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Official Conor McGregor thread (part 6) *Read Mod Note in Post 1* Revised 13-01-19

  • 18-10-2018 4:39pm
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    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Official Conor McGregor thread (part 6)

    The last thread was nearing the 10k post limit where boards explodes so here's part 6.

    Usual rules apply. Read the forum charter if you havent, no fighter bashing or allegations of PED's etc.

    Keep it civil at all times!

    Any name-calling, trolling, baiting, or being a general ass-hat will earn you a ban from the thread and possibly the forum.
    If you have an issue with a post, please use the report post function.

    Any off topic posts will be deleted.
    Any "Do you even train Bro?" or "I'm an mma fan longer than you" type posts are not permitted either. They only make you look like a fool and as a result, everyone hates you. Yes everyone.

    Fighter bashing is against the charter - no name calling and derogatory terms..

    Previous thread here


    12/12/18 Please read the following before replying:
    Steve wrote: »
    OK, thread re-opened on the following condition:

    NO discussion of the alleged 'incident' will be permitted. There is an ongoing Garda investigation (reported on a mainstream news site) but that's as far as it has got.

    Any discussion will lead to this being closed and action taken against those who discussed it.


    If the situation changes, this condition will be reviewed / relaxed as appropriate.


    Updated 13/01/2019
    Charter amended to make it very clear - lose the stupid names like McTapper etc. Shows someone to be nothing but an immature troll out to goad others..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,134 ✭✭✭dashoonage


    mcnugget.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    The thing about McGregor's style of performance/media personality is it's a constant attempt for the soundbite - the one liner. The short video for this generation - the short clip for Instagram. So he's just going and going and hoping for something to pop out that will go viral. And that just leads to constant overreaching and a lot of cringe. But if gets two moments or one moment of a 9 second viral clip - who the fook is that guy - he's on a winner in terms of promotion. So if you sit down to watch a chunk of presser there's a lot of nonsense to be sat through...


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    He'll never win another 5 round fight in the UFC.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    The thing about McGregor's style of performance/media personality is it's a constant attempt for the soundbite - the one liner. The short video for this generation - the short clip for Instagram. So he's just going and going and hoping for something to pop out that will go viral. And that just leads to constant overreaching and a lot of cringe. But if gets two moments or one moment of a 9 second viral clip - who the fook is that guy - he's on a winner in terms of promotion. So if you sit down to watch a chunk of presser there's a lot of nonsense to be sat through...

    "who the fook is that guy" - was over two years ago and it's probably the last actual witty thing he's said. He's gone full effin and blinding now, which isn't big and isn't clever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    "who the fook is that guy" - was over two years ago and it's probably the last actual witty thing he's said. He's gone full effin and blinding now, which isn't big and isn't clever.

    Class. I guess, move on with your life and stop posting about him? I'd say you'd be happier.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    He'll never win another 5 round fight in the UFC.

    Mystical! Do you have a column that predicts the future?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Mystical! Do you have a column that predicts the future?

    I'll bet you two euro..payable through PayPal..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    I'll bet you two euro..payable through PayPal..

    You're grand!


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    "who the fook is that guy" - was over two years ago and it's probably the last actual witty thing he's said. He's gone full effin and blinding now, which isn't big and isn't clever.

    He had a good one with Khabib about how he won his belt from a real estate agent.


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    He had a good one with Khabib about how he won his belt from a real estate agent.

    ???...but then khabib hammered the sh1te out of him..made him look like a plumber..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,627 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    "who the fook is that guy" - was over two years ago and it's probably the last actual witty thing he's said. He's gone full effin and blinding now, which isn't big and isn't clever.

    Kind of agree, and that was at a stretch.

    I never took to his utterings as being in any way clever or witty or charismatic; they always just came across as vulgar and loutish and bland...

    I just cannot understand how swearing is seen as witty. The odd swear word here and there I can take, but with some in today's society they feel the more they swear the cooler and greater they sound...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    He had a good one with Khabib about how he won his belt from a real estate agent.

    So good you can’t remember it offhand?? Must have been a zinger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    "who the fook is that guy" - was over two years ago and it's probably the last actual witty thing he's said. He's gone full effin and blinding now, which isn't big and isn't clever.

    "Smell of shíte off yer Da" was clever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 776 ✭✭✭Fall_Guy


    The Nal wrote: »
    "Smell of shíte off yer Da" was clever.

