Woman sues Dunnes Stores over glass jug which shattered after she poured hot water in

kildare lad · 13-12-2019 6:04pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

My dad bought a step ladder a while back. It had so many warnings on it, it was one step below saying do not stand on this step ladder.

Sure packets of peanuts nowadays say " may contain nuts" on them .

enricoh · 13-12-2019 6:06pm

This week the main insurer of creches in Ireland has packed it in. No doubt premiums and childcare costs will rise a result.
The likes of this parasite and ivory tower judge are the reason insurers are legging it outta here.
56k should inspire plenty more claimants to chance their arm!

Spanish Eyes · 13-12-2019 6:12pm

Twas the Vodka that went in to jug before the tea was the problem ( Jugs of Vodka.... nice for some lol).

Cover the medical expenses and a thousand or so for inconvenience and travel and that's that. IMV.

I also wonder where the compo figures come from. But fair play to Dunnes for taking it to court and not settling on the steps.

We are doomed with this type of thing, and despite everything it is not receding at all from what I can see.

TRIBUNAL!

Lord Fairlord · 13-12-2019 6:14pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

In fairness i remember everyone gave the lady who was burned by coffee in MC DONALDS a hard time.

But this was what happened to her.

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Her name was Stella Liebeck and she was 79 ...they found Mc Donalds kept their coffee way hotter than safety regulations allow.

But everyone just laughed. It wasnt funny .

People shouldn't judge until they have the facts.

Unless the claiment is a member of FG.

She put the coffee (which is a hot beverage) between her legs which was an insanely stupid thing to do. Even if the coffee had been a few degrees cooler, one would need to remove any clothing against the skin that was affected after spilling a hot drink immediately; the clothing would hold the hot liquid against the skin.

Raconteuse · 13-12-2019 6:17pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

In fairness i remember everyone gave the lady who was burned by coffee in MC DONALDS a hard time.

But this was what happened to her.

https://media.makeameme.org/created/in-their-latest.jpg

Her name was Stella Liebeck and she was 79 ...they found Mc Donalds kept their coffee way hotter than safety regulations allow.

But everyone just laughed. It wasnt funny .

People shouldn't judge until they have the facts.

Unless the claiment is a member of FG.

Both she and McDonalds were at fault though - McDs for the water being hotter than the regulations stipulate; the lady for putting the coffee cup between her thighs when sitting in the car and taking the lid off. I mean you just don't do that with a very hot drink in a plastic or cardboard or Styrofoam container.

Spanish Eyes · 13-12-2019 6:23pm

Let's get back to the jug bought in Dunnes FGS and the amount paid out and why.

spurious · 13-12-2019 6:26pm

Another triumph for the ethical solicitors club.

Eggs For Dinner · 13-12-2019 6:26pm

By the time you add in legal fees, you're looking at €75k. This is why insurers often throw €10k at cases like this to make them go away.

The potential rewards are too tempting, will little downside for a failed claim

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 13-12-2019 6:32pm

Do people not pour boiling water into glasses ever? I know I have, when making Lemsip or hot whiskeys or whatever. I wouldn’t be suing of course.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 13-12-2019 6:34pm

Raconteuse wrote: »

Both she and McDonalds were at fault though - McDs for the water being hotter than the regulations stipulate; the lady for putting the coffee cup between her thighs when sitting in the car and taking the lid off. I mean you just don't do that with a very hot drink in a plastic or cardboard or Styrofoam container.

She accepted a portion of the blame though. Her part in it was acknowledged.

Spanish Eyes · 13-12-2019 6:40pm

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Do people not pour boiling water into glasses ever? I know I have, when making Lemsip or hot whiskeys or whatever. I wouldn’t be suing of course.

Not boiling water, just quite hot water, and as for hot whiskey, well once you put a metal spoon in there it's all good. Never had any glass shatter on me, let alone a jug in all my years, unless they jumped out of the dishwasher without me seeing

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 13-12-2019 6:45pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Not boiling water, just quite hot water, and as for hot whiskey, well once you put a metal spoon in there it's all good. Never had any glass shatter on me, let alone a jug in all my years, unless they jumped out of the dishwasher without me seeing

Aye. I usually put a spoon in but not always. Glasses can take boiling water in my experience.

TheValeyard · 13-12-2019 6:52pm

And here's me working like a fool.

Montage of Feck · 13-12-2019 6:53pm

The judiciary is a disgrace.

893bet · 13-12-2019 6:59pm

A ****ing disgrace.

The judges are ****ing at it.

whiskeyman · 13-12-2019 7:04pm

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Hot-tea alert!!

Naos · 13-12-2019 7:05pm

Article wrote:

Mr Justice Cross said making tea in a glass jug was not an Irish custom, but it is a custom in other parts of the EU.

