Beep scheme - anyone joining

patsy_mccabe · 02-11-2020 4:16pm

Dozer1 wrote: »

Hi Patsy, if its the crowd in Roscommon ring them, I was the same as you and they had put in my email address wrong

Neighbour sent in the same day and he's heard nothing yet either.

Earnshaw · 02-11-2020 5:05pm

tanko wrote: »

No, weights couldn’t be inputted on ICBF after 12 midnight last night which i think is unfair on farmers who weighed in the last few days.
It doesn’t affect me but a neighbour of mine got caught out, he thought he had a week to put in the weights the same as people who weighed earlier had.

He still can. Just click on record events tab and 'Live Weights'. Enter them there but make sure to put date of weighing before 1st of November.

tanko · 02-11-2020 5:57pm

I don’t think the system will let you do that now.

emaherx · 02-11-2020 6:05pm

ABitofsense wrote: »

Thats what i dont understand. How have lads waited till the very end to actually do the tasks when they new fully what & when things needed to be done by!!

Everyone's situation is different, I choose to leave the last batch till the last minute as they were on an out farm too far away to bring in to weigh earlier. It was much easier to get the help once, so brought in weighed and housed in the same day it was the most time efficient way for me.

As for entering weights I just weighed and entered weights directly into mobile app as I weighed them.

Lady Haywire · 02-11-2020 6:06pm

The BEEP-S section can tell me where I rented the scales from & on what date, if his shows that, surely they'll accept the posted version as they were weighed before the cut off date.

emaherx · 02-11-2020 6:11pm

tanko wrote: »

I don’t think the system will let you do that now.

Mobile app says this now.

RECORDING FOR BEEP 2020 CLOSED AT 12PM ON 1ST NOVEMBER 2020

Think Lady Haywires solution is the only option now for anyone who didn't enter weights on time.

SuperTortoise · 02-11-2020 9:33pm

Still no word on dung samples from FarmLab, they will be sent in 3 weeks on Wednesday, rang them last Friday and they said they were testing stuff sent in on the 14th and my batch should be tested shortly, could'nt even tell me if my samples actually arrived, lucky i registered them when i posted them and kept the receipt.

tractorporn · 03-11-2020 9:35pm

Just received this email from herdwatch tonight!

Hi xxxx

We just wanted to let you know that you must submit your programme action sheets for the Beep-S scheme to the Department this week.

You should have already received them by post over the past few days and they must be completed and received by November 6 in order to qualify for the full payment. If you have not received them yet, we have attached both record forms to this email.

You must either complete the Meal Feeding record or Vaccination record depending on what action you chose.

Where do I send the form?

You can send it by email it to beep@agriculture.gov.ie or post it to:

Beef Schemes,
Government Offices,
Old Abbeyleix Road,
Portlaoise,
Co Laois
R32 RPA6

Meal Feeding Meal feeding must commence for a period of 4 weeks pre-weaning and 2 weeks post-weaning to reduce the stress on calves at weaning time and record action.Meal purchases receipts (or evidence of use of own farm-produced cereals) must be retained on-farm and made available for inspectionParticipants may feed purchased compound feed containing minerals and vitamins or straights (feed materials).You must retain sales documents for any cow/calves sold, which along with the feed delivery dockets and date of weaning, will “verify” the calf was fed four weeks pre-weaning and two weeks post-weaning.Applicants must record the date of weaning of each animal that is being submitted for payment.Where groups of calves are weaned on different dates, record the different weaning dates for each group. Vaccination

Option 1.
Single RSV and Pi3 Intranasal 2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale;

Single RSV and Pi3 Intranasal 2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale;At the same time, a single (or 2 dose program) IBR live intra-muscular injection (2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale).

Option 2.

First subcutaneous injection o 6 to 8 weeks before weaning/housing/sale;Second subcutaneous injection 2 to 4-weeks before weaning/housing/sale;At the same time as the second injection, a Single IBR live intra-muscular, 2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale.The procedures in both options must be completed in full and are equally applicable to both spring and autumn-born calves.

All the best,

James

MealFeedingRecordSheetver2231020 (1).docx VaccinationRecordSheetver2231020 (2).docx

Jb1989 · 03-11-2020 10:01pm

tractorporn wrote: »

Just received this email from herdwatch tonight!

Hi xxxx

We just wanted to let you know that you must submit your programme action sheets for the Beep-S scheme to the Department this week.

