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Flightradar24 Thread Part III

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 146 ✭✭Shannon Control


    eastmayo wrote: »
    Would it be dumping fuel?

    A 757 going to EWR that's held over BFS already shouldn't need to for 23R. At worst it'd shoot an overweight landing, it's just running through checklists before making an approach I'd imagine.

    EDIT: It's going for 09 at LPL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭Jack1985


    Christ would DUB not have been a better option? or even SNN with facilities in place nevermind all the spots United fly to in the UK.. LPL is strange one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 146 ✭✭Shannon Control


    Jack1985 wrote: »
    Christ would DUB not have been a better option?

    Was thinking the same thing! Jesus now it seems to be going back to 23R at MAN? Gone through 09 Loc.

    Sorry, 05's you're right, silly me not paying attention!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭Jack1985


    Looks like its landing 05R at MAN. Squawking 7700 now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭iancm25


    Jack1985 wrote: »
    Looks like its landing 05R at MAN. Squawking 7700 now.

    On the ground in Manchester now.

    Newbie question - why don't the UK airports have live ATC feeds online?

    And how did people here know which airport it was heading to - LHR was mentioned earlier, then liverpool then manchester? Did ye just look at the direction it was travelling on flightradar?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 146 ✭✭Shannon Control


    iancm25 wrote: »
    On the ground in Manchester now.

    Newbie question - why don't the UK airports have live ATC feeds online?

    And how did people here know which airport it was heading to - LHR was mentioned earlier, then liverpool then manchester? Did ye just look at the direction it was travelling on flightradar?

    NATS (the ANSP for UK) blocked ATC feeds, it's illegal to live-stream the UK ATC feeds I think.

    It said on UAL website it was heading to LHR at the beginning. Then flew at a 10 mile final for LPL, went past it and established on 05R for MAN.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    About 90 min from Dublin just south of Iceland is EI-FOO on delivery to Ryanair


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    AN 124 currently about 50 miles off Mayo will pass over the country en route to Leipzig for anyone with clear skies....


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,197 ✭✭✭arubex


    21:00 Aircraft swap in Manchester for the passengers of ex-Belfast UAL76 and launched westwards for Newark

    http://fr24.com/UAL76/8f152f8


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Not often that you divert to an airport further from your original destination than you were before you flew!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    EI779 ACE-DUB just diverted to ORK. Any info?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    EI779 ACE-DUB just diverted to ORK. Any info?

    Off again from ORK


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,185 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    EI779 ACE-DUB just diverted to ORK. Any info?

    Seems to be heading back to DUB as two seperate aircraft !!!! Hahaha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Off again from ORK

    Must have been a medical emergency.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,185 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    EI779 ACE-DUB just diverted to ORK. Any info?

    Seems to be heading back to DUB as two seperate aircraft !!!!!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    Locker10a wrote: »
    Seems to be heading back to DUB as two seperate aircraft !!!! Hahaha

    How?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,185 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    EI779 ACE-DUB just diverted to ORK. Any info?

    Is heading back to DUB now, would it be fuel? The flight times seem very long tonight up from the canaries ?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,185 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Shannon757 wrote: »
    How?

    IT was showing on flight radar as two aircraft both the same callsign and same aircraft reg and both on the runway at cork together at the same time, the glitch is fixed now though :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    Locker10a wrote: »
    IT was showing on flight radar as two aircraft both the same callsign and same aircraft reg and both on the runway at cork together at the same time, the glitch is fixed now though :p

    Ah right, didn't catch it until after it took off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 146 ✭✭Shannon Control


    EIN77K didn't have enough fuel to continue to Dublin with a possibility of a delay. They programmed the SUTEX1Z into their FMC, which gives a straight in, whereas they should've put the SUTEX1R in, which would allow for a delay on the arc. They needed an extra 300 kilos to fly the arc and didn't have it so fueled up in ORK and continued on to be safe. No medical issue.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    EIN77K didn't have enough fuel to continue to Dublin with a possibility of a delay. They programmed the SUTEX1Z into their FMC, which gives a straight in, whereas they should've put the SUTEX1R in, which would allow for a delay on the arc. They needed an extra 300 kilos to fly the arc and didn't have it so fueled up in ORK and continued on to be safe. No medical issue.
    Shannon757 wrote: »
    Must have been a medical emergency.

    I was wrong so.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,185 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    EIN77K didn't have enough fuel to continue to Dublin with a possibility of a delay. They programmed the SUTEX1Z into their FMC, which gives a straight in, whereas they should've put the SUTEX1R in, which would allow for a delay on the arc. They needed an extra 300 kilos to fly the arc and didn't have it so fueled up in ORK and continued on to be safe. No medical issue.

