Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

hatrickpatrick · 22-05-2019 9:42pm

nuac wrote: »

BC sustained very serious injuries

What has that got to do with anything though? It was entirely his own fault. Therefore he should have had his case thrown out and legal costs against him. It's that simple.

22-05-2019 9:43pm

that's the point exactly, she has to be told. And if she can knock the claim in the head then that shows her intent was just motivated by greed and self entitlement. This is the problem for her now, it's a lose lose!!! I'd love to see anyone spin it another away!

Like a said, If I have to be ****ed, at least bertie and the likes might buy you a meal first and wear a condom!! this shower will **** you bareback and take your wallet on the way out the door!!!

Suckit · 22-05-2019 9:45pm

NIMAN wrote: »

But back to this halfwit of a woman, she is starting to get a lot of flak on the radio etc, and it's making FG look bad.

I can see Leo telling her to knock the claim on the head.

The damage is done. She is unlikely to get voted in again.

If she drops the case, she loses her lucrative yearly wage by next election, and loses the chance of getting her grubby paws on the €60k (unlikely that she will win anyway).
She only really stands to get her pension - https://www.irishtimes.com/news/just-how-are-ministers-pensions-worked-out-1.559289

Wheeliebin30 · 22-05-2019 9:45pm

rusty cole wrote: »

that's the point exactly, she has to be told. And if she can knock the claim in the head then that shows her intent was just motivated by greed and self entitlement. This is the problem for her now, it's a lose lose!!! I'd love to see anyone spin it another away!

Like a said, If I have to be ****ed, at least bertie and the likes might buy you a meal first and wear a condom!! this shower will **** you bareback and take your wallet on the way out the door!!!

Lovely words.

Bet you don’t talk like that around your kids.

22-05-2019 9:51pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Lovely words.

Bet you don’t talk like that around your kids.

I don't have any not that its anything to do with this thread. sorry snowflake, it;s an emotive topic, go start a #savethechildren group if your that offended.

Wheeliebin30 · 22-05-2019 9:52pm

rusty cole wrote: »

I don't have any not that its anything to do with this thread. sorry snowflake, it;s an emotive topic, go start a #savethechildren group if your that offended.

Snowflake:)

I actually use that term daily and love it so you win this round sir!!

hatrickpatrick · 22-05-2019 9:53pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Lovely words.

Bet you don’t talk like that around your kids.

In fairness, most people don't talk about the judiciary and compensation culture with their kids either, unless their kids are advanced enough to be interested in such conversations, and therefore in all probability also advanced enough to understand the legitimate role of profanity in discourse :pac:

22-05-2019 9:54pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Snowflake:)

I actually use that term daily and love it so you win this round sir!!

I'll see your olive branch then and raise you a handshake

Kivaro · 22-05-2019 9:56pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Lovely words.

Bet you don’t talk like that around your kids.

Wheelie,
You shouldn't underestimate the damage that this woman (in power) and other politicians of similar ilk are doing to our society and to our country.
No wonder then that there is palpable anger when they are caught being the scum that we always suspected them to be.

One of these days, we will rid ourselves of these greedy, self-centered, lying politicians. When that happens, we will find that Children's Hospitals and Rural Broadband projects will not be outrageously priced. We will find a healthcare system that is run for the patients and the public and not for the bureaucratic management and unions.

We need to remember that when we vote.

Wheeliebin30 · 22-05-2019 9:56pm

rusty cole wrote: »

I'll see your olive branch then and raise you a handshake

I’m big enough to know when I’ve lost an argument:)

Wheeliebin30 · 22-05-2019 9:57pm

Kivaro wrote: »

Wheelie,
You shouldn't underestimate the damage that this woman (in power) and other politicians of similar ilk are doing to our society and to our country.
No wonder then that there is palpable anger when they are caught being the scum that we always suspected them to be.

One of these days, we will rid ourselves of these greedy, self-centered, lying politicians. When that happens, we will find that Children's Hospitals and Rural Broadband projects will not be outrageously priced. We will find a healthcare system that is run for the patients and the public and not for the bureaucratic management and unions.