You should have already received them by post over the past few days and they must be completed and received by November 6 in order to qualify for the full payment. If you have not received them yet, we have attached both record forms to this email.

You must either complete the Meal Feeding record or Vaccination record depending on what action you chose.

Where do I send the form?

You can send it by email it to beep@agriculture.gov.ie or post it to:

Beef Schemes,
Government Offices,
Old Abbeyleix Road,
Portlaoise,
Co Laois
R32 RPA6

Meal Feeding Meal feeding must commence for a period of 4 weeks pre-weaning and 2 weeks post-weaning to reduce the stress on calves at weaning time and record action.Meal purchases receipts (or evidence of use of own farm-produced cereals) must be retained on-farm and made available for inspectionParticipants may feed purchased compound feed containing minerals and vitamins or straights (feed materials).You must retain sales documents for any cow/calves sold, which along with the feed delivery dockets and date of weaning, will “verify” the calf was fed four weeks pre-weaning and two weeks post-weaning.Applicants must record the date of weaning of each animal that is being submitted for payment.Where groups of calves are weaned on different dates, record the different weaning dates for each group. Vaccination

Option 1.
Single RSV and Pi3 Intranasal 2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale;

Single RSV and Pi3 Intranasal 2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale;At the same time, a single (or 2 dose program) IBR live intra-muscular injection (2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale).

Option 2.

First subcutaneous injection o 6 to 8 weeks before weaning/housing/sale;Second subcutaneous injection 2 to 4-weeks before weaning/housing/sale;At the same time as the second injection, a Single IBR live intra-muscular, 2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale.The procedures in both options must be completed in full and are equally applicable to both spring and autumn-born calves.

All the best,

James

MealFeedingRecordSheetver2231020 (1).docx VaccinationRecordSheetver2231020 (2).docx

Is there a requirement for the amount of meal fed at weaning time, as in a kg a day or adlib,

High bike · 03-11-2020 11:00pm

Jb1989 wrote: »

Is there a requirement for the amount of meal fed at weaning time, as in a kg a day or adlib,

no they never specified an amount afaik,just 4 weeks feeding pre weaning and 2 weeks after

SuperTortoise · 03-11-2020 11:00pm

I have not heard anything about submitting meal and vaccination records? Should i have? I signed up for dung samples and meal feeding but i've done the vaccination myself as well.

Lady Haywire · 03-11-2020 11:03pm

Not heard anything here either? Perhaps only a select few are the chosen ones.

Jb1989 · 03-11-2020 11:03pm

High bike wrote: »

no they never specified an amount afaik,just 4 weeks feeding pre weaning and 2 weeks after

Thank u

Butcher Boy · 03-11-2020 11:16pm

tractorporn wrote: »

Just received this email from herdwatch tonight!

Hi xxxx

We just wanted to let you know that you must submit your programme action sheets for the Beep-S scheme to the Department this week.

You should have already received them by post over the past few days and they must be completed and received by November 6 in order to qualify for the full payment. If you have not received them yet, we have attached both record forms to this email.

You must either complete the Meal Feeding record or Vaccination record depending on what action you chose.

Where do I send the form?

You can send it by email it to beep@agriculture.gov.ie or post it to:

Beef Schemes,
Government Offices,
Old Abbeyleix Road,
Portlaoise,
Co Laois
R32 RPA6

Meal Feeding Meal feeding must commence for a period of 4 weeks pre-weaning and 2 weeks post-weaning to reduce the stress on calves at weaning time and record action.Meal purchases receipts (or evidence of use of own farm-produced cereals) must be retained on-farm and made available for inspectionParticipants may feed purchased compound feed containing minerals and vitamins or straights (feed materials).You must retain sales documents for any cow/calves sold, which along with the feed delivery dockets and date of weaning, will “verify” the calf was fed four weeks pre-weaning and two weeks post-weaning.Applicants must record the date of weaning of each animal that is being submitted for payment.Where groups of calves are weaned on different dates, record the different weaning dates for each group. Vaccination

Option 1.
Single RSV and Pi3 Intranasal 2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale;

Single RSV and Pi3 Intranasal 2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale;At the same time, a single (or 2 dose program) IBR live intra-muscular injection (2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale).

Option 2.

First subcutaneous injection o 6 to 8 weeks before weaning/housing/sale;Second subcutaneous injection 2 to 4-weeks before weaning/housing/sale;At the same time as the second injection, a Single IBR live intra-muscular, 2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale.The procedures in both options must be completed in full and are equally applicable to both spring and autumn-born calves.

