Mass shooting New Zealand Mosque - MOD NOTE POST #1

biko wrote: »

That's ok, the most popular youtuber ever don't need your sympathy, nor your smears.

I don't think you can call it a smear. The man uses the n word casually as an insult.

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

interesting discussion on LBC on what motivates these white supremicist/ISIS fruitcakes.
basically they are mirror images of each other.

Both ends of the religious extremist spectrum. One loves the religion too much, the other hates it too much.

El_Bee wrote: »

Again, my point was that even in a country with a lot of restrictions on guns like Ireland, you can still get your hands on high powered weapons, I commented in the gangland thread about how it was a miracle it wasn't a bloodbath in there, given the damage AK/AK variants can do.

It makes buying them extremely expensive. Why do you think it could have been a bloodbath? They were looking for one target and just killed a secondary out of frustration. Killing anyone else would be counterproductive. Why would a drug gang target civilians?

Wheres Me Jumper? wrote: »

and Donald wanting to exclude "all muslims" is likely to feed the sick minds of these tossers. but he doesn't care so long as he gets a cheap cheer from the faithful.
considering the extent to which Americans are weaponised, "leaders" like him are playing with people's lives.

Especially when the ar*ehole went talking about 'invasions' of foreigners quite literally the day after this attack.

Nobody can pretend that was an 'accident' or coincidence. This is what he courts and encourages, even recently bragging about how 'tough' and violent his supporters are willing to be for him, calling far right terrorists and white supremacists 'very fine people', point blank making up Muslim terror attacks that never even happened, and defunding anti terror groups that were noting a strong rise in far right extremism.

This is very much a global issue largely spread online and at this point absolutely needs to rr addressed or it will onl get worse. I 100% guarantee Islamic extremists were delighted this happened just as right wing extremists take delight from Muslim terror attacks, and are in full on recruitment mode because of it.

The big issue here is the battle for the narrative in my opinion. For decades the extremists have mostly been sidelined, allowing the wider spectrum to work toward consensus, with centre left, centre right and 'true' centrists working as a go between for left and right wingers to communicate. The rise of the internet and social media, much like the rise of mass media a century ago (radio became prominent largely in line with the popularity of communism and Fascism which spread across it, and the inventor of the loudspeaker went to his grave feeling guilt for the holocaust as Hitler used it as a means to communicate en masse to his supporters and the wife public), is showing the 'far' sides of the spectrum use the same sorts of lies and scaremongering that caused these huge divisions and breakdown of the centrists role. The use of 'nod and wink' references by the far right can be seen all over, and I have little doubt that the same is true of Islamists in the Muslim online world.

Until we find a way to gravitate people further back to the center and to have stronger critical thinking skills (e.g bullsh*t detectors, and why critical thinking should be heavily incorporated in education from the get go), this will continue to be a problem. One small silver lining (and huge irony given they were the ones who always told us to not believe anything online) at least is that older generations have been shown to be far, far more susceptible to this so younger people may be developing some of these skills naturally, but that is not enough given the perpetrators of these atrocities are typically south of 30. But having hugely prominent national leaders like the president of the US praise these 'very fine' people and goading for more extremism is something that absolutely cannot go on or be tolerated in the interests of anyone and everyone who is not an extremist.

Take The Wheel Jesus wrote: »

What is a 'dogwhistle'?

It’s a whistle that only a dog can hear. Figuratively it means to say something that can be picked up by certain audience.

I’m not sure what this YouTube guy is supposed to be dog whistling about since I know nothing about him.

Looks like someone ready to go play airsolft. He's pandering to the mid-late teens gamers, it's this audience.
What has it got to do with the alt-right?

The man who tackled the gunman has apparently died.