    I thought "I'll tap your head off the canvas" was a great reply to khabibs mctapper taunts....wholly inaccurate, but a good retort at the time :D

    From the outside looking in it seems like such a clichéd development, McGregor's career....the more money he acquired, the less he smiled, the more he seemed to manifest success for himself through sheer force of will and positive affirmations, the less positive he seemed to be in his mindset.

    He went from a mentality of "losers focus on winners, winners focus on winning" to the most personal, vitriolic attacks on people. And not just in public for promotion, but via direct messages on twitter.

    It seems too much of a cliche to even utter, and what do I know about what goes on behind the scenes, but it really does have the feel of a lad abandoning the things that helped get him to the top in the first place.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭dulux99


    Money corrupts people. Simple as.

    He was great craic once upon a time. For mma fans in this country it was an amazing few years, from having most people in the country not knowing the first thing about it the sport, to our most famous athlete being an mma fighter. The night in Dublin where the Irish (i include gunni :D) went undefeated was insane. I couldn't believe what was happening. Having been at UFC 93 a few years prior and it was the most niche of sports, to only a few years later a big gang of Irish lads "taking over". Great Times.

    I've said it in another thread but I've gone to the euros as an Ireland supporting fan, and it was great, but we knew ultimately it was only a jolly up. No expectation of winning. To go on trips like the Vegas ones, having an Irishman fighting in the main event where he had real chances of winning, was a special thing.

    It's been a great few years and maybe we'll have some good times in the future, but it saddens me how he's mostly disliked how he's hated by the average Joe now. I take no issue with those who dislike him, he's a hard guy to like now. He's also the exact type of person Irish people love to hate - Irish people love seeing someone who they feel is too big for their boots being put back in their place.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    ???...but then khabib hammered the sh1te out of him..made him look like a plumber..

    The result of the fight doesn't change the fact I found that line funny at the time.
    So good you can’t remember it offhand?? Must have been a zinger.

    I can remember it off hand I just said it, he said khabib won his belt from a real estate agent. I can't remember it word for word but it was something like 'that's not even a real belt you beat a real estate agent for it'. Regardless, not being able to remember the quote word for word of a line I heard once 2 weeks doesn't mean it's not funny. I can't give you a single quote of an episode of it's always sunny I seen a few days ago but I still found the episode funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    I'm surprised some people don't fall over with the size of the chip on there shoulders when it comes to McGregor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭dulux99


    So good you can’t remember it offhand?? Must have been a zinger.

    Ricky Gervais last standup show was hilarious but I can't tell you any of the jokes verbatim. Must have been sh*te in they case eh?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,348 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    dulux99 wrote: »
    Money corrupts people. Simple as.

    He was great craic once upon a time.
    For mma fans in this country it was an amazing few years, from having most people in the country not knowing the first thing about it the sport, to our most famous athlete being an mma fighter. The night in Dublin where the Irish (i include gunni :D) went undefeated was insane. I couldn't believe what was happening. Having been at UFC 93 a few years prior and it was the most niche of sports, to only a few years later a big gang of Irish lads "taking over". Great Times.

    I've said it in another thread but I've gone to the euros as an Ireland supporting fan, and it was great, but we knew ultimately it was only a jolly up. No expectation of winning. To go on trips like the Vegas ones, having an Irishman fighting in the main event where he had real chances of winning, was a special thing.

    It's been a great few years and maybe we'll have some good times in the future, but it saddens me how he's mostly disliked how he's hated by the average Joe now. I take no issue with those who dislike him, he's a hard guy to like now. He's also the exact type of person Irish people love to hate - Irish people love seeing someone who they feel is too big for their boots being put back in their place.


    He still is.....there's nothing more exciting than the week leading up to a McGregor fight


    all the other stuff I aint too interested in, I dare say when he gives up fighting I'd have little or no interest in what he does


  • Registered Users Posts: 18 mmmayonaise


    McGregor lost his charm and wit.

    On the way up he was charming and hungry for success.

    Immediately after the Aldo fight his ego exploded. That press conference with RDA was abysmal. His charm and wit gone.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,100 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    McGregor lost his charm and wit.

    On the way up he was charming and hungry for success.

    Immediately after the Aldo fight his ego exploded. That press conference with RDA was abysmal. His charm and wit gone.