We need to remember that when we vote.

Vote for who though?

Independents, possible but what do they really achieve apart from a few potholes.

McMurphy · 22-05-2019 9:58pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

In fairness, most people don't talk about the judiciary and compensation culture with their kids either, unless their kids are advanced enough to be interested in such conversations, and therefore in all probability also advanced enough to understand the legitimate role of profanity in discourse :pac:

Going by the Da's wiki page, I'd say it's safe to assume that they actually do in the Bailey household.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bailey_(Irish_politician)

I'd say Maria didn't lick it off a stone.

Kivaro · 22-05-2019 10:02pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Vote for who though?

Independents, possible but what do they really achieve apart from a few potholes.

Independents. Otherwise, the current crop of incompetents will continue screwing the country.
Vote Independent to make a point.
A new party of Independents can be formed that reflects the philosophy of the people who elected them. If they don't conform, they are out at the next election.

It is really that simple.

Fann Linn · 22-05-2019 10:06pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Vote for who though?

Independents, possible but what do they really achieve apart from a few potholes.

Could they be any worse than whats on view in this thread?

Stephen15 · 22-05-2019 10:08pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Vote for who though?

Independents, possible but what do they really achieve apart from a few potholes.

That's why there needs to be a true nationalist party. Time for the National Party to step up to fill the gap and act as a party that acts solely in the national interest and nothing else.

pjohnson · 22-05-2019 10:09pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

That's why there needs to be a true nationalist party. Time for the National Party to step up to fill the gap and act as a party that acts solely in the national interest and nothing else.

I thought Renua were meant to be the saviours?

They used to be the party suggested as the good one.

Simple_Simone · 22-05-2019 10:09pm

salmocab wrote: »

You certainly do not have that right, there are actually by-laws against that, she on the other hand is guilty of being an utter moron unfortunately nothing more.

Thank you; I have now edited my post accordingly.

downtheroad · 22-05-2019 10:11pm

downtheroad wrote: »

I just sent the following email to Maria Bailey and copied several of her Fine Gael colleagues. Please feel free to copy and paste if you are in agreement.

Dear Deputy Bailey,

I am writing a short email to advise that due to your decision to take legal action against a Dublin hotel, seeking damages up to €60,000, I will not be voting for any Fine Gael candidate in the upcoming local and European elections this Friday 24th May.

Insurance costs are rising significantly in Ireland due to the volume of compensation claims that are being entered via our legal system, and a compensation culture is creeping into our society. I believe that your high profile case displays a lack of leadership as an elected official, and for this reason I will not be voting for any member of your party this coming Friday, despite doing so in recent elections.

I am copying into this email:
Leo Varadkar TD as leader of Fine Gael
Josepha Madigan TD whose family law firm are representing you in this case
Charlie Flanagan TD as Minister for Justice
Regina Doherty TD who today defended your claim
Councillor Naoise O'Muiri who is standing for election in my electoral ward on 24th May
Jeff Johnston who is standing for election in my electoral ward on 24th May
Frances Fitzgerald TD who is standing for European election on 24th May

Yours sincerely,
downtheroad

Sorry to quote myself but 50 people have thanked this post. If all 50 of you could take 2 minutes to send a similar email to Maria Bailey (maria.bailey@oireachtas.ie) and Leo Varadkar (leo.varadkar@oir.ie) it might hammer home the message. Hopefully a number of you have already done so. Thanks.

Mods, I assume it's ok to include these emails addresses as they are public record but please snip if not appropriate.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 22-05-2019 10:15pm

This case is drawing such a massive negative reaction that Ms Bailey must surely be regretting taking such a ludicrous case which only highlights her greed and utter stupidity.

The best thing she could do now is withdraw her case and hide for a few months and hope people forget how unbelievably stupid she is but I actually hope she continues to pursue it, loses it, has massive costs awarded against her and then loses her seat because people wouldn’t vote for someone so thick that they couldn’t sit on a swing without requiring supervision/instruction.

hatrickpatrick · 22-05-2019 10:16pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Vote for who though?

