i saw. For this to come out and the game but even have a release date sucks.
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Leaking a bunch of stuff over a payment dispute is a great way to get sued and never work anywhere again. Juvenile stuff.
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