    His interview with Ariel and the Mac life just before the khabib fight were great and a lot like the old McGregor interviews. I wish he'd act like that a lot more. That probably doesn't get the views though which is a pity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,627 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    dulux99 wrote: »
    Ricky Gervais last standup show was hilarious

    This post is funnier than any of the sh1t that has come out of Conor’s mouth....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭Tazzimus


    The persona was amped up as the fights got bigger to generate more interest etc, he knows what he's doing.

    As for the cursing thing, are people really that snowflakey?
    Maybe it's just the fact I'm from town and curse a fair bit myself, but I see that as a non issue


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    McGregor better than MR PED TACOS:

    floydmayweather#TBT It didn’t matter if Canelo ate his PED steak or not this night, this was by far the easiest fight of my career! Connor McQuitter was a way better fighter than Canelo's cheating ass and I beat the brakes off him too! It takes me 36 mins or less to make $300 million plus. It literally takes me 1 night and 1 fight to make what you might make in 5 years and 11 fights! So really, who's still winning? You do the math!

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BpFZ3Xggm6Y/?utm_source=ig_embed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    The whole Mayweather ****e ruined him. Fair play it made him the big bucks but his attitude and persona went to the dogs in the build up and aftermath of that fight.

    Some of the comments he made towards Khabib and his father was way over the top and totally disrepectful. Was great to see him dominated and humbled by a warrior like Khabib.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    ricero wrote: »
    The whole Mayweather ****e ruined him. Fair play it made him the big bucks but his attitude and persona went to the dogs in the build up and aftermath of that fight.

    Some of the comments he made towards Khabib and his father was way over the top and totally disrepectful. Was great to see him dominated and humbled by a warrior like Khabib.

    Mayweather had him like a performing monkey in the buildup to that fight, sending him out on stage for 20 mins of a stand-up show to sell PPV's.

    He has been and is a great fighter but money is his motivation now and I don't see him regaining a hunger needed to beat the top guys any more.

    Diaz 3 and a rematch with Khabib to top up the bank balance seem like the only fights worth making for him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    ricero wrote: »

    Some of the comments he made towards Khabib and his father was way over the top and totally disrepectful. Was great to see him dominated and humbled by a warrior like Khabib.

    That was what done it for me too and make me mostly break my silence on him.

    Not because it was Conor, personally I don't really give a toss about him. But I was glad and always will be glad to see someone who carried on like that suffer an absolutely humiliating defeat.

    Insert any name but anyone who has carried on like that to a run up to a fight deserves the beat down CmcG got.

    I'd like to see him enjoy his wealth and young family, and disappear now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    RoryMac wrote: »
    Mayweather had him like a performing monkey in the buildup to that fight, sending him out on stage for 20 mins of a stand-up show to sell PPV's.

    He has been and is a great fighter but money is his motivation now and I don't see him regaining a hunger needed to beat the top guys any more.

    Diaz 3 and a rematch with Khabib to top up the bank balance seem like the only fights worth making for him.

    The only fights! hahaha

    Only!

    This thread is amazing!

    McGregor is in nothing but epic fights and getting paid vast sums of money.

    You'd think he was on the undercard!

    Has a great trilogy to complete and another crack at the belt.

    Money is the motivation now! Hasn't got the hunger anymore. Let me get the violin out!

    That's all he has left!!!!! hahaha

    What are ye like!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    "Why do you have a schoolbag Floyd? You can't even read" was pretty funny.


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    derfderf wrote: »
    "Why do you have a schoolbag Floyd? You can't even read" was pretty funny.

    Have we established that McGregor can read?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    Have we established that McGregor can read?

    Zing. I wouldn't like to be Conor right now...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    I'd like to see him enjoy his wealth and young family, and disappear now.

    Didn’t you claim he already had disappeared?

    This after he had publically been in a number of cities in the United States promoting his whiskey, attended a concert in the Staples Center, and a few hours before took the field at the stadium of one of the most famous and popular teams in world sports?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Paully D wrote: »
    one of the most famous and popular teams in world sports?

    The Dallas Dolphins wasn't it? When was the last time they even won the NBA championship?
    Who cares about American Football that much outside of Americans?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,649 ✭✭✭Whelo79



    Not because it was Conor, personally I don't really give a toss about him. But I was glad and always will be glad to see someone who carried on like that suffer an absolutely humiliating defeat.

    Insert any name but anyone who has carried on like that to a run up to a fight deserves the beat down CmcG got.