Independents, possible but what do they really achieve apart from a few potholes.

Independents have no party name to hide behind so they have to do what the public tells them to do, and one of the aspects of this means not doing things that will piss people off. You're probably right in that they'd accomplish less, at least while the dust was settling, but they would also not be able to worsen many problems the way FFG have been doing.

When a car is speeding over a cliff, the most important thing is to hammer the breaks. You can sort out where to drive instead after you've halted the disastrous trajectory you had previously been on. That's something Irish politics desperately needs right now. A lot of the utter disasters FFG are pushing - the mass sell-off of public land for housing to private developers, for example - are policies which need to be stopped urgently, as there is a timeline beyond which it will not be possible to fix the problems they cause. Insurance costs are a similar issue, seeing as like rents and other costs of living, they tend never to reverse - only to stop getting higher. We're probably stuck with high ones in perpetuity now, but we can at least stop them getting any higher than they already are.

hatrickpatrick · 22-05-2019 10:21pm

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

This case is drawing such a massive negative reaction that Ms Bailey must surely be regretting taking such a ludicrous case which only highlights her greed and utter stupidity.

The best thing she could do now is withdraw her case and hide for a few months and hope people forget how unbelievably stupid she is but I actually hope she continues to pursue it, loses it, has massive costs awarded against her and then loses her seat because people wouldn’t vote for someone so thick that they couldn’t sit on a swing without requiring supervision/instruction.

The Twitter replies to her last pre-story tweet are hilarious, so many memes

https://twitter.com/garlittle/status/1131186868639477761

https://twitter.com/KevinCa47989229/status/1131285345063055360

https://twitter.com/DHaych80/status/1130947154707660800

https://twitter.com/RobMcG87/status/1130891541885739008

https://twitter.com/susie_yaps/status/1131263746444275712

McCrack · 22-05-2019 10:22pm

I know popular opinion is against claims yet I know most people would be straight down to a solicitor if they suffered an injury arising from negligence

In this case the swing should not be in a pub, swings are normally in playgrounds

Putting a swing in a pub invites drunk people onto it and drunk people can fall injuring themselves. Pubs selling alcohol have a duty of care and providing a swing on their premises in my view breaches that

Kivaro · 22-05-2019 10:23pm

downtheroad wrote: »

Sorry to quote myself but 50 people have thanked this post. If all 50 of you could take 2 minutes to send a similar email to Maria Bailey (maria.bailey@oireachtas.ie) and Leo Varadkar (leo.varadkar@oir.ie) it might hammer home the message. Hopefully a number of you have already done so. Thanks.

Mods, I assume it's ok to include these emails addresses as they are public record but please snip if not appropriate.

I've done this already today, and encourage others to do the same.

McMurphy · 22-05-2019 10:27pm

McCrack wrote: »

I know popular opinion is against claims yet I know most people would be straight down to a solicitor if they suffered an injury arising from negligence

In this case the swing should not be in a pub, swings are normally in playgrounds

Putting a swing in a pub invites drunk people onto it and drunk people can fall injuring themselves. Pubs selling alcohol have a duty of care and providing a swing on their premises in my view breaches that

Been done.

Johnny Dogs wrote: »

Aha, I see the potential problems now with Ms Bailey's claim, she should be arguing that a drunk person may fall off a swing, that belongs in a children's playground.

Problem is - I didn't see anywhere in the report where she claimed she was drunk.

Just a claim that she wasn't to be trusted unsupervised on a device usually found in kids playgrounds without signage instructing her how to properly use something the rest of us mastered as toddlers.

The culture Ministers ex law firm will hopefully pick up on this now too and change the grounds for the claim.

Jesus H Christ.

