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13-03-2010, 17:43   #31
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Just a small update regarding safety on this. It only relates to high voltage mods and the possible dangers of the batteries. Some mods use unprotected lithium batteries and there have been some cases of these exploding mainly from what I can tell down to misuse or lack of understanding of general safety with lithium batteries.

I actually have a 6V mod which only takes 2 unprotected 3V batteries and I have decided not to use them anymore just as a precaution and because I have another mod that uses 2 3V protected batteries. The dangers are mainly from using the wrong charger or a short-circuit because of a damaged attomizer. There is no guarantee with a protected battery but it's much safer.

Stuff like the Screwdriver is safer because it only uses one battery. The 2 battery mods are the main issues. Most of the standard batteries that come with e-cigs have built in circuitry to protect against short-circuit etc.

I'm no expert on these batteries so I'm choosing to stick to protected batteries or standard e-cig batteries. If anyone wants something a little more powerful I would recommend you ensure what you are buying uses protected batteries.

Exploding batteries sounds dramatic (it can happen with laptops) but it's worth being aware of the possibility. I expect down the line all of this tech will be built with these dangers in mind.
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hi mewso, did you recieve the 510 you ordered for your friend from vapourstore? how did it work out? im thinking of getting one to try as its got to be better than the 20 a day im currently on...,i've been researching around as to which cig to buy and im suffering from information overload! so many suppliers and different models!
Has anyone any recomendations on which e juice to go for I currently smoke marlboro lights.
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I got the 510 for my mate from Vaporstation.co.uk He wasn't a strong smoker just had a few when out drinking. He says hes using the e-cig instead now but I don't know if he is still using it as I know him from work not socially.

You could order it from http://www.thevapourstore.ie/ since you'll get it fast. Not the cheapest but the closest. If you don't care how long it takes try any of the UK sites selling it cheap. The other option now is the eGo/Tornado sold on Totally-Wicked. It's a 510 with a fancy battery that lasts all day. Quite good.

When you order it you get 5 tobacco flavour cartridges so you can try that out. It's nothing like smoking tobacco as it's got a sweet aftertaste but I kind of like the bog standard tobacco flavour if I'm being honest. You could order a bottle of menthol too so you can try that out along with some blank cartridges. I didn't find the Marlb much different to the Tobacco. The Hilton is less sweet and I like it. RY4 is hugely popular but very sweet imo. The flavours with any kind of sweet aftertaste can get too much after a while so I like to have something like Hilton to switch to.

If you don't like Tobacco/Menthol as was said above the OK Smokey Drum/Old Holburn stuff is very good. I'm currently trying their Golden Virginia and it's very good too. I used to roll it and the taste is pretty similiar.

You can't find your favorite flavours without trying a few I'm afraid but it's fun trying particularly if you are off the real thing. Try it once anyway. You've nothing to lose. If you use the vapour store they have a discount code, ecf10, for a 10% discount.
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nearly went blind reading forums and reviews on all the different types of stuff out there , well I just went ahead and ordered a stasis 901 (mini) and a few different jucies from vapourstation. should have it after the weekend..will see then what its all about,,


interesting artical here http://pr-usa.net/index.php?option=c...6683&Itemid=95

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Actually found them absolutely useless....no 'kick' at all from the 5mg and a cough afterwards....different from tobacco cough
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Actually found them absolutely useless....no 'kick' at all from the 5mg and a cough afterwards....different from tobacco cough
What model did you buy Freiheit? I would highly recommend starting on a high level of nicotine (16mg to 18mg). Anything less and flavour, dodgy device and so on will give too little of a hit to a smoker. Once you are up and running and you settle on a good strong flavour you like on a device that works for you then you can start to think about dropping the nicotine content. That would be my advice anyway. The 901, for example, wasn't a great hit for me but it was enough to see the potential and when I read reviews saying the hit on a 510 was superior I gave it a try and it was a better hit than the 901. The 901 tends to get recommended for beginners but I think it's stong point is the flavours tend to come accross better something that is not as important to me. I want a good throat hit like I'm smoking the real thing. The 510 did it for me.

The other thing to watch out for is the attomiser is essentially a disposable part and as such it's hit or miss that some you get might simply not work properly. Some vendors will replace them. If a few puffs doesn't produce some good vapour then you may be looking at a poor attomiser. It's an unfortunate issue with all this mass produced chinese stuff and if a beginner trys a faulty attomiser that could be that. They dismiss something that may have worked for them if all the parts were working properly.

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mewso, thanks for the info; it's an interesting thread. I tried an eCig before, but it was a crappy chinese one from dealextreme, so I'm not surprised it didn't work too well. I've ordered the 510 titan this evening to see what it's like.
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Thanks for the info on battery mods mewso. I dont think i'd have the patience to go down that route anyway but worth knowing that there could be risks involved.