    Thought so, was a very quick turn, too quick to be a medical, thanks for the info


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭deaddonkey15


    EIN77K didn't have enough fuel to continue to Dublin with a possibility of a delay. They programmed the SUTEX1Z into their FMC, which gives a straight in, whereas they should've put the SUTEX1R in, which would allow for a delay on the arc. They needed an extra 300 kilos to fly the arc and didn't have it so fueled up in ORK and continued on to be safe. No medical issue.

    Can you explain the SUTEX terms please? I don't think I've heard of them before.


  • Registered Users Posts: 678 ✭✭✭Nibs05


    Can you explain the SUTEX terms please? I don't think I've heard of them before.

    SUTEX 1R is a STAR (standard terminal arrival route) for arrival into Dublin from the south west, the pilot would input this STAR into the fmc as part the flight plan.

    Here's a pic, SUTEX is at the bottom of the photo.

    24g3mu8.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 146 ✭✭Shannon Control


    Can you explain the SUTEX terms please? I don't think I've heard of them before.

    SUTEX is a waypoint used for arrivals into Dublin from the south-west. The SUTEX1R has a long arc on the arrival (see link below) which is used to sequence aircraft, so without the need for holding them they fly on the arc. The SUTEX1Z is used when airlines plan the flight for fuel purposes, as they don't expect to fly the entire arc. They forgot to re-input the correct arrival (SUTEX1R) in their FMS, so their planned fuel didn't allow for the potential delay.

    http://iaip.iaa.ie/iaip/Published%20Files/AIP%20Files/AD/Chart%20Files/EIDW/EI_AD_2_EIDW_24-19.1_en.pdf


  • Registered Users Posts: 262 ✭✭PinOnTheRight


    A 757 going to EWR that's held over BFS already shouldn't need to for 23R. At worst it'd shoot an overweight landing, it's just running through checklists before making an approach I'd imagine.

    EDIT: It's going for 09 at LPL

    The aircraft held over WAL, not MIRSI, and was never making an approach for 09 at LPL. Original intentions were LHR but changed to MAN, and crossed the Irish Sea at FL90 before taking up the hold at WAL.

    Also, to dispel the rumours, 757s cannot dump fuel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,504 ✭✭✭Jack1985


    EIN77K didn't have enough fuel to continue to Dublin with a possibility of a delay. They programmed the SUTEX1Z into their FMC, which gives a straight in, whereas they should've put the SUTEX1R in, which would allow for a delay on the arc. They needed an extra 300 kilos to fly the arc and didn't have it so fueled up in ORK and continued on to be safe. No medical issue.

    Ah cmere that was most definitely not the case! Pilots aren't illiterate. The aircraft was weight-restricted from ACE to DUB due to a busy load so the company planned a fuel-uplift at Cork. I'd be careful posting that kind of fairy business on here can get you into quite a bit of trouble considering you've stated the pilots basically left Lanzarote without enough fuel to operate to DUB. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭h3000


    US Department of Justice ATR42 heading towards SNN

    http://fr24.com/N212AZ

    0118 999 881 999 119 725 3



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    Jack1985 wrote: »
    Ah cmere that was most definitely not the case! Pilots aren't illiterate. The aircraft was weight-restricted from ACE to DUB due to a busy load so the company planned a fuel-uplift at Cork. I'd be careful posting that kind of fairy business on here can get you into quite a bit of trouble considering you've stated the pilots basically left Lanzarote without enough fuel to operate to DUB. :rolleyes:

    Another very distinct possibility is that there was no issue with the route and the fuel required for it on a normal day, even with weight limits out of ACE, but looking at what's been happening with the jetstream winds at the moment, it would be rare to have a northerly jet blowing from Ireland to Spain, but that's what's been happening over the last few days. It's not going to take much to upset the math if the normal trip fuel is more than enough, but marginal, with the normal jet winds from the west, and not usually strong on that route.

    Now, the winds on the day are 100 to 120 or more Kts on the nose all the way. A 3 hour trip could very easily become 4 hours in those circumstances, and with the limits out of ACE, a quick dive into Cork for the extra needed would be nothing to worry about, and it's no different to the regular splash and dash at Shannon that some of the trans atlantic 757 flights are doing some of the time during the winter months in order to be sure of getting to where they are supposed to be going.

    A long time ago now, the Shorts 360's used to operate out of Cork to Rennes on a Saturday, and it was a regular event for them to drop into Exeter for fuel on the way back, due to the en route winds.