All the best,

James

MealFeedingRecordSheetver2231020 (1).docx VaccinationRecordSheetver2231020 (2).docx

I got it aswell sent out in the post yesterday.

tanko · 03-11-2020 11:41pm

SuperTortoise wrote: »

I have not heard anything about submitting meal and vaccination records? Should i have? I signed up for dung samples and meal feeding but i've done the vaccination myself as well.

If you're not asked to send records in then you don't have to afaik.

High bike · 03-11-2020 11:47pm

Is say it's because the on farm inspections are a no no in the current climate so they doing a few spot checks

jd06 · 04-11-2020 10:20am

tractorporn wrote: »

Just received this email from herdwatch tonight!

Hi xxxx

We just wanted to let you know that you must submit your programme action sheets for the Beep-S scheme to the Department this week.

You should have already received them by post over the past few days and they must be completed and received by November 6 in order to qualify for the full payment. If you have not received them yet, we have attached both record forms to this email.

You must either complete the Meal Feeding record or Vaccination record depending on what action you chose.

Where do I send the form?

You can send it by email it to beep@agriculture.gov.ie or post it to:

Beef Schemes,
Government Offices,
Old Abbeyleix Road,
Portlaoise,
Co Laois
R32 RPA6

Meal Feeding Meal feeding must commence for a period of 4 weeks pre-weaning and 2 weeks post-weaning to reduce the stress on calves at weaning time and record action.Meal purchases receipts (or evidence of use of own farm-produced cereals) must be retained on-farm and made available for inspectionParticipants may feed purchased compound feed containing minerals and vitamins or straights (feed materials).You must retain sales documents for any cow/calves sold, which along with the feed delivery dockets and date of weaning, will “verify” the calf was fed four weeks pre-weaning and two weeks post-weaning.Applicants must record the date of weaning of each animal that is being submitted for payment.Where groups of calves are weaned on different dates, record the different weaning dates for each group. Vaccination

Option 1.
Single RSV and Pi3 Intranasal 2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale;

Single RSV and Pi3 Intranasal 2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale;At the same time, a single (or 2 dose program) IBR live intra-muscular injection (2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale).

Option 2.

First subcutaneous injection o 6 to 8 weeks before weaning/housing/sale;Second subcutaneous injection 2 to 4-weeks before weaning/housing/sale;At the same time as the second injection, a Single IBR live intra-muscular, 2 to 4 weeks before weaning/housing/sale.The procedures in both options must be completed in full and are equally applicable to both spring and autumn-born calves.

All the best,

James

MealFeedingRecordSheetver2231020 (1).docx VaccinationRecordSheetver2231020 (2).docx

Hi all I recieved the email too
I was wondering do I have to impute the tag number of each calf or do I do it as a group.
Also I sold 2 weanlings do I have to have sales receipt for them and show where I fed them 4 weeks prior
And lastly how do I send in the meal documents by email ! Take a screenshot and send it on ?
Tia

ABitofsense · 04-11-2020 11:53am

jd06 wrote: »

And lastly how do I send in the meal documents by email ! Take a screenshot and send it on ?
Tia

I scanned & emailed the meal receipts in with the form filled out with date started feeding, all dates & invoices numbers for the meal purchases, weaning dates for different groups. From the meal purchases and dates they can easily see my 19 calves were eating ~25kg a day meal on average over the since end of July

I sold 8 weanlings a few weeks ago but didn't include it as it not asked in my case as the letter i received on requested the above information and that they would be checking data on Agfood too.

Lime Tree Farm · 04-11-2020 12:08pm

Is Herdwatch a government authorised agency tasked with issuing instructions.

I downloaded the T&C again this morning:

9.6 Each applicant must maintain a record to demonstrate the completion of the actions chosen for the Programme.

The Department will supplement compliance inspections with Administrative Control checks whereby a percentage of farmers will be required to submit their records and associated documentation to the Department upon request at various times in the programme year. These records will be examined as a means of checking compliance with actions. It is a requirement of the Programme that the applicant must fully comply with such request to submit information to the Department.

Failure to produce or forward the records when requested will be a breach of the programme obligations and will result in no payments for the relevant year and a 50% administrative penalty based on the overall amount which would have been payable in the year for that action will be imposed.

9.7 BEEP-S participants will not be eligible for payment under the Suckler Health and Welfare Top Up unless they carry out the BEEP-S requirements in full.