Anyway I said I'd give an update, this will be brief enough as busy atm but I'd though I need to give a short initial update as I have the 510 for almost 2 weeks now.

When I first received it I made the silly mistake of not clearing the atomizer fully of primer so my introduction sort of resembled a watery eyed 'holy christ I'd rather stick my head up the chimney', sort of response to the first drag, but when it cleared, I could see that this had some potential but still felt I was a long way off substituting this for my daily Golden Virginia stash. I made the mistake of only ordering the tobacco flavour eliquid from vapourstore and it just didn't hit the spot.
It tasted similar to tasting your most detested brand (Marlboro red!) but I could at least acknowledge that this was much nearer to smoking than patches or gum could ever get. Good vapour and throat hit but still felt I needed more, something was missing.

Right then went off and decided to get the 'screwdriver' and also a supply of various tobacco like flavours from oksmokey, I knew if I was going to give this a good crack then I was going to need to get it as close to the real experience and vape a flavour that I could enjoy and not have to be messing charging batteries every couple hrs and so on!
Stopped using the 510 and went back to the usual method until everything arrived.

On Monday of this week (4 days ago) I went to setting up the perfect ecig. The screwdriver arrived with 2nd free which I see now is very handy as I can have two long life battery ecigs, each with a different flavour on the go at the same time. The golden virginia and drum flavours from oksmokey were definitely more in my league (thanks to Fstop for the info).
Also I find that the screwdriver definitely gives a more consistent vapour and throat hit than I ever received with the bundled battery.
So over the past few days I have been getting used to the set up and preparation of the thing without putting myself under extreme pressure to quit analogs.
I've kindof mastered not flooding atomizers and getting exactly the right amount of drops to 'top up', as well as rotating flavours to get a feel for them...agree mewso RY4 and golden virginia flavours are lovely!

Anyway the verdict so far...I cant say that I'm a total convert that just picked up an ecig and immediately kissed goodbye to the analogs. I have in the past 4 days cut down to around 5 analogs from my usual 15 or so without even thinking about it, so that's a good start. I have to add that the intention is to let it progress slowly without pressure until I'm perfectly used to the ecig so I really don't know how it will go over the next few months or so.

I will say this: i've tried the patches and gum, zyban etc at various times and nothing worked, with zyban I didnt feel like a cig but the side effects got the better of me and stopped and eventually went back on the fags.
With patches and gum, yes they gave me my nicotine dose but I always felt like I was hanging for a fag and eventually went back to what I enjoyed.

With the ecig It feels so much like smoking; you get the throat hit (very important for me!); you get the flavour of something very near to tobacco (also very important); you get the vapour exhale (not so important to me but mimics smoking almost exactly). It is as near to the real thing as I can get even though there's still some subtle differences missing, but nothing too extreme. It can be approached almost like changing your brand of cigarette. Its going to take time to get used to but it should hopefully be fairly seamless in the end.

Right I will keep ye updated and hopefully others that are trying them or about to attempt them will keep us informed as to how things are going. I will just say to people about to attempt them that It worth persisting with it until you find a setup that works for you. My initial thoughts were that there is so much messing about with stuff that the vast majority will give up and bin it before they hit a sweet spot. That is such a pity because it has amazing potential when you get it all working the way you want it to work.

I'm sure the next generation and beyond ecig will start to improve on the flaws and shortfalls of the current ones. It will be great when someone who wants to try it out can buy one cheaply that comes complete with a battery that lasts several days, an indestructible unfloodable atomizer, carts that need to be topped up once a day only and an experience with consistent flavour, vapour and throat hit.

I have to also say cheers again to Mewso because if it wasnt for this thread then I would probably never have given what I thought was just another gimic a second glance.

Best of luck all and happy vaping

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great post cougar! good luck with it..what website did you buy the screwdriver from and how often does it need charging?
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Screwdriver - http://www.cavecom.com/screwdriver/shop/shopindex.htm

The buy 1 get 1 free offer is finished but I see they have a second body included in the full kit which is great for beginners as they will need the whole kit anyway.

The Tornado - http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.co....2-product.html

I think the Tornado is on a par with the Screwdriver and I prefer the button position but it might work out a tad dearer in terms of the batteries and replacing them down the line. Totally Wicked also do the Screwdrive Mark II but I don't think they have any offers on it.
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Just an update. heading for an 8th day off the cigs (20 a day) and lovin it, no cravings to speak of, few little problems at the start but once i got used to it it was fine, even went out to the pub twice and I was fine,currently using the 901 and i also ordered the screwdriver (+ 1 free) and some other spare bits and pieces,and some liquid and flavour for diy, wel see how that works out, currently on 10mg but will try to cut that down over time, a bit of money invested to start with but i should be ok for supplies for a couple of months, I feel so much better without (analogs), thats what us vapers call cigs.
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Just an update. heading for an 8th day off the cigs (20 a day) and lovin it, no cravings to speak of, few little problems at the start but once i got used to it it was fine, even went out to the pub twice and I was fine,currently using the 901 and i also ordered the screwdriver (+ 1 free) and some other spare bits and pieces,and some liquid and flavour for diy, wel see how that works out, currently on 10mg but will try to cut that down over time, a bit of money invested to start with but i should be ok for supplies for a couple of months, I feel so much better without (analogs), thats what us vapers call cigs.
Thats brilliant sohappy glad you are getting on well, twas worth the risk You are doing exceptionally well if you are managing fine on 10mg already fair play. Keep it going.

