Ireland 7s route to Rio

FishorSeal · 07-06-2015 5:28pm

Hi lads. What is the likely standard of the teams who stand between Ireland and the last place in Rio?

VillaMad · 07-06-2015 5:48pm

FishorSeal wrote: »

Hi lads. What is the likely standard of the teams who stand between Ireland and the last place in Rio?

It will be very tough for Ireland to make it as there will only be 1 spot available so they would have to win everything against sides that will have experience and know-how at this.

Next up for Ireland is the Division B tournament which takes place in a fortnight.

They have to win that Tournament to participate in the Rugby Europe Olympic Repechage tournament in Lisbon on July 18-19.

The winners of that tournament then qualify for the World Olympic Repechage and the winners of that tournament qualify for Rio.

Melodeon · 07-06-2015 5:54pm

Will the Division B tournament be televised here in Ireland, does anyone know?

bradders90 · 07-06-2015 9:51pm

Melodeon wrote: »

Will the Division B tournament be televised here in Ireland, does anyone know?

Not on irish TV, rugby europe (the organisation running it) may be streaming it online through Youtube or DailyMotion though.

Larbre34 · 07-06-2015 11:54pm

Its some schedule they have, if they get through the Division B, the european repechage is in Lisbon in mid-July, that will be cruel hot.

irishbucsfan · 08-06-2015 10:17am

Larbre34 wrote: »

Its some schedule they have, if they get through the Division B, the european repechage is in Lisbon in mid-July, that will be cruel hot.

Ah its not that bad. I spent a few years in that part of the world. It'll likely be low to mid 20s, it's coastal though and humidity is much lower than somewhere like the States for example, if it was in a southern state in America they'd be worse off! I'd say the temperature might actually be ideal.

I think that'll be the least of their worries. I'd love it if they made the World Repetage, that could be a great competition, maybe more on the line than any other previous competition in the sport!

.ak · 08-06-2015 10:21am

Must make a promise to myself to get down to Kinsale next year for the 7s. Never played it, my fitness is probably too bad for it as is my one-on-one tackling, but I'd say it's a great laugh all together, especially if you string a few offloads together.

Larbre34 · 08-06-2015 12:28pm

Yeah it will be interesting to see what mark they hit in terms of teams they are competitive with. None of those Division B nations would be rugby heartlands. I think the fitness of the group is certainly showing, having the lads sourced from with top S&C programmes in the provinces is a massive advantage.

Between this and the 20s its a great bit of entertainment in the off-season.

The Lost Sheep · 08-06-2015 2:43pm

.ak wrote: »

Must make a promise to myself to get down to Kinsale next year for the 7s. Never played it, my fitness is probably too bad for it as is my one-on-one tackling, but I'd say it's a great laugh all together, especially if you string a few offloads together.

Or go to Clifden for Connemara 7s. Its great laugh. Horrible to ref but great for summer fitness and skills worK

The Lost Sheep · 08-06-2015 10:13pm

FishorSeal wrote: »

Hi lads. What is the likely standard of the teams who stand between Ireland and the last place in Rio?

Kenya will most likely be the African rep and they'll be tough to beat. Australia/Samoa from Oceania, Uruguay/Chile from South America all tricky especially Oceania sides.

Melodeon wrote: »

Will the Division B tournament be televised here in Ireland, does anyone know?

Not a hope but there should be highlights on rugby Europe's website/dailymotion page etc

Larbre34 wrote: »

Yeah it will be interesting to see what mark they hit in terms of teams they are competitive with. None of those Division B nations would be rugby heartlands. I think the fitness of the group is certainly showing, having the lads sourced from with top S&C programmes in the provinces is a massive advantage.

Between this and the 20s its a great bit of entertainment in the off-season.

Plenty history in quite few of these countries but primarily ex-pats... Having pro's will help but shame nobody was picked from the Talent Identification days...

The Lost Sheep · 10-06-2015 3:17pm

Women's squad starting their attempt to qualify for Rio this weekend.
http://www.munsterrugby.ie/domestic/news/20744
The European Championship is in Russia this weekend and in France the weekend after. The winner qualifies for the Olympics.

If Ireland does not win the European Championship qualification is possible through the World Repechage. To qualify for the World Repechage Ireland team must:
a. Finish as the runner up of the 2015 European Championship or
b. Finish in the top three of the European Repechage (Lisbon July 2015).

The winner of the 2016 World Repechage will qualify for the Olympics.

