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o1s1n · 05-08-2012 8:07pm

Woohooo! Finally fixed that problem with my arcade monitor

I thought I'd sit down properly with this guide and give it a go

http://wiki.arcadeotaku.com/w/How_to_Correctly_Set_Up_Monitor_Colours_and_Brightness

Got stuck at the cut off part though - it was like there were not cut off pots. I finally found them, and they were all in the off position!! Giant 'wtf?!' from me.

Whoever owned this cab before me didn't know the cut off pots were there, so had the contrast and brightness up full to compensate - which worked to a degree. But you ended up with that problem I had. (plus I'm pretty sure you're not meant to have contract and brightness up full on a monitor anyway)

I spent about two hours adjusting them to the right position (without a feckin mirror! :eek:) and finally managed to get them right.

Delighted so I am!

Casey120 · 05-08-2012 8:31pm

Great to hear everything turned out fine , I did both my cabs using that guide .

o1s1n · 05-08-2012 9:47pm

It's a really great guide. Adjusting those cut off pots was an absolute nightmare though.

Couldn't see them so had to do it blind. Also they only need to be moved a tiny bit which I didn't figure out for ages. If you have them up higher than 1/4, the cut off colours would combine just to make white light. It was a fine balance between using that white as the backlight somewhat and then slowly raising the contrast.

I was meant to play about with the vertical hold along with the JAMMA Megadrive while it was out in the middle of the room (see if I could stop the picture scrolling), but totally forgot and put the cab back in the corner. ah!!! Was looking forward to some 15K MUSHA and Eliminate Down!

o1s1n · 05-08-2012 11:54pm

That's weird, I thought I just posted something in here but it's gone?

Must have forgotten to press submit

Anyway, opened up a hatch I've never looked under to have a look at the speakers and got a surprise - a slot for a fluorescent bulb!

What's cool about it is the marquee comes down over it, so when the bulb is lit, the whole thing should light up. Really want to get one now.

Andrew76 - I remember you picked one up a bulb a while ago, was it from Akihabarashop? I wonder would they have one around town somewhere?

Steve X2 · 06-08-2012 12:07am

o1s1n wrote: »

That's weird, I thought I just posted something in here but it's gone?

Must have forgotten to press submit

Anyway, opened up a hatch I've never looked under to have a look at the speakers and got a surprise - a slot for a fluorescent bulb!

What's cool about it is the marquee comes down over it, so when the bulb is lit, the whole thing should light up. Really want to get one now.

Andrew76 - I remember you picked one up a bulb a while ago, was it from Akihabarashop? I wonder would they have one around town somewhere?

The ones you find in shops here are usually a few mm to large or small. The large will fit in but its under a bit or pressure and I wouldn't trust them.

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unky chop chop · 06-08-2012 1:00am

Maybe same size as the tubes I bought for my astro
Bought them in Homebase.
450mm -15W.
Fits perfectly..hopefully same size as yours.

Also I can see that your Ballast has a starter bulb/fuse on it,If the a new tube don't work then it may need to be replaced as well( assuming AC wiring to it is Sound)

o1s1n · 06-08-2012 1:39am

Thanks for the info man! I'll take some measurements and see if it comes in under 450mm. Would be great if I could pick it up locally rather than have to worry about it breaking in the post.

The starter fuse was something I was just reading up on. I take it that lights up and then sends light through the bulb?

unky chop chop · 06-08-2012 2:07am

Same little twisty knob in all florescent lights.
it just pumps a few more volts into it to get it going I think.

Funny,the one in my kitchen still blinks,I need to twidle that starter and I don't give a flying feck about it,but by christ as soon as anything went wrong with the one in my cab I was on it like a flash

Casey120 · 06-08-2012 8:18am

Mine is just a standard 430 mm 15w Philips TL .

The Japanese FG-1E screw in starter is hard to source here in Europe but STV sells them on Shumps !

Andrew76 · 06-08-2012 8:25am

o1s1n wrote: »

Andrew76 - I remember you picked one up a bulb a while ago, was it from Akihabarashop? I wonder would they have one around town somewhere?

Nah I got mine from that RS online shop (don't have the link to hand) but defo check out your local store as unky suggests, would be cheaper and faster. I have a second backup bulb that I'd gladly give you to test but unfort you don't live around the corner.

Maybe if you're still stuck by/if the time your beers happens I could bring it along.

kevin2me · 06-08-2012 9:01am

o1s1n wrote: »

Anyway, opened up a hatch I've never looked under to have a look at the speakers and got a surprise - a slot for a fluorescent bulb!