    I agree with this in principal but I think history will be kind to McGregor (dependent on his actions and fight results over the next few years, he is skirting a fine line currently). Look at the things Muhammed Ali done and the adoration her holds in general public opinion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    If you though Joe Brolly was bad then i would advice people not to listen to Ewan MacKenna interview on Dunphys podcast.

    Some ****e spouted about Mcgregor and the sport


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭dulux99


    ricero wrote: »
    If you though Joe Brolly was bad then i would advice people not to listen to Ewan MacKenna interview on Dunphys podcast.

    Some ****e spouted about Mcgregor and the sport

    On the other hand Dunphy had Philip O'connor on last week who did a great job of representing the sport. I wish I was that eloquent when my Co workers ask me about it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    ricero wrote: »
    If you though Joe Brolly was bad then i would advice people not to listen to Ewan MacKenna interview on Dunphys podcast.

    Some ****e spouted about Mcgregor and the sport

    Two clowns they are, there twitter replies to people boil my blood.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    The only fights! hahaha

    Only!

    This thread is amazing!

    McGregor is in nothing but epic fights and getting paid vast sums of money.

    You'd think he was on the undercard!

    Has a great trilogy to complete and another crack at the belt.

    Money is the motivation now! Hasn't got the hunger anymore. Let me get the violin out!

    That's all he has left!!!!! hahaha

    What are ye like!

    Ok so who else do you realistically see him fighting? Is he going to start fighting guys like Lee or Barboza?

    He'll probably fight 2 or 3 times more and I'd expect Khabib & Diaz to be 2 of them.

    Of course he can fight anyone & make big money and could if he wants fight another 10 times but I don't see that happening, do you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    Whelo79 wrote: »
    Look at the things Muhammed Ali done and the adoration her holds in general public opinion.

    What did he do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,760 ✭✭✭Effects


    RoryMac wrote: »
    Of course he can fight anyone & make big money and could if he wants fight another 10 times but I don't see that happening, do you?

    I completely understand the work that goes in to building his business and brand, but I think that takes away from what he needs to compete like he did at his peak.
    I can't see him with too many more fights but I don't think he'll want to end it being beaten by Khabib as his final fight. Nor will he take an easy fight just for the win.
    I'm not mad into seeing him against Diaz anymore but I'd love to see him and GSP have a fight.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,627 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    derfderf wrote: »
    "Why do you have a schoolbag Floyd? You can't even read" was pretty funny.

    I don't find that funny.....more "cruel." Low cheap shot.....selling a fight or not I didn't laugh at it....

    That's just me...


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Effects wrote: »
    I completely understand the work that goes in to building his business and brand, but I think that takes away from what he needs to compete like he did at his peak.
    I can't see him with too many more fights but I don't think he'll want to end it being beaten by Khabib as his final fight. Nor will he take an easy fight just for the win.
    I'm not mad into seeing him against Diaz anymore but I'd love to see him and GSP have a fight.


    I'm not too pushed on the Diaz fight either but to fight Diaz & hopefully win would be a good leadup to the Khabib rematch. A final fight against GSP would be a great way to finish his career.

    He won't be fighting mid-ranked guys(Diaz aside) to stay in contention for title shots and I doubt the titles are a motivation for him now unless they introduce a 165 title. For his last few fights I expect he'll be picking fights based on money he can make and fair play to him if he does


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭Mean Laqueefa


    ricero wrote: »
    If you though Joe Brolly was bad then i would advice people not to listen to Ewan MacKenna interview on Dunphys podcast.

    Some ****e spouted about Mcgregor and the sport
    dulux99 wrote: »
    On the other hand Dunphy had Philip O'connor on last week who did a great job of representing the sport. I wish I was that eloquent when my Co workers ask me about it!

    Phillip is sound as, and has some real passion for alot of sports and deep knowledge of them and the ability to go back re-watch and learn then educate others whilst speaking so well.

    Brolly in my opinion is still just a narky **** that hasnt got a clue about anything other than GAA, as ASOT said **** about GAA, talking about GAA, and then crying into a pillow

    #hatefilledangerwank

    Atleast Mckenna recognizes it as a sport, and does admire Conor as a fighter, but some of the conclusions he jumped to where miles away from reality. Black wrap culture of ALL Conors fans, that the large majority of Conors fans spent the weekend doing MDMA and sniff, going backwards down escalators. Im not saying some can be **** but i hate that lads here or elsewhere who went to watch a spectacle are lumped into that bracket.