Squad is
Claire Keohane (UL Bohemian/Munster)
Jenny Murphy (Old Belvedere/Leinster)
Lucy Mulhall (TID) Capt
Stacey Flood (Railway Union/Leinster)
Shannon Houston (Blackrock/Leinster)
Megan Williams (St. Mary's/Leinster)
Amee-Leigh Murphy Crowe (St Mary's/Leinster)
Katie Fitzhenry (Blackrock/Leinster)
Claire Molloy (Bristol/Connacht)
Eimear Considine (TID)
Louise Galvin (UL Bohemian/Munster)
Alison Miller (Portlaoise/Connacht)

The Lost Sheep · 11-06-2015 1:14pm

GB announce the details of their Olympic Programme and how to be eligible etc
Wonder if any 15s players will go for the GB team

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_52200,00.html

There will be a union between the Rugby Football Union, the Welsh Rugby Union and the Scottish Rugby Union.
Joe Lydon, the RFU’s Head of International Player Development, will lead on the jointly run programmes as performance manager.

To be eligible for selection, athletes must hold a British passport and should have previous sevens experience at international level having played in any one or more of the following tournaments in the 14-month period prior to the Rio 2016 Olympic Games: World Series, Rugby Europe Int tournaments, Invitational tournament
Eligible players will be required to express their interest in being selected through their respective home union’s performance programmes.

exiledelbows · 11-06-2015 4:12pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

GB announce the details of their Olympic Programme and how to be eligible etc
Wonder if any 15s players will go for the GB team

http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_52200,00.html

There will be a union between the Rugby Football Union, the Welsh Rugby Union and the Scottish Rugby Union.
Joe Lydon, the RFU’s Head of International Player Development, will lead on the jointly run programmes as performance manager.

To be eligible for selection, athletes must hold a British passport and should have previous sevens experience at international level having played in any one or more of the following tournaments in the 14-month period prior to the Rio 2016 Olympic Games: World Series, Rugby Europe Int tournaments, Invitational tournament
Eligible players will be required to express their interest in being selected through their respective home union’s performance programmes.

Glad to see there seems to be a lot more maturity being shown towards this from the Welsh and Scots than there was for the GB football team pre-2012.

The Lost Sheep · 13-06-2015 2:08pm

Womens 7s rugby side have lost both their opening games. Lost to Spain 24-12 and France 20-7. Last game of the day is against Ukraine

Mens Wolfhound 7s side have won their first two games of this weekends GB 7s in Colwyn Bay against Welsh Charitables 43-0 and Co-Optimist 22-19. Final Pool game is against Samurai

The Lost Sheep · 13-06-2015 5:22pm

Wolfhounds side have got to final in Colwyn Bay. They play Samurai, already confirmed as GB 7s series champions, in that final

irishbucsfan · 13-06-2015 6:20pm

Any word on who is playing well for the Wolfhounds?

Women's 7s team through to the quarter finals tomorrow, they play England who will be tough I'm sure.

The Lost Sheep · 13-06-2015 6:33pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Any word on who is playing well for the Wolfhounds?

Women's 7s team through to the quarter finals tomorrow, they play England who will be tough I'm sure.

Nothing really on who'd playing well. Mainly just results so far.

Dont see Womens side beating England. England too strong. Highlights of this will be up on rugby europe site monday...

The Lost Sheep · 14-06-2015 10:51am

Women lost to England 17-14 losing to try in last second.
Playing for fifth place now. Play Italy next

The Lost Sheep · 14-06-2015 6:26pm

Ireland beat Italy 31-5 and beat Holland 14-10 in Plate final.
Women's team are in fifth place after round 1 of European series...

connemara man · 14-06-2015 7:59pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Ireland beat Italy 31-5 and beat Holland 14-10 in Plate final.
Women's team are in fifth place after round 1 of European series...

How are Ireland doing in regards qualification? I'm guessing the women are kinda out of it.

The Lost Sheep · 14-06-2015 8:10pm

connemara man wrote: »

How are Ireland doing in regards qualification? I'm guessing the women are kinda out of it.

We won the plate this weekend so are in fifth overall in the Grand Prix series(European Championship) behind the four cup semi finalists.
If Ireland does not win the European Championship qualification is possible through the World Repechage. To qualify for the World Repechage Ireland team must:
a. Finish as the runner up of the 2015 European Championship or
b. Finish in the top three of the European Repechage (played in Lisbon in July).

connemara man · 14-06-2015 8:20pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

We won the plate this weekend so are in fifth overall in the Grand Prix series(European Championship) behind the four cup semi finalists.
If Ireland does not win the European Championship qualification is possible through the World Repechage. To qualify for the World Repechage Ireland team must:
a. Finish as the runner up of the 2015 European Championship or
b. Finish in the top three of the European Repechage (played in Lisbon in July).

All I've seen or heard are the updates here how do they look? Is it feasible with how they are playing?

The Lost Sheep · 15-06-2015 12:20am

connemara man wrote: »

All I've seen or heard are the updates here how do they look? Is it feasible with how they are playing?