What's cool about it is the marquee comes down over it, so when the bulb is lit, the whole thing should light up. Really want to get one now.

Andrew76 - I remember you picked one up a bulb a while ago, was it from Akihabarashop? I wonder would they have one around town somewhere?

Nice find

The cab that keeps giving

BnQ have pretty big selection of tubes.
But I found my Philips on ebay, easier trawling through shops,
and they were 7$, in Total paid 20$ USD including shipping to ireland,
They came in days and to my surprise came in pack of 3 when though i was getting one

So if can find type of Tube, usually Philips, and Size and I used these guys:
http://myworld.ebay.com/trust_deals/?_trksid=p4340.l2559

Pyongyang · 06-08-2012 1:25pm

Good news, a kind-hearted soul at AO just fixed my ¥100 coin mech for me. It's back in the post to me so I should have it this week. HURRAH!

Andrew76 · 14-08-2012 12:26am

Pyongyang wrote: »

Good news, a kind-hearted soul at AO just fixed my ¥100 coin mech for me. It's back in the post to me so I should have it this week. HURRAH!

So did you get this back and working?

Pyongyang · 14-08-2012 12:41am

Andrew76 wrote: »

So did you get this back and working?

Yep, works great! Just the coin meter isn't registering now coin meter counter has stopped.

CiDeRmAn · 15-08-2012 12:28am

Trying to run thus Transformers Ultimate cart through the Supergun and I'm not getting a picture, just interference. For a time there was a rolling picture but now nothing.
Any ideas what to do to get this working?

The Supergun gives both RCA and s-video out.
Is this the problem?

If I switch to "Sync correct" on the supergun I get a poorly coloured picture from the RCA, nothing when in the other setting.
The S-Video is giving me nothing.

Steve X2 · 15-08-2012 12:58am

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Trying to run thus Transformers Ultimate cart through the Supergun and I'm not getting a picture, just interference. For a time there was a rolling picture but now nothing.
Any ideas what to do to get this working?

The Supergun gives both RCA and s-video out.
Is this the problem?

If I switch to "Sync correct" on the supergun I get a poorly coloured picture from the RCA, nothing when in the other setting.
The S-Video is giving me nothing.

http://www.arcade-game-sales.com/products/egret/6267-3.html

CiDeRmAn · 15-08-2012 1:13am

Ha ha, very good...
Not quite as helpful as one might imagine, however.

So, aside from buying a cab I can't have, any notion of getting this to work on a regular CRT?

Steve X2 · 15-08-2012 1:42am

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Ha ha, very good...
Not quite as helpful as one might imagine, however.

So, aside from buying a cab I can't have, any notion of getting this to work on a regular CRT?

When it comes to superguns and the like I'm unfortunately lacking in knowledge. The only similar thing I have is a consolized MVS and that was pre-built and self contained in a wooden case.

Pyongyang · 15-08-2012 6:20am

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I'm not getting a picture, just interference. For a time there was a rolling picture...

If I switch to "Sync correct" on the supergun I get a poorly coloured picture from the RCA, nothing when in the other setting.
The S-Video is giving me nothing.

There's the problem. Sync issue.

Is this connected to an LCD TV? I'm almost certain it's a combo of that specific cart and your TV. The rolling picture is a sync issue, hence sync correct gives you at least some sort of picture.

Try a different TV if possible. My 1 slot hates my plasma downstairs, but my CRT is grand. My LCD monitor is grand if I run it through a Sync Strike.

CiDeRmAn · 15-08-2012 7:09am

Right, I might give it a try on the lcd, not ideal though.
Might have access to another big CRT.
This is the first time the Trinitron has let me down, kinda surprising.

Pyongyang · 15-08-2012 7:32am

It might well not be the TV you are using, but MVS signal output is notoriously fussy about sync. Could well be the Supergun, but I'd say it's the TV. The fact is, somewhere the signal is losing sync or is not strong enough, hence the intermittent and/or rolling picture. Changing TV will at least rule one possibility out.

By the way, another useful tip. ONLY ever swap TV's while listening to the 12" version of Criticize by Alexander O'Neal. It worked for me.

CiDeRmAn · 16-08-2012 9:53am

Right, tried the thing out on every tv I have, I'm getting a solid picture from everything but the Sony.
Unfortunately I'm also getting reds displayed as greens across the upper quarter of the screen, in a horizontal stripe to the top edge.

This is a major pisser.

Everything else I have, the MVS and the G-Net work fine, so it must be the cart.

