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20-05-2019, 17:43   #61
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'Copper' .22 rounds are solid lead with a thin copper wash over them. You can scrape it off with your nail.
Not necessarily

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20-05-2019, 17:52   #62
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I had just copied a similar link to paste it on this thread haha
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Can't see it for sale in ireland from a Web search anyway
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21-05-2019, 00:19   #65
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One offering in this ammo type does not meaning anything in fact it demonstrates that no real alternative has yet been found.

They'd be better served dealing with plastics that are causing real issues than worrying about a natural metal that's used on every roof in the land and Km's of drinking water pipes.

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02-06-2019, 22:48   #66
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They will fire steel shot but they will have to be proofed to say it's safe to fire steel. It's only newer guns that are proofed for steel.
The older ones will need to be sent to England to be proofed as we have no proof house in this country.



Hi ,I'm just wondering what all is involved in proofing a shotgun.

Is it just firing some specific heavy loads through it in a controlled jig or something and then checking it for fractures or cracks?

Would it not be the case that a lighter proofed one would not explode right away and would only fail with prolonged use?

My own is stamped 65 MPa , I wonder if it was only tested to that or did they carry on testing to higher pressures in the factory till they determined the failing point?

It's fixed choke half and full so I guess it's not suitable for steel shot anyway.

Just some thoughts I have about it
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02-06-2019, 22:59   #67
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I seen pictures of barrels online that look like they have had straight rifling cut along them, wear from steel shot. Anyone i heard of using steel shot on game thought they were a very poor substitute for lead, lots of wounded birds.
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I seen pictures of barrels online that look like they have had straight rifling cut along them, wear from steel shot. Anyone i heard of using steel shot on game thought they were a very poor substitute for lead, lots of wounded birds.
Personally I found that when shooting pigeons with steel shot I could get clean reliable kills only as far as 2/3 of the range I would reliably drop them with lead shot.
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Ok so, doing a bit of research and I've got two shot guns in hand.
The semi is good to go, manufactured / proofed and supplied with chokes (big difference in diameter between say a Mod Steel and Mod Lead choke tube) for steel shot. No problems as to function and safety.
The O/U (French make) of undetermined age as yet, but the proof marks began in 1923. The model of the shoot gun starts around the late 60's but I suspect the shotgun itself is date around the early 1980's. The gun has 70mm chambers, Full & 1/2 chokes and is stamped 1,200 BAR.
From what I'm reading (multiple international agencies and gun articles) the O/U should be good to go for Standard Steel Shot in both barrels:
'Standard Steel cartridges can be fired through
any gun proved to the standard level (ie most “Nitro” proved guns, proved to at least 930 bar) and through any choke'.
( https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&sourc...olGPhhRRtpQAt).
(BE AWARE: even with steel shot proofed guns it is not recommended to use a choke greater than a half for shot sizes BB (4.1mm) or larger).

Am I reading this right or am I missing something?
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Shin Fein doing abit of bandwagon jumping on this issue?Or something more?

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news...wner-dialogue/
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Shin Fein doing abit of bandwagon jumping on this issue?Or something more?

Maybe he just earning his corn I give him the benefit of the doubt on this one
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Shin Fein doing abit of bandwagon jumping on this issue?Or something more?

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news...wner-dialogue/
He's rural so he may actually be really representing the opinion of his electorate. An uncommon trait in a politician truth be told.....
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This has not gone away, and after reading this, it shows what we're up against. The remarks at the bottom by the councillors, shows the type of idiots we vote for to represent us.

https://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/n...shot-down.html
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31-07-2019, 19:45   #74
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This has not gone away, and after reading this, it shows what we're up against. The remarks at the bottom by the councillors, shows the type of idiots we vote for to represent us.

https://www.leinsterleader.ie/news/n...shot-down.html



I should probably not be surprised any more about the level of ignorance surrounding shooting sports in Ireland.


The picture that the article leads with is quite frankly insulting.
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There is an article in the Anglo celt that's far more informative and accurate. I cant link it from where I am now maybe Nec could post it
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