Plumbthedepths · 22-05-2019 10:28pm

McCrack wrote:

Putting a swing in a pub invites drunk people onto it and drunk people can fall injuring themselves. Pubs selling alcohol have a duty of care and providing a swing on their premises in my view breaches that

Has it been confirmed that Maria was drunk?

McMurphy · 22-05-2019 10:31pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

The Twitter replies to her last pre-story tweet are hilarious, so many memes

https://twitter.com/garlittle/status/1131186868639477761

https://twitter.com/KevinCa47989229/status/1131285345063055360

https://twitter.com/DHaych80/status/1130947154707660800

https://twitter.com/RobMcG87/status/1130891541885739008

https://twitter.com/susie_yaps/status/1131263746444275712

https://twitter.com/JoyGall13/status/1130442014888255488?s=19

https://twitter.com/dhv938d/status/1130758095435706368?s=19

https://twitter.com/DamienCrean/status/1131154732398055424?s=19

Kivaro · 22-05-2019 10:33pm

We are just going to have to start Bailey-proofing common items that we interact with on a daily basis.

All dining room chairs will require a seat-belt; lest we fall off it.
Knifes and forks will be banned; 2 pieces of non-pointy sticks will have to do.
And we'll Bailey-proof our toilet seats by attaching a harness to the cistern; lest we fall off. This process will require supervision though at all times, including after the flush.

stampydmonkey · 22-05-2019 10:33pm

dubrov wrote: »

Does anyone know who managed the hospital tenders?
Do FG bring in their own people or is it run via the civil service?

Hospital was Arup consulting engineers

In all in anyways · 22-05-2019 10:39pm

I know we probably don't know all the facts, maybe the swing broke? If not, then this is pretty incredible and not a good reflection on the government!!

Pythagorean · 22-05-2019 10:40pm

Cee-Jay-Cee wrote: »

This case is drawing such a massive negative reaction that Ms Bailey must surely be regretting taking such a ludicrous case which only highlights her greed and utter stupidity.

The best thing she could do now is withdraw her case and hide for a few months and hope people forget how unbelievably stupid she is but I actually hope she continues to pursue it, loses it, has massive costs awarded against her and then loses her seat because people wouldn’t vote for someone so thick that they couldn’t sit on a swing without requiring supervision/instruction.

In one way, I hope the silly bitch gets a payout. This would make international news, show our compo culture to the world at large, make us a right laughing stock. Then we might see some action taken to tackle the compo culture ( out of sheer embarrassment)

Plumbthedepths · 22-05-2019 10:43pm

In all in anyways wrote:

I know we probably don't know all the facts, maybe the swing broke? If not, then this is pretty incredible and not a good reflection on the government!!

The swing didn't break Bailey fell off as her hands were full and not holding on according to the hotel. She claims she should have been supervised. If the case has got this far PIAB either refused a payment / it was not enough for Bailey or the hotels insurance company is going to fight Bailey. Insurance companies normally only do this if they know they'll win. Either ways terrible PR for Bailey and by extension FG

hatrickpatrick · 22-05-2019 10:46pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

The swing didn't break Bailey fell off as her hands were full and not holding on according to the hotel. She claims she should have been supervised. If the case has got this far PIAB either refused a payment / it was not enough for Bailey or the hotels insurance company is going to fight Bailey. Insurance companies normally only do this if they know they'll win. Either ways terrible PR for Bailey and by extension FG

Don't know about anyone else in this thread, but I for one have sat in that swing dozens, if not hundreds of times since nights out in Sophies became a thing, I don't think I've ever actually held on to the ropes and I've never done myself even the slightest injury. A massive number of my social circle regularly go to the same place, and my Instagram is regularly filled with photos of people on those swings, generally not holding on to the ropes either.

She must be either incredibly clumsy, or she must have been completely and totally piddley-eyed to fall off. Either way, 100% not the hotel's fault.

I can easily see nights out in Sophie's ruined by this if she wins. We'll end up with some bouncer standing next to the swings and shouting at anyone not sitting on them properly, a la Father Ted's "keep your hands on the sides!!!" funland ladder sketch :mad:

angel eyes 2012 · 22-05-2019 10:48pm

In all in anyways wrote: »

I know we probably don't know all the facts, maybe the swing broke? If not, then this is pretty incredible and not a good reflection on the government!!

