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Woman sues Dunnes Stores over glass jug which shattered after she poured hot water in

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    Sher isn't it always somebody else's fault..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,811 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Making tea in a glass jug.
    Dem fordiners do be fierce funny all the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,044 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Any link? Wanna give it a read.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32,688 ✭✭✭✭ytpe2r5bxkn0c1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭Trigger Happy


    Surprised she did not sue Irish Water too. No warning label on the water.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,963 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    What about suing the kettle manufacturer and Electric Ireland for supplying the energy to boil the water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭matchthis


    If ye are what ye eat, then that girl ate the whole head of cabbage


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,297 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Don't suppose they've heard of teapots in Slovakia?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    moceri wrote: »
    This exceeds stupidity... Unless the glass is specifically designed for hot liquids.. Pyrex/Borosilicate glass...... Never fill with hot water.

    In the EU uppercase PYREX is proper borosilicate glass.

    In the US the brand was sold off so lowercase pyrex is soda glass or whatever is cheapest.


    https://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-03/gray-matter-cant-take-heat/
    One unfortunate use of Pyrex is cooking crack cocaine, which involves a container of water undergoing a rapid temperature change when the drug is converted from powder form. That process creates more stress than soda-lime glass can withstand, so an entire underground industry was forced to switch from measuring cups purchased at Walmart to test tubes and beakers stolen from labs. Which just goes to show, if you think you know all the consequences of your decisions today, you're probably wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,278 ✭✭✭kenmc


    Yet it was fine the evening before, when she also made "tea". Clearly whatever she did with it between it not shattering, and shattering, is the real issue, and hardly Dunnes liability.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 81,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sephiroth_dude


    Chancers!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 693 ✭✭✭The Satanist


    Need pics of the jugs so I can decide for myself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,119 ✭✭✭Tails142


    Manufacturers of chocolate teapots are currently reading this story in a panic


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Whenever I read glass and shatter I think of Stone Cold Steve Austins theme song.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    In fairness i remember everyone gave the lady who was burned by coffee in MC DONALDS a hard time.

    But this was what happened to her.

    https://media.makeameme.org/created/in-their-latest.jpg

    Her name was Stella Liebeck and she was 79 ...they found Mc Donalds kept their coffee way hotter than safety regulations allow.

    But everyone just laughed. It wasnt funny .


    People shouldn't judge until they have the facts.

    Unless the claiment is a member of FG.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,297 ✭✭✭Be right back


    In fairness i remember everyone gave the lady who was burned by coffee in MC DONALDS a hard time.

    But this was what happened to her.

    https://media.makeameme.org/created/in-their-latest.jpg

    Her name was Stella Liebeck and she was 79 ...they found Mc Donalds kept their coffee way hotter than safety regulations allow.

    But everyone just laughed. It wasnt funny .


    People shouldn't judge until they have the facts.

    Unless the claiment is a member of FG.

    According to this case, she said that she left the water cool down for a bit before she poured it into the jug.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,211 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    According to this case, she said that she left the water cool down for a bit before she poured it into the jug.


    That might be. I don't know.

    My point is something quite seemingly trivial can actually be life alteringly serious.:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,046 ✭✭✭Bio Mech


    According to this case, she said that she left the water cool down for a bit before she poured it into the jug.

    So she said. Wonder would she have any vested interest in saying that. like getting money maybe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,706 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1


    She's pretty. Just give her the money. Hurry.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 11,394 Mod ✭✭✭✭Captain Havoc


    When I lived in Switzerland we used to drink tea from slimjims, I thought it was nuts but that was the norm there. I think saying "it exceeds stupidity" is wrong. She made a mistake but I would not say it's stupid. Perhaps Dunnes should not use poor quality glass. Was there a lable saying "for cold drinks only" on it?

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    Walking Tours of Kilkenny in English, French or German.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,872 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    In fairness i remember everyone gave the lady who was burned by coffee in MC DONALDS a hard time.

    But this was what happened to her.

    https://media.makeameme.org/created/in-their-latest.jpg

    Her name was Stella Liebeck and she was 79 ...they found Mc Donalds kept their coffee way hotter than safety regulations allow.

    But everyone just laughed. It wasnt funny .


    People shouldn't judge until they have the facts.

    Unless the claiment is a member of FG.
    There is a documentary about this on Netflix.
    It's really well worth a watch.
    I don't think the two are comparable in any real way.