And, yes, of course I listen to Criticize by the be-suited Mr O'Neal, love that song...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CySYwZNH65I

I find Pretty In Pink works better when working with RGB cables though... just sayin'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqmTMiIMG74

Pyongyang · 16-08-2012 10:37am

See? Told you a bit of Alexander O'Neal solves everything doesn't it?

Might be a voltage thing too, specific to that cart. Have you tried adjusting the voltage? Bottom line really is that MVS systems are just bloody fussy, they don't even output a standard signal which is why most TV's don't get on with them.

Bootleg carts are what they are, I am ∞% sure ondafly would not sell you anything pony (not my business of course, just sayin'

). I've never used those X in 1 carts so have little knowledge of them, however it's possible their success rate varies across the types of MVS boards?

What type of MVS main board are you using anyway? Have a look at the Hard MVS website for specifics on your board, might shed light on voltage, RGB etc. Do all legit carts play fine?

Oh, and when I'm having RGB issues, I prefer a bit of El DeBarge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yA9WhYnsD_4

CathalDublin · 16-08-2012 10:44am

Steve SI wrote: »

http://www.arcade-game-sales.com/products/egret/6267-3.html

I got a quote from them for shipping for that to Ireland and it was €1400:eek:

CiDeRmAn · 16-08-2012 11:17am

Pyongyang wrote: »

Might be a voltage thing too, specific to that cart. Have you tried adjusting the voltage? Bottom line really is that MVS systems are just bloody fussy, they don't even output a standard signal which is why most TV's don't get on with them.

Bootleg carts are what they are, I am ∞% sure ondafly would not sell you anything pony (not my business of course, just sayin' ). I've never used those X in 1 carts so have little knowledge of them, however it's possible their success rate varies across the types of MVS boards?

What type of MVS main board are you using anyway? Have a look at the Hard MVS website for specifics on your board, might shed light on voltage, RGB etc. Do all legit carts play fine?

We are at cross purposes here methinks.
My MVS board works a treat, always has, no probs.
It's the Transformers Ultimate cart, Pink Elf multi cart for Jamma that I have issue with.
I know these things are as unreliable as hell but I bought it off of Ondafly and I know it worked before I got it, he's a trustworthy guy.

So, here we are, a cart that won't work, probably because of the hardware.
I don't know how to adjust voltage settings on one of these things, it's a Vogatek Supergun and an ATX psu.

Bum!

Pyongyang · 16-08-2012 11:30am

If you have different MVS boards it would go some way to pointing at it being an issue with the cart not liking a specific board. That's the whole deal with bootleg carts though.

I forget what I have, an MVS-1FZ I think. If you want to test it on my MVS system you're more than welcome. I can test it on both my arcade cabinet and supergun...?

Pyongyang · 16-08-2012 11:46am

This might help...?

http://www.assemblergames.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-22094.html

Those Vogatek Superguns are a bit iffy it seems.

Andrew76 · 31-08-2012 4:48am

Haven't been on AO in a while so just noticed a recent update to this thread, custom built rotate mechs for AWSD an E3. Unfortunately not for resale but very impressive indeed!

Steve X2 · 31-08-2012 8:29am

Now that would be very nice indeed.
Really the only thing the Egret 2 has over the E3 and AWSD is the rotate mech inside. I prefer the pure flat tri sync monitor that the Egret 3 and AWSD use and a rotate mech would be the business.

Doesn't look like he'll ever be selling these unfortunately.

Optimus Prime · 02-09-2012 9:28pm

I just removed my first chassis from a arcade crt tonight. I didnt trust myself with the screwdriver\cable\crocodile clip way so i bought a HV Probe and a new multimeter for myself a week ago. I hooked the Probe up to the meter, earthed it with the crocodile clip and held my breath while i stuck the tip under the anode cap and.... nothing happened. the meter didnt move at all. I havent had this cab on in about 3 weeks so obviously there was nothing left in it. popped off the anode cap and remove the chassis. heart was in my mouth sticking the thing under, even when i knew there was charge in there squeezing the anode cap together made me nervous. all went well this time though..

Casey120 · 02-09-2012 9:45pm

I had to do the same thing with my Cute right after I bought it , I did the Screwdriver/cable/Croc clip with rubber glove poking under the anode cap and it gave a little popping sound that scared the **** out of me .
Removed the chassis and send it to Craig Walker from Giz10P who made it as good as new again !

The things you have to learn and do when you get your fist cab :P

Steve X2 · 04-09-2012 6:44pm

Was doing a bit of research on Egret 3 cpanels and came across this:

I remember I was thinking of making a 2player 8 button panel when I was having difficulties sourcing a nice 2p 6 button panel for mine last year.