And so what if it did? You just get up and get on with it. I'm not usually a reactionary voter or anti government for no reason but this is disgraceful and if any Fine Gael candidate canvasses me I'll ask them straight out what their opinion is on swing-gate.

I just read up on her father and he appears to have a litany of controversies throughout his political life. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree but if it did, Ms. Bailey would probably sue the tree....

Supcycle · 22-05-2019 10:49pm

Laughable

hatrickpatrick · 22-05-2019 10:51pm

McCrack wrote: »

I know popular opinion is against claims yet I know most people would be straight down to a solicitor if they suffered an injury arising from negligence

In this case the swing should not be in a pub, swings are normally in playgrounds

Putting a swing in a pub invites drunk people onto it and drunk people can fall injuring themselves. Pubs selling alcohol have a duty of care and providing a swing on their premises in my view breaches that

The bolded bit is the part I and I'm sure many others would disagree with. If you can't handle your drink it should be your responsibility to choose to refrain from certain behaviours, nobody else's. The pub should have a duty to do absolutely nothing except call an ambulance if someone has an accident thanks to their own f*ckwittery.

Do shops selling cigarettes or fattening foods have a duty of care? Should you be able to sue the newsagents if you get cancer after buying a packet of 20 every day for the last five years? Feck off with that sh!te, in my view.

Plumbthedepths · 22-05-2019 10:52pm

hatrickpatrick wrote:

Don't know about anyone else in this thread, but I for one have sat in that swing dozens, if not hundreds of times since nights out in Sophies became a thing, I don't think I've ever actually held on to the ropes and I've never done myself even the slightest injury. A massive number of my social circle regularly go to the same place, and my Instagram is regularly filled with photos of people on those swings, generally not holding on to the ropes either.

Every child ever that has sat on a swing was told to hold on. Any adult that would sit on a swing would know to hold on and most if they fell off would laugh it off as their own stupidity and feel slightly embarrassed, however our betters such as M Bailey believes she should be compensated for her own stupidity. She and a**holes like her are why festivals/businesses etc are closing being cancelled due to insurance costs.

Balanadan · 22-05-2019 10:54pm

In all in anyways wrote: »

I know we probably don't know all the facts, maybe the swing broke? If not, then this is pretty incredible and not a good reflection on the government!!

Many people have already said that the swing didn’t break. Even if it did, most people would have the decency to chalk it down as an accident and not take someone to court over it. I feel genuinely sorry for the owners/managers of the hotel that they have to deal with this court case.

punisher5112 · 22-05-2019 10:55pm

Does anything actually surprise any of you anymore seriously like....

We have laws which aren't followed or implemented unless you work and they can hit your pocket, murderers walking free.

Example guy kills 2 men with a screw driver, he is out on day release to see family and how is this even allowed....
These absolute monster is a dangerous extremely dangerous individual....

We have the young girl murdered and tortured by 2 young 13 year olds and they will never see real time or have to answer for their sick crimes then we have bailey and the compo culture which you could well mistake with those in the ethnic minorities and their insurance scams ....

I actually dont trust the green party or believe they should even still exist but Eamon Ryan was on the radio today actually shouting down this madness stating basically we are fooked if this is awarded... Suppose similar to the award to the girl whom thought it was perfectly fine to hold onto the side door of a team and then awarded a cool half a million.... Brain damage etc but still well able to have a kid....

This fookin country and its legal system is a farce.....

Again another complete scammer..,

Odyssey 2005 · 22-05-2019 11:03pm

This bint will cost the FG party many thousands of votes. Couldn't have come at a better time for them. Hope she loses her shirt (shes already lost a seat )

Plumbthedepths · 22-05-2019 11:06pm

Mairim Lord has an opinion piece in the Times about this, some of the comments are hilarious. It's getting legs, I'd say party HQ is fuming with Bailey.