    And i cant the whole Rory Mc ****e was annoying, he doesn't like golf cause its high brow and Rory played a round with Trump bla bla bla

    But Eamon who i enjoy, always have, and enjoy his podcast, for the life of me cant understand how he can have Phillip O'Connor on expaining the history of MMA and fight culture, the Joa carvallo death etc one week, then when speaking to McKenna says ''Didn't someone die in the cage in Ireland last year''

    Joe Brolly, Ewan McKenna, Eamon Dunphy, like to be controversial for that sake of it cause it sells, and they get paid handsomely for it, remind you of anyone.

    The bang on hypocrisy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭ASOT


    Phillip is sound as, and has some real passion for alot of sports and deep knowledge of them and the ability to go back re-watch and learn then educate others whilst speaking so well.

    Brolly in my opinion is still just a narky **** that hasnt got a clue about anything other than GAA, as ASOT said **** about GAA, talking about GAA, and then crying into a pillow

    #hatefilledangerwank

    Atleast Mckenna recognizes it as a sport, and does admire Conor as a fighter, but some of the conclusions he jumped to where miles away from reality. Black wrap culture of ALL Conors fans, that the large majority of Conors fans spent the weekend doing MDMA and sniff, going backwards down escalators. Im not saying some can be **** but i hate that lads here or elsewhere who went to watch a spectacle are lumped into that bracket.

    And i cant the whole Rory Mc ****e was annoying, he doesn't like golf cause its high brow and Rory played a round with Trump bla bla bla

    But Eamon who i enjoy, always have, and enjoy his podcast, for the life of me cant understand how he can have Phillip O'Connor on expaining the history of MMA and fight culture, the Joa carvallo death etc one week, then when speaking to McKenna says ''Didn't someone die in the cage in Ireland last year''

    Joe Brolly, Ewan McKenna, Eamon Dunphy, like to be controversial for that sake of it cause it sells, and they get paid handsomely for it, remind you of anyone.

    The bang on hypocrisy

    Great post mate spot on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,795 ✭✭✭dulux99


    To be honest, the Joe Brolly article didn't really bother me too much. When I saw Joe Brolly had written article on MMA I knew what it was going to be like.

    He's not to be taken seriously, ever. I imagine there's probably a few MMA fans who read it who aren't familiar with his punditry in general, he's always been a sensationalist wind up merchant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 712 ✭✭✭Mean Laqueefa


    dulux99 wrote: »
    To be honest, the Joe Brolly article didn't really bother me too much. When I saw Joe Brolly had written article on MMA I knew what it was going to be like.

    He's not to be taken seriously, ever. I imagine there's probably a few MMA fans who read it who aren't familiar with his punditry in general, he's always been a sensationalist wind up merchant.

    Ive always known what Brolly is but it still angers me.

    People say Conors antics, the post fight brawl, the pre fight verbals etc: set the sport back.

    Id argue that the likes of Brolly and McKenna lumping everyone into the same crowd will set the sport back and only in Ireland. There are still people who respect idiots like them and would shelter the children from i what would be a learning experience in a martial art that with dedication could be a career.

    Dunphy also knows what he is doing, but that mans days of sniff and lilly bordellos benders wasnt spoken about till he mentions it as a badge of honor as and when he see's fit.

    This post was brought to you by Tesco finest, cause Tesco believe the finest conversations deserve the finest food


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,423 ✭✭✭✭Outlaw Pete




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭JacksonHeightsOwn



    I don't ever remember the mcgregor cavalcade getting a police escort to the arena before. I also noticed they where checked for bombs under the car.

    And dare I say, mcgregor looked completely disinterested in the dressing room. Granted, there's probably a mere 30 seconds of that footage, so I'm more than likely reading too much into it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 lesliescott586


    Heard Michael Bisping on Joey Diaz's podcast saying he heard Conor's whiskey is terrible. Haven't tried it myself, seems to be selling well. Anyone here know what it's like before I buy a bottle for 230?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭evolving tipperary


    Heard Michael Bisping on Joey Diaz's podcast saying he heard Conor's whiskey is terrible. Haven't tried it myself, seems to be selling well. Anyone here know what it's like before I buy a bottle for 230?

    Most reviews say it's a standard 3-year old whiskey. It's not a high-end whiskey. It's whiskey for the masses - not an aged whiskey that will blow your mind with flavours and is smooth. It's only just off the market. It's not going to blow you away and it won't kill you either. But don't take my word for it, listen to people who know their whiskey:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzpv3V0jnCs&t=483s


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