Not so superb update here but still happy, I'm continuing on about 3 analogs a day from my original 15-20 a day. So I'm doing very well and happy with the cutdown but still a little perplexed that I have the compulsion to hang on to those oh so hard to knock after meals fags. They dont even bother me that much, its mainly the morning fag that I'm having real trouble with. I guess everybody is different. I'm going to need a little more willpower methinks or possibly a little higher mg content. Currently on 18mg. I still sing vapings praises though, its a fantastic way to attempt giving up.

Mewso or anybody else, quick question; have you ordered any of the Totally Wicked eliquids and what do you think of them? Particularly the menthols flavours or some of their tobacco flavours?
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Mewso or anybody else, quick question; have you ordered any of the Totally Wicked eliquids and what do you think of them? Particularly the menthols flavours or some of their tobacco flavours?
I have tried their Hilton and Tobacco and I like them but they seem pretty standard. I haven't tried their Decadent Vapour range as it seems overpriced to me. They have just started doing a line of low resistance 510 atomisers which means with a standard battery you will get something similar to a high 5V+ experience with the lifespan of the atomiser being the trade-off going by reports. I only mention it because it improve the kick for you if you are looking for that little extra. I've ordered a couple so I'll let you know how I find them. Finally try dripping as an alternative to cartridges too as another possible extra kick.
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Was reading the past 3 pages and went looking on all the sites as i would really like to try the e-ciggie, but now i am totally confused as to which site to buy from, what kit to get, if you get, say the 901 can you only use the cartridges (i mean the nicotine) for the 901 or can you use any. Which in your opinion is the best kit to get, so that after about a week i will not be swapping over for a different kit. I smoke 30 fags a day, B and H so i would like something with a good throat kick.

I get very easily confused when im looking at all the starter packs and really have no idea which one would suit, or which company to go with. I would really appreciate your feedback. Also, are they hard to use, as reading your comments it seems like there is a lot involved into getting them set up and running.

Thanks folks any help would be appreciated.
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Personally I would get the 510 model buts it's difficult be certain about the best model for each individual. I went into this prepared to try one or two models at least to see what suits. I prefer the 510 as I found the feeling in my throat closer to the real thing and most importantly I much prefer the manual button to the automatic. Takes a little bit fo getting used to but you can control how long of a pull you want wheras the auto has a cut-out of about 5-6 seconds I think. As to where to buy well no harm in going Irish:-

http://www.thevapourstore.ie - only problem is they only have white models at the moment. If you are happy with white you'll have it the next day.

Failing that there are a few excellent UK sites I would recommend:-

liberty-flights - an excellent site and the owner posts on http://ukvapers.com so I can get a hold of him easy enough if I want but the customer service is excellent in general anyway. Unfortunately they are out of stock for the 510 so next option would be...

The list of UK suppliers on UKVapers - sites I have used are Totally Wicked, E-Cigs, VapourStation but most on the list are known by the forum so safe enough. Look for a good price. If you decide to go with Totally Wicked then consider the Tornado. It's a 510 with a much better battery and I like it. The OKSmokey liquid is great but I didn't have a good experience with their 510 so I can't recommend it I'm afraid.

Really I'm afraid you just have to dive in, watch some videos on how best to use them or ask here about it when you have a model and so on. It's certainly worth 30-50 euro to see if it will work imo.

To sum up:-

The 510 is the best throat kick imo.
901 Cartridges fit in 510 attomisers but 510 cartridges don't fit in 901s. Either way if you get a bottle of liquid you can drip some into an already used cart of any type. The liquid is all the same regardless of model.
Are they hard to use? - a bit finnicky but nothing thats going to stop you if it works for you in terms of stopping smoking.
Don't be afraid to try more than one model. Use the first model to see if it's got potential for you. If it doesn absolutely nothing for you then fair enough. If it works for you great. If it's almost but not quite then maybe try a different model - 901, cartomiser (the two piece which I haven't tried but is supposed to be good for throat hit) or try different liquids and strengths (I personally have settled on 18mg which is consider medium to high).
The cartridges you get with a starter kit normally come with basic tobacco flavour which has a mildly sweet taste so if you want to get a bottle with your order maybe get something like Hilton which lacks the sweet taste so you can compare or even menthol. I never smoked menthol but the liquid does give a great throat hit imo.

See I've written a lot more than I intended. It really is hard to pin it down

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