Stephen15 · 22-05-2019 11:09pm

McCrack wrote: »

I know popular opinion is against claims yet I know most people would be straight down to a solicitor if they suffered an injury arising from negligence

In this case the swing should not be in a pub, swings are normally in playgrounds

Putting a swing in a pub invites drunk people onto it and drunk people can fall injuring themselves. Pubs selling alcohol have a duty of care and providing a swing on their premises in my view breaches that

The claim is completely ridiculous in my opinion but I would agree with you that a swing has no place in a pub/restaurant. It appears to be another one of those stupid hipstery gimmicks that places use to attract customers not because they are serving good food and well run but because they use have a load of stupid gimmicks to make them trendy such as serving cocktails in jam jars, food on slates rather than plates and chips in metal baskets that make them go soggy.

Any pub/restaurant that provides adult swings is only asking for trouble if you ask me.

Odyssey 2005 · 22-05-2019 11:13pm

https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/news/courts/hunt-accident-horse-riders-loses-high-court-case-against-hunt-and-land-owner-38122293.html

Another clown from a recent thread on boards

Wheeliebin30 · 22-05-2019 11:19pm

I must say the journal/boards have done a serious hatchet job on FG in the last 24 hours.

4 headlines about FG candidates on the journal.

Nothing on any other party!!

Leaving aside this idiotic woman it does make you wonder.

Plumbthedepths · 22-05-2019 11:23pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote:

it does make you wonder.

Nope not really. They're the government.

Wheeliebin30 · 22-05-2019 11:24pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Nope not really. They're the government.

Who is?

FG?

Wrong.

hatrickpatrick · 22-05-2019 11:24pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

I must say the journal/boards have done a serious hatchet job on FG in the last 24 hours.

4 headlines about FG candidates on the journal.

Nothing on any other party!!

Leaving aside this idiotic woman it does make you wonder.

Have you considered the possibility that FG are and have been utterly gaffe-prone since coming to power in 2011, primarily because (a) they don’t know anything about good PR, and (b) they’re so out of touch that they don’t give a bollocks if they come across like a bunch of entitled bollockses?

Wheeliebin30 · 22-05-2019 11:26pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Have you considered the possibility that FG are and have been utterly gaffe-prone since coming to power in 2011, primarily because (a) they don’t know anything about good PR, and (b) they’re so out of touch that they don’t give a bollocks if they come across like a bunch of entitled bollockses?

I just think it’s funny the usual brigade think there is some media conspiracy in favour of FG when it’s clear that is not the case as seen by the last 24 hours.

Bit of perspective.

theoneeyedman · 22-05-2019 11:26pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

The claim is completely ridiculous in my opinion but I would agree with you that a swing has no place in a pub/restaurant. It appears to be another one of those stupid hipstery gimmicks that places use to attract customers not because they are serving good food and well run but because they use have a load of stupid gimmicks to make them trendy such as serving cocktails in jam jars, food on slates rather than plates and chips in metal baskets that make them go soggy.

Any pub/restaurant that provides adult swings is only asking for trouble if you ask me.

Hipstery gimmicks.... Trying to look trendy.... Superficial sh1te with no real substance... Gimmicky rather than being well ran and delivering a good service..... One wonders what would attract Leo and the Blueshirts to this hotel in the first place!

Plumbthedepths · 22-05-2019 11:27pm

Wheeliebin30 wrote:

Who is?

What

Wheeliebin30 wrote:

FG?

Yeah that's how you spell FG

Wheeliebin30 wrote:

Wrong.

So FG are the government.
As an aside any of the 'hatchet' jobs untrue?

Wheeliebin30 · 22-05-2019 11:28pm

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

What

Yeah that's how you spell FG

So FG are the government.
As an aside any of the 'hatchet' jobs untrue?

Well there is others who aren’t in FG that are in government.

Are you been serious here?

Fine Gael TD sues Dublin Hotel after falling off swing

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