The judge said he accepted that in Slovakia, which is Ms Cekanova’s home country and in parts of Eastern Europe it is the custom to make tea in a glass jug.

Does this mean if an Irish person had of made the exact same claim, then he would have thrown it out of court?

Article wrote:

The cultural certainties, he said of an Ireland of “sturdy youths and maidens dancing at the crossroads” is no longer applicable to this country.

Also WTF is this about.

Spanish Eyes · 13-12-2019 7:13pm

I hope she buys a proper heat proof jug with her settlement now.

Seems to me it depends on the judge on the day really.

There should be a table of compo and get on with it. Less is more. Most people are annoyed with this type of claim. But what can we do?

Bet there will be lots of Vodka Tea in a jug tonight.

The Satanist · 13-12-2019 7:19pm

56k.... ****in hell

Atlantic Dawn · 13-12-2019 7:21pm

Soon you will need a warning on doors out of buildings to say rain might fall on you.

13-12-2019 7:21pm

Once upon a time you'd need a neck like a jockey's b*llocks to take such a case to court.

Nowadays you'd be a fool not to.

spurious · 13-12-2019 7:57pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

There should be a table of compo and get on with it. Less is more. Most people are annoyed with this type of claim. But what can we do?

It would not apply in this case, but they could start with fining any chancer solicitors who aid and abet fraudulent claims.

Spanish Eyes · 13-12-2019 8:04pm

spurious wrote: »

It would not apply in this case, but they could start with fining any chancer solicitors who aid and abet fraudulent claims.

Why would it not apply in this case, is it because of current regs and so on?

The judges in Court should be well able to suss out chancer solicitors now. Really.

Closed shop to me it seems, despite the odd dismissal twice a year to keep us thinking the judiciary are onto it. They are not in the main IMV.

And we are here with open jaws looking at a woman who put boiling water in a jug and got 50k.

OK.

whisky_galore · 13-12-2019 8:26pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

TL/DR? Don't blame the chancer, blame the enabler.

How about blame both?

whisky_galore · 13-12-2019 8:34pm

whiskeyman wrote: »

Hot-tea alert!!

Tea-leaf???

Username you choose · 13-12-2019 9:08pm

I wouldn't be surprised if her and her husband have previous claims paid out. I know of a couple who had three payouts totally €70,000 for whiplash...

holyhead · 13-12-2019 10:23pm

The fact that this lawsuit made it to court is truly depressing. Anybody with a percent of kop on knows not to pour hot water into a glass jug without at least putting a spoon in. The fact that this made it to court is a damning indictment of our legal system. This case was a waste of everybody's time except the litigant. The fact that the litigant won is frightening. Shame on the judge. Case should have been thrown out and the litigant fined for wasting court time.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 13-12-2019 10:52pm

The government need to get rid of idiot judges like Cross. He is very obviously so far removed from reality that he’s lost the run of himself.

A fair judge may have awarded 5k which would have been more than enough money to give to a complete idiot who through her own stupidity injured herself badly.

I hope Dunnes appeal the award and get a judge who has some semblance of intelligence and fairness which Judge Cross is quite clearly totally devoid of.

joeysoap · 13-12-2019 10:55pm

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

Even if dunnes sold a faulty jug.. 56k is just fecking silly. Where do they get these numbers from

Nobody said it was faulty, which makes even worse.a

Added: she claimed it was defective.

moceri · 14-12-2019 2:40am

Montage of Feck wrote: »

The judiciary is a disgrace.

Kevin Cross.. A FG appointee never fails to disappoint at the breath taking pay-outs he awards. It would not surprise me if he is secreting a Bong in his chambers.

ebbsy · 14-12-2019 2:42am

Them lot are an expert at this.

FGR · 14-12-2019 2:55am

moceri wrote: »

Kevin Cross.. A FG appointee never fails to disappoint at the breath taking pay-outs he awards. It would not surprise me if he is secreting a Bong in his chambers.

It’s funny when across the hall High Court Judge Twomey is going the other extreme awarding meagre sums to Gardaí who have been badly injured by way of assaults or otherwise in the course of their duties.

Do judges see the book of quantum and just decide they’ll ignore it completely and under/over award accordingly ?

14-12-2019 3:11am

whisky_galore wrote: »

How about blame both?

Because again, without sounding like I sympathise or agree, it's hardly your one's fault that the courts have ruled you can pick up two years salary for breaking a glass. It's not as if she's writing her own cheque here or anything, the case was presented and argued by (presumably) competent and experienced legal counsel for both sides. The court made its decision based on the law of the land, I don't like it, you don't like it, and like it or not there's technically no wrong doing on the part of the claimant.

Of course I think it sucks, ultimately the cost just gets passed from the insurer to the business to the customer, but if people simply prefer to gripe about it online instead of forcing it to be an election issue next time your TD comes knocking on your door looking for "the aul number one" then you can like it or lump it.