Dozer1 · 04-11-2020 12:38pm

I emailed them this morning and their answer below, just in case I need it for future ref, backs up what already stated previously

"It is only a spot check it hasn’t to be completed unless we contact you. "

jd06 · 04-11-2020 12:56pm

Dozer1 wrote: »

I emailed them this morning and their answer below, just in case I need it for future ref, backs up what already stated previously

"It is only a spot check it hasn’t to be completed unless we contact you. "

Ya I rang teagasc advisor he said herdwatch may have jumped the gun with the email . He said only fill out if you receive a letter in the post

Did anyone receive a letter by post yet .

tractorporn · 04-11-2020 1:15pm

jd06 wrote: »

Ya I rang teagasc advisor he said herdwatch may have jumped the gun with the email . He said only fill out if you receive a letter in the post

Did anyone receive a letter by post yet .

Looks like herdwatch made a big boo boo and got a rap on the knuckles

Hi John,

I have to apologise for my previous email as it contained incorrect information.

If you have not received a programme action sheet from the Department in the past few days then you do not have to take any further action and can disregard my previous email.

However you must still ensure that you keep a record of the actions required for your own records and inspection purposes. (i.e. Weaning and Meal Feeding or Vaccination)

Apologies for the confusion,

All the best,

James

High bike · 09-11-2020 9:21pm

Got one of these letters today with an action sheet to be filled in.Have all the dates for weaning feeding etc and dockets for meal but there is a section on mineral supplementation aswell,an I right in thinking minerals are included in the meal or should I have given minerals too ??

Grueller · 10-11-2020 9:59am

High bike wrote: »

Got one of these letters today with an action sheet to be filled in.Have all the dates for weaning feeding etc and dockets for meal but there is a section on mineral supplementation aswell,an I right in thinking minerals are included in the meal or should I have given minerals too ??

Afaik I only think that's relevant if you were mixing your own straights HB.

High bike · 10-11-2020 2:39pm

Grueller wrote: »

Afaik I only think that's relevant if you were mixing your own straights HB.

was thinking that all rite it just threw me when I saw it on the sheet

dodo mommy · 10-11-2020 6:07pm

Evening all

I got a letter in the post yesterday from the dept looking for dates I vaccinated the weanlings for pneumonia on. In the letter it say RSV injection. I used RSP injection. Have I used the wrong vaccine and what's the difference?

Lime Tree Farm · 10-11-2020 6:52pm

dodo mommy wrote: »

Evening all

I got a letter in the post yesterday from the dept looking for dates I vaccinated the weanlings for pneumonia on. In the letter it say RSV injection. I used RSP injection. Have I used the wrong vaccine and what's the difference?

Bovipast RSP covers Respiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV) among others listed. Hope that helps, as we used the RSP vaccine also.

Jb1989 · 15-11-2020 2:40pm

I left dung samples in Oldcastle lab on the the 30 November.
Results were emailed to me there on Friday 13th.
Positive for liver fluke.
Negative for rumen fluke.

valtra2 · 15-11-2020 3:15pm

Jb1989 wrote: »

I left dung samples in Oldcastle lab on the the 30 November.
Results were emailed to me there on Friday 13th.
Positive for liver fluke.
Negative for rumen fluke.

I got the same results but would not put to much faith in the results as there were 2 weeks before they were tested. Got them tested in local vets as I do every year and all came back negative. I will test again after Christmas. Have not done cows for fluke in 3 years now.

sonnybill · 25-11-2020 1:02am

I got this money Oct 25th last year, is it early December This year or anyone have A proposed date of payment?

Base price · 25-11-2020 9:46am

According to a circular send by DAFM in August - BDGP, Organic Farming Scheme (advance payment), BEEP (Suckler), balancing payments under the ANC and Protein Aid will be paid in December 2020.

MeheeHohee · 26-11-2020 11:46am

Is there likely to be a second iteration / continuation of the BDGP scheme, you'd imagine there is too much money invested in it to leave it off now? Suprised not to have heard anything about a new one yet

Grueller · 26-11-2020 12:53pm

MeheeHohee wrote: »

Is there likely to be a second iteration / continuation of the BDGP scheme, you'd imagine there is too much money invested in it to leave it off now? Suprised not to have heard anything about a new one yet

It would want to be drastically simplified and imo would need to be matched by some sort of scheme for dairy cross calves as thats where the future of beef is headed unfortunately.