    This line is pretty telling
    "She was wearing leggings, which struck him as odd if she had burned her legs, he said"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,872 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    When I lived in Switzerland we used to drink tea from slimjims, I thought it was nuts but that was the norm there. I think saying "it exceeds stupidity" is wrong. She made a mistake but I would not say it's stupid. Perhaps Dunnes should not use poor quality glass. Was there a lable saying "for cold drinks only" on it?
    In the story dunnes said it was labelled as being suitable for cold drinks only


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,787 ✭✭✭Feisar


    gmisk wrote: »
    In the story dunnes said it was labelled as being suitable for cold drinks only

    Unless it's PYREX glass is not for hot liquids. Have known this since I was a little kid.

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,872 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Feisar wrote: »
    Unless it's PYREX glass is not for hot liquids. Have known this since I was a little kid.
    But in Slovakia apparently you fire anything you like in a glass jug...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    She's pretty. Just give her the money. Hurry.

    I think you may need a visit to Specsavers. It's free with your PRSI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Open the betting now

    20/1 it dismissed

    10/1 she gets a decent settlement

    5/1 gets a very generous figure

    Evens the judge says Dunnes should be more careful


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Judge Kevin Cross. Lets keep an eye on the verdict and possible verdict. If he awards anything in this case then he is the problem not chancers.

    If she brought this claim in Slovakia she'd be laughed out of court. They don't entertain frivilous lawsuits there.

    I read an article in a Slovak paper about a British woman who claimed she fell down a man hole when the cover was removed for work. The judge told her to look where she was walking in future and she lost the case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,360 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,138 ✭✭✭realitykeeper


    Lawyers are asking doctors to withhold evidence of previous claims by serial claimants. Should lawyers income be punitively taxed to compensate the taxpayer and society at large? The legal profession are a den of vipers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,872 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Lawyers are asking doctors to withhold evidence of previous claims by serial claimants. Should lawyers income be punitively taxed to compensate the taxpayer and society at large? The legal profession are a den of vipers.

    You mean like this one...the money she got is pretty staggering for f all
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/high-court/woman-who-slipped-on-chip-awarded-40-000-1.3089556%3fmode=amp


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    gmisk wrote: »

    Oh look. Judge Kevin Cross.

    "The judge also said she had made no attempt to hide the fact she had settled a separate action for €10,000 against Lidl supermarkets after issuing proceedings over a slip and fall in 2013."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,580 ✭✭✭NeinNeinNein


    gmisk wrote: »
    I wonder if the chip fell off her shoulder?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,872 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    I wonder if the chip fell off her shoulder?
    It instantly brought to mind a Victoria wood sketch for a claims site called slipped on a chip dot com...it's scarily accurate lol.

    I can't find video but text is below.

    It was just an ordinary day, I slipped on a chip. I rang 'slipped on a Chip dot com.' I won 8000 pounds in compensation. Enter a funny sketch and then the warning at the end of advert....
    "Warning 'Slipped on a chip dot' com is not available for French fries, curly chips or mash." Brilliant


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Apologies in advance if this comes out the wrong way, I just want to say I absolutely do not in any way encourage or agree or sympathise with this sort of bolloxology in any way.

    But the question has to be asked, who can blame the girl? I mean what's happened in this country in the last 40+ years (at least, to my personal memory anyway) to suggest she shouldn't chance it? It's not her fault it's worth a punt. If you're on minimum wage, low pay, social welfare, just not a lot of disposable income in general for any reason, and all of a sudden you find a list of legal precedents as long as your arm shelling out 5 figure sums in (*cough*) "compensation" for the slightest imaginary insult, why wouldn't you go for it? Morals and scruples be damned, if the law says you get 10K 'cos someone looked at you sideways then who am I to argue?

    Just looking at another recent thread here, OK we can all start farting and moaning about how a couple thought they should get 75 grand for being handed their restaurant bill in the smoking area instead of at their table in the dining room. Why shouldn't they think that? The law does nothing to the contrary and sure they've probably spent their entire lives reading newspaper articles about similar cases thinking this sort of thing is entirely the norm. And it is.

    TL/DR? Don't blame the chancer, blame the enabler.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,580 ✭✭✭NeinNeinNein


    Apologies in advance if this comes out the wrong way, I just want to say I absolutely do not in any way encourage or agree or sympathise with this sort of bolloxology in any way.