I haven't seen too many clips etc but they more than likely wont qualify IMO. Just too many teams in Europe and then across world who have been core status and playing 7s much longer.

connemara man · 15-06-2015 12:34am

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

I haven't seen too many clips etc but they more than likely wont qualify IMO. Just too many teams in Europe and then across world who have been core status and playing 7s much longer.

Last question I promise. Are there match reports or highlights released or just scores?

The Lost Sheep · 17-06-2015 9:09pm

connemara man wrote: »

Last question I promise. Are there match reports or highlights released or just scores?

Just results of games. Wouldn't really be match reports done up for 7s. There is highlights on some other forums I think....

France have won both legs of mens grand prix series and are 6 points ahead of Spain ahead of next months(11/12 july) leg of GP series which is on in Exeter. France should seal the European qualification spot at that to join Brazil, Fiji, South Africa, New Zealand, Great Britain*, Argentina and United States in Rio. Asian/Oceanic and African qualifiers are not until November

Uruguay, Chile, Canada, Mexico have all qualified for the World Repechage so far.

The Lost Sheep · 18-06-2015 12:46pm

Squad for this weekend
http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/34832.php#.VYKuTqNOPcs

Adam Byrne (UCD/Leinster)
Aaron Cairns (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
Tom Daly (Lansdowne/ Leinster) Capt
Ian Fitzpatrick (Lansdowne/Leinster)
Terry Kennedy (St Mary's/ Leinster)
Shane Layden (Buccaneers/ Connacht)
Gearoid Lyons (Young Munster/ Munster)
Diarmuid McCarthy (Young Munster/Munster)
David McGuigan (Ballynahinch/Ulster)
Harry McNulty (UCD/Leinster)
Mark Roche (Lansdowne/ Leinster)
Alex Wootton (Garryowen/Munster)

Rugby Europe Men's Division B Match Schedule (All times are local)
Saturday 20th June
11.28 Slovenia v Ireland
13.22 Bulgaria v Ireland
16.22 Ireland v Austria

Ireland Women's Sevens Squad (Round 2, European Olympic Qualifiers – Brive, France, 20 - 21 June)
Shannon Houston (Blackrock/ Leinster)
Audrey O' Flynn (TID)
Nicole Cronin (Shannon/ Munster)
Amee-Leigh Murphy Crowe (St Mary's/ Leinster)
Eimear Considine (TID)
Ashleigh Baxter (Cook/ Ulster)
Katie Fitzhenry (Blackrock/ Leinster)
Claire Keohane (UL Bohemian/ Munster)
Lucy Mulhall (TID) Capt
Claire Molloy (Bristol/ Connacht)
Louise Galvin (UL Bohemian/ Munster)
Alison Miller (Portlaoise/ Connacht)

Ireland Women's Sevens Fixtures (All times are Local)
Saturday, 20th June
11.50 - Ireland v Scotland
14.50 – Ireland v Germany
17.28 - Ireland v England
Sunday, 21st June
Play-offs

VillaMad · 20-06-2015 11:17am

Brilliant start for the Irish ladies.

Ireland 56-0 Scotland.

The men begin their tournament at 11:28.

VillaMad · 20-06-2015 11:46am

And a great start for the men's team as they easily trash Slovenia 54-0.

The gulf in skill level was massive as they ran in 8 tries.

VillaMad · 20-06-2015 1:41pm

And they have just beaten Bulgaria by 64-0.

It was funny actually as the first three tries were scored after just 2 minutes when Bulgaria didn't even touch the ball as Ireland kept winning their own restarts. They were 40 nil up at half-time which is pretty incredible in just 7 minutes of rugby. Eased off slightly in the second half but Ireland are far, far too good for these sides.

What I have seen of the other teams, Ireland should have no problems winning the tournament this weekend.

ken76 · 20-06-2015 3:38pm

Thanks for the updates Villmad, where are you getting the reports from? Can you keep giving the scores etc if you have time please? Thanks

The Lost Sheep · 20-06-2015 3:55pm

ken76 wrote: »

Thanks for the updates Villmad, where are you getting the reports from? Can you keep giving the scores etc if you have time please? Thanks

All scores are being given by IRFU's account on twiter.

VillaMad · 20-06-2015 3:58pm

Games are been streamed on youtube.

Can't post the link as I don't have enough posts but if you copy and paste '[LIVE STREAM] European Rugby 7's - Zagreb 2015. (day 1)' into youtube, it should be the first link.

VillaMad · 20-06-2015 4:20pm

Ireland up now against Austria in their final group game and last game of the day.

ken76 · 20-06-2015 4:24pm

thanks again Villamad,found the stream

irishbucsfan · 20-06-2015 4:26pm

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzlsck8WKRw

ken76 · 20-06-2015 4:27pm

This is a farce,Irish running in unopposed

irishbucsfan · 20-06-2015 4:30pm

This team could be in for a rude awakening when we hit a series team, but I'm going to live in hope until that point.