    The BA001 from LCY to JFK calls at SNN on the west bound flight because they can't get out of LCY with the trip fuel, although it's a big help to clear immigration and customs during the SNN stop. Eastbound, with no runway limitations at JFK, it's non stop to LCY, and some of that is the prevailing winds, and the rest is the limits at LCY.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    although it's a big help to clear immigration and customs during the SNN stop.

    Really is only an advantage of circumstance though. Also noteworthy that the first flight only clears, (around 11am) and the 6pm flight does not clear.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    The runway at LGW appears to be closed. Lots of holding and diverting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭pepe the prawn


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    The runway at LGW appears to be closed. Lots of holding and diverting.

    747 leaked oil along the runway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 581 ✭✭✭pepe the prawn


    EI673 inbound DUB from BUD, passenger on board with a dislocated knee, requesting ambulance on arrival and an expeditious approach. No emergency declared yet.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,185 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    The runway at LGW appears to be closed. Lots of holding and diverting.

    A lot of delays expected , EI236 only departing Dublin now, 2 hour delays expected on a lot of flights


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    They're coming thick and fast, EI-FOR new for Ryanair on it's way and due at Dublin sometime after 3pm today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭masit


    Was looking in around the Caribbean and spotted a ballon icon. Showing up as Google Loon ballon at 61500ft launched from Puerto Rico. Something to do with their internet for rural communities with no internet. Sorry, Not able to put up photo of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,015 ✭✭✭✭GBX


    masit wrote: »
    Was looking in around the Caribbean and spotted a ballon icon. Showing up as Google Loon ballon at 61500ft launched from Puerto Rico. Something to do with their internet for rural communities with no internet. Sorry, Not able to put up photo of it.

    http://www.flightradar24.com/HBAL233/8f6c2f9


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    They're coming thick and fast, EI-FOR new for Ryanair on it's way and due at Dublin sometime after 3pm today.

    Here she is

    RYR800R from Seattle to Dublin http://fr24.com/RYR800R/8f6f218


  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭masit


    There is an AN-12 over northern Germany showing at 50000ft, can't be right????


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    masit wrote: »
    There is an AN-12 over northern Germany showing at 50000ft, can't be right????

    According to wikipedia "Service ceiling: 10,200 m (33,500 ft)" so no, its probably incorrect.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,847 ✭✭✭✭Shannon757


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    According to wikipedia "Service ceiling: 10,200 m (33,500 ft)" so no, its probably incorrect.

    Good ol reliable Wikipedia...:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Shannon757 wrote: »
    Good ol reliable Wikipedia...:rolleyes:

    It can be inaccurate, but often it's not.

    Don't really understand peoples hatred of Wikipedia, this is a discussion, not an official disclosure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,816 ✭✭✭Comhrá


    Did EI-LBS do a training/test flight this evening or did it have to return from a transatlantic flight? Doesn't seem to have a scheduled flt. no. so maybe a technical sortie of some sort?

    (Apologies for the huge file.....couldn't resize it for some reason)

    12771871_10206831368995047_2829785080960157451_o.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    No Aer Lingus TA flights from SNN today, and especially not at 4pm (USPC closed).

    Likely some sort of Training/Maintenance.

    Also noteworthy is the go-around. It's likely not got to do with the wind. (Only 16kts)


  • Registered Users Posts: 707 ✭✭✭BZ


    tippman1 wrote: »
    Did EI-LBS do a training/test flight this evening or did it have to return from a transatlantic flight? Doesn't seem to have a scheduled flt. no. so maybe a technical sortie of some sort?

    12771871_10206831368995047_2829785080960157451_o.jpg

    Test flight after maintenance. The new 757 for EI has had its winglets fitted with engines to follow shortly.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,576 ✭✭✭deaddonkey15


    BZ wrote: »
    Test flight after maintenance. The new 757 for EI has had its winglets fitted with engines to follow shortly.

    A new 757? So they have 4 now?


  • Registered Users Posts: 707 ✭✭✭BZ


    Interesting 737 N321GG belonging to gogo Internet provider used as a flying test lab just approaching the west coast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    A new 757? So they have 4 now?

    Yeah. Will operate DUB-IAD until September and then will operate DUB-BDL


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    The new Dxb-Akl has disappeared from FR24 map.
    Last I saw it, EK448 was east of Mel heading to Akl and it just has gone to 'unknown' status. Why?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,227 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    snubbleste wrote: »
    The new Dxb-Akl has disappeared from FR24 map.
    Last I saw it, EK448 was east of Mel heading to Akl and it just has gone to 'unknown' status. Why?

    Loss of ADB-S signal.


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