So glad I decided that all the extra buttons would probably look crap, looks like I was right.

Edit:

Myrddin · 04-09-2012 6:46pm

It not only looks wrong, I'd say its difficult to use too

Steve X2 · 04-09-2012 7:03pm

EnterNow wrote: »

It not only looks wrong, I'd say its difficult to use too

Yeah, you just dont need more than 6 buttons for gameplay.
I've 2 hidden mini buttons on the bottom of the cpanel (in the lock holes so no drilling or modding done to it) and I use them for the "Esc" key in windows for my Hyperspin pc and the other one as the "Home/Guide" button on my first hacked 360 pad. I don't need them of course but they are handy and out of sight and the shift key setup on the JPac handles the rest.

o1s1n · 04-09-2012 7:37pm

Argh, that looks awful!

05-09-2012 12:30pm

That looks like a layout that someone who has gotten used to playing street fighter 4 on an 8 button layout would want. The original 6 are as standard, and the last 2 are macros that activate all 3 buttons on the top or bottom rows, to activate all 3 punches or all 3 kicks respectively.

I have them removed on my arcade fightstick because they're uncomfortable to use and awkward for my giant shovel hands.:p

o1s1n · 05-09-2012 12:37pm

Macros? That be cheatin'!

05-09-2012 1:28pm

o1s1n wrote: »

Macros? That be cheatin'!

Yeah, that's what i think too. If you want three kicks or punches, do it the old school way. Use the Claw!:D

Seriously though, the only reason i can think of that someone would want to do that with a japanese cab like that is to stick a SF4 kit in it, or wire it up to a PC running the game.

Casey120 · 07-09-2012 9:02pm

I finally added a 4th button to the jamma loom as some games I have use one, I have 2 sets of player 1/2 start buttons so I used the small white ones just above my normal size 3 buttons as button 4 .

Tried tonight on EspGaluda 2 and works like a charm !

o1s1n · 07-09-2012 11:49pm

I love those Aero control panels, so sexy!!

TechnoFreek · 08-09-2012 1:59am

Steve, where did you source your egret panel?
Is it authentic parts or repro?

Steve X2 · 08-09-2012 3:05am

TechnoFreek wrote: »

Steve, where did you source your egret panel?
Is it authentic parts or repro?

After many many months I found a mint original 2L12B on Arcade Otaku.
I originally had a 2L8B panel and had almost given up hope of finding the elusive 2L12B when it just almost fell in my lap from a seller over there.

Some info and pics over on Retrovia.ie :
http://www.retrovia.ie/showthread.php/8633-Installed-a-new-control-panel-on-my-Egret-3-candy-cab-might-be-useful-for-others.

TechnoFreek · 08-09-2012 9:37am

I presume its authentic Steve?

Did you come across anywhere even selling repro panels? Any advice appreciated!

Steve X2 · 08-09-2012 1:42pm

TechnoFreek wrote: »

I presume its authentic Steve?

Did you come across anywhere even selling repro panels? Any advice appreciated!

Yeah it's the real deal.
I think starcab did some repros but they never had any in stock.

TechnoFreek · 08-09-2012 1:54pm

Great find so Steve!

Yeah saw them on starcabs and neo-legend but as you say, out of stock!

unky chop chop · 08-09-2012 11:53pm

Check out this yoke.

never seen one before..Egret 29"

Lob sided CP and foot rest at the side looks bloody weird.WTF
The speaker placement is mad as well.
But look at that marquee design...Absolutely quality stuff.

o1s1n · 09-09-2012 12:00am

That's the predecessor to the Egret 2. Always thought it to be a very weird, ugly looking machine.

Never noticed the foot rest on the side though, what the hell is that about?!

unky chop chop · 09-09-2012 12:11am

Ohhhh is it.Never saw it before

Yeah Mad..but when you look at it, Player two would be living the dream playing on it.
Legs stretched out fully,Reclining in his chair sipping a cocktail while P1 hunches up to the controls like some sort of Spina Bifida victim.

TechnoFreek · 09-09-2012 9:45pm

TechnoFreek wrote: »

Great find so Steve!

Yeah saw them on starcabs and neo-legend but as you say, out of stock!

Update: and neither seem to reply to emails. Well those written in the English language anyway.

Frogs. Snails. Garlic. Munchers.

Optimus Prime · 12-09-2012 11:13pm

Got my chassis fixed! Finally a working arcade cab, well i have the other one with lcd screen in it, but it doesnt count and the caps need to be replaced in the chassis on the other one there. new artwork, buttons and now screen is working!

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