Buer · 20-06-2015 4:32pm

Not sure if this is entertaining or a bit pathetic. The Austrians look like they're at J1 level, just about. If Ireland get clean ball, they just run in a try.

VillaMad · 20-06-2015 4:34pm

Buer wrote: »

Not sure if this is entertaining or a bit pathetic. The Austrians look like they're at J1 level, just about. If Ireland get clean ball, they just run in a try.

It's been like this all day.

Bulgaria were much worse.

Ireland had to start at the bottom of the ladder, so this is the bottom of the ladder.

ken76 · 20-06-2015 4:35pm

When we get the the Lisbon tournament, will it still be the same 7s squad or could we put in more academy players?Or some bigger guns ? Or is this the squad we are sticking with? Why did Ireland leave it so late to try and qualify ?

ken76 · 20-06-2015 4:39pm

I wonder do Austria know that they are allowed tackle?

irishbucsfan · 20-06-2015 4:43pm

ken76 wrote: »

I wonder do Austria know that they are allowed tackle?

Of course they do, they're amateurs playing against some professionals, it's not really fair to criticise them. It would be like Leinster playing against a Junior side.

irishbucsfan · 20-06-2015 4:46pm

Buer wrote: »

Not sure if this is entertaining or a bit pathetic. The Austrians look like they're at J1 level, just about. If Ireland get clean ball, they just run in a try.

They're below J1 standard, having first hand experience in one of these countries. They're physically at about the same standard, fitter if anything, as our junior sides but the standard of coaching is a lot lower, obviously the language barrier plays a big role in that as in countries like Bulgaria the guys aren't all fluent in English (although more and more it's becoming the case) and there are no countries which produce coaches that speak their language. It makes it very hard for a foreign coach to do anything too complex.

ken76 · 20-06-2015 4:50pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Of course they do, they're amateurs playing against some professionals, it's not really fair to criticise them. It would be like Leinster playing against a Junior side.

Yeah I shouldnt of been smart, I just haven't seen anything like that since school

The Lost Sheep · 20-06-2015 5:17pm

ken76 wrote: »

When we get the the Lisbon tournament, will it still be the same 7s squad or could we put in more academy players? Or some bigger guns? Or is this the squad we are sticking with? Why did Ireland leave it so late to try and qualify?

I will guess it will be virtually the same squad. What bigger guns would you have in mind?
IRFU didn't look at 7s for a variety of reasons and the sport going global through the Olympics forced them, to an extent, into competing.
Even if we had started a year or two ago we would have been unlikely to qualify for the Olympics

irishbucsfan wrote: »

They're below J1 standard, having first hand experience in one of these countries. They're physically at about the same standard, fitter if anything, as our junior sides but the standard of coaching is a lot lower, obviously the language barrier plays a big role in that as in countries like Bulgaria the guys aren't all fluent in English (although more and more it's becoming the case) and there are no countries which produce coaches that speak their language. It makes it very hard for a foreign coach to do anything too complex.

Theyre about j1/j2 standard. The coaching is lower but simply time and experience of playing the sport is the biggest thing. Ive seen it a lot with americans, ive refereed and coached, playing teams here

ken76 · 20-06-2015 5:46pm

When I say bigger guns, I would mean players who won't be considered for WC squad.Cian Kelleher, Andrew Conway, Fionn Carr etc etc would make great 7s players and I'm sure they wouldn't mind a trio to Rio

The Lost Sheep · 20-06-2015 6:24pm

ken76 wrote: »

When I say bigger guns, I would mean players who won't be considered for WC squad.Cian Kelleher, Andrew Conway, Fionn Carr etc etc

I highly doubt any of those guys for a variety of reasons will be looked at. Kelleher is likely to be involved in pro12 during WC and Conway is similar so wont be playing 7s

The Lost Sheep · 20-06-2015 9:11pm

Women's side play France in quarters tomorrow.

Mens side are top seeds for tomorrows knockout stages. Don't know time/who they play in that yet

irishbucsfan · 20-06-2015 9:19pm

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Women's side play France in quarters tomorrow.

Mens side are top seeds for tomorrows knockout stages. Don't know time/who they play in that yet

They play Malta, it's the first game up I believe.

Croatia won 3 games and didn't concede any points either, so we might see a good final perhaps.

They started at 11 this morning, so it may be a fair assumption the game will be then.

irishbucsfan · 21-06-2015 10:44am

So Ireland beat Malta... 76-0...

Semi-final is against Slovenia who we beat 54-0 in the group stages. That will be later this afternoon.

The other semi is Croatia and Serbia, the other two group winners. A Croatia-Ireland final might be worth watching this evening.

Ireland 7s route to Rio

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