    But the question has to be asked, who can blame the girl? I mean what's happened in this country in the last 40+ years (at least, to my personal memory anyway) to suggest she shouldn't chance it? It's not her fault it's worth a punt. If you're on minimum wage, low pay, social welfare, just not a lot of disposable income in general for any reason, and all of a sudden you find a list of legal precedents as long as your arm shelling out 5 figure sums in (*cough*) "compensation" for the slightest imaginary insult, why wouldn't you go for it? Morals and scruples be damned, if the law says you get 10K 'cos someone looked at you sideways then who am I to argue?

    Just looking at another recent thread here, OK we can all start farting and moaning about how a couple thought they should get 75 grand for being handed their restaurant bill in the smoking area instead of at their table in the dining room. Why shouldn't they think that? The law does nothing to the contrary and sure they've probably spent their entire lives reading newspaper articles about similar cases thinking this sort of thing is entirely the norm. And it is.

    TL/DR? Don't blame the chancer, blame the enabler.
    Have you made any claims yourself?


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Have you made any claims yourself?

    No, never, I'd be from a different generation that prefers to take responsibility for our own actions/stupidity. That's the way we learnt things, I just don't put 100% of the blame entirely on the shoulders of the claimant here if that's what she's been instructed is the normal course of events.

    "Someone looks at you sideways? Here, have a quick 10 grand!". Absolute BS make no mistake, but there's a lot of people involved in this chain making money from the whole scam culture other than the self identified "victim".

    My point is that it's kinda hard to blame her for genuinely not seeing that she might be doing something wrong. I don't agree with it, I made that clear, but if the courts are shelling out other people's money hand over fist why wouldn't she think she's totally in the right here?

    Things have to change further up the chain here, the claimant is only taking advantage of a situation not of their making and for which they don't have a valid reason for thinking is wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,370 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Reminds me of the time I poured lava into a poppadom, got severely burned and the courts gave me €5Bn.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,215 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    How many warnings will they have to put on a glass jug in the future?
    If you leave it fall it could shatter.
    If you put boiling water in it it might shatter.
    If you put water in it and freeze it might shatter.
    If you hug it might shatter.
    If you stand on it it might shatter.
    If you sit on it might shatter.
    If you throw it at a wall or ceiling it might shatter.
    If you drive over it, It might shatter.
    If you put it in the fire it might shatter.


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How many warnings will they have to put on a glass jug in the future?
    If you leave it fall it could shatter.
    If you put boiling water in it it might shatter.
    If you put water in it and freeze it might shatter.
    If you hug it might shatter.
    If you stand on it it might shatter.
    If you sit on it might shatter.
    If you throw it at a wall or ceiling it might shatter.
    If you drive over it, It might shatter.
    If you put it in the fire it might shatter.

    My dad bought a step ladder a while back. It had so many warnings on it, it was one step below saying do not stand on this step ladder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,390 ✭✭✭Cordell


    The judge said he accepted that in Slovakia, which is Ms Cekanova’s home country and in parts of Eastern Europe it is the custom to make tea in a glass jug
    What about suing Slovakia for not warning people leaving for Ireland that the Irish glass jugs are prone to shattering when used to make hot tea?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭Reckless Abandonment


    Even if dunnes sold a faulty jug.. 56k is just fecking silly. Where do they get these numbers from


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Is Dara Murphy related to Judge Cross? No messing around with anything under €50 k.


    How can I sure to get him for my upcoming claim. ( I haven’t made up my mind what the claim is yet, but he would hear the case fairly and then order compensation)

    In the old cowboy films you always got a fair trial before being found guilty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Plane loads of Slovakians here next week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,261 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    joeysoap wrote: »
    Open the betting now

    20/1 it dismissed

    10/1 she gets a decent settlement

    5/1 gets a very generous figure

    Evens the judge says Dunnes should be more careful

    5/1 it is then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    On the basis that the judge awarded damages because the woman is Czech and using glass jugs for hot tea is a custom there, should he not have studied up on awards given to such "victims" in the Czech republic and given similar.
    Do you think she would get €56K out there? Would she feck.


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    On the basis that the judge awarded damages because the woman is Czech and using glass jugs for hot tea is a custom there, should he not have studied up on awards given to such "victims" in the Czech republic and given similar.
    Do you think she would get €56K out there? Would she feck.

    Slovak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,443 ✭✭✭fergiesfolly


    Slovak.

    Wherever. Point stands


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