BeerWolf · 14-12-2019 5:46am

**** this Judge. What's next, warning labels to not inhale water while drinking from a mug? To not put food straight into the mouth just out of the oven? Will the Government start a new social scheme of hand holding while one baths to ensure retards don't drown in 1cm of water?

The rapid downfall of people being responsible for themselves, for readily available handouts, is ****ing disgusting in this country...

s7ryf3925pivug · 14-12-2019 6:02am

when in Rome commence frivolous lawsuits to win lots of money.

Sleeper12 · 14-12-2019 6:49am

My daughter has never drank tea or coffee in her life. She's had very little reason to boil water in her life. During the boil water notice I found her pouring boiling water into a glass to cool. She's in her 20s and she's not stupid. She just was never told.

The suing part is stupid alright

suicide_circus · 14-12-2019 7:06am

Sleeper12 wrote: »

My daughter has never drank tea or coffee in her life. She's had very little reason to boil water in her life. During the boil water notice I found her pouring boiling water into a glass to cool. She's in her 20s and she's not stupid. She just was never told.

The suing part is stupid alright

the award is also preposterous. 56 grand.

Pinch Flat · 14-12-2019 8:37am

She’s taken Dunnes as mugs...

suicide_circus · 14-12-2019 9:10am

i think the judges get off on the power of awarding the big payouts. there is no other explanation for it, its certainly nothing to do with proportionality or natural justice.

rafatoni · 14-12-2019 9:12am

The word is out across the EU, they give great social welfare and ya do f all or fall and get 60k.

Treasure Ireland is right. Yad get fu** all ik eastern european countries.

Woke Hogan · 14-12-2019 9:22am

rafatoni wrote: »

The word is out across the EU, they give great social welfare and ya do f all or fall and get 60k.

Treasure Ireland is right. Yad get fu** all ik eastern european countries.

You need to stop foaming at the mouth, it's dripping all over your keyboard.

rafatoni · 14-12-2019 9:35am

Woke Hogan wrote: »

You need to stop foaming at the mouth, it's dripping all over your keyboard.

Head in the sand stuff there. Lol

tabby aspreme · 14-12-2019 9:43am

Woke Hogan wrote: »

You need to stop foaming at the mouth, it's dripping all over your keyboard.

People are angry and are right to be, especially those involved in small businesses, sports, and voluntary organisations, the likes of these payouts make it more difficult for them to get insurance to continue what they do, of course others, who have a limited knowledge of how things work, think it's ok it's the insurance companies money

Woke Hogan · 14-12-2019 9:49am

tabby aspreme wrote: »

People are angry and are right to be, especially those involved in small businesses, sports, and voluntary organisations, the likes of these payouts make it more difficult for them to get insurance to continue what they do, of course others, who have a limited knowledge of how things work, think it's ok it's the insurance companies money

"People are angry" so it's alright to make out that there was some sort of bulletin across Eastern Europe that "Treasure Ireland" is there for the taking. I don't believe that you can just make **** up, even if "people are angry."

rafatoni · 14-12-2019 10:04am

Woke Hogan wrote: »

"People are angry" so it's alright to make out that there was some sort of bulletin across Eastern Europe that "Treasure Ireland" is there for the taking. I don't believe that you can just make **** up, even if "people are angry."

calm down woke you will give yourself a coronary.

Woke Hogan · 14-12-2019 10:07am

rafatoni wrote: »

calm down woke you will give yourself a coronary.

People are angry.

whisky_galore · 14-12-2019 10:09am

Woke Hogan wrote: »

"People are angry" so it's alright to make out that there was some sort of bulletin across Eastern Europe that "Treasure Ireland" is there for the taking. I don't believe that you can just make **** up, even if "people are angry."

People can read news reports like this from Ireland, they're not fücking stupid or illiterate.

The compensation claim culture here is at comical levels.

eagle eye · 14-12-2019 10:14am

This doesn't seem as off the wall as a lot of cases. I don't have a big problem, with this, people are stupid. There should be documentation stating not to put water over a certain temperature in the glass.

punisher5112 · 14-12-2019 10:17am

Bubble wrap sales to go through the roof.....

Stupid people win stupid prizes well in this case stupid came out on top......

easypazz · 14-12-2019 10:33am

Woke Hogan wrote: »

"People are angry" so it's alright to make out that there was some sort of bulletin across Eastern Europe that "Treasure Ireland" is there for the taking. I don't believe that you can just make **** up, even if "people are angry."

People fly in to sign for dole fraud.

People fly in to collect childrens allowance when living somewhere else

People fly in to commit insurance fraud.

Its well known at this point that there is easy money here.

Woman sues Dunnes Stores over glass jug which shattered after she poured hot water in

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