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Flightradar24 Thread Part III

Shannon757

Carnacalla wrote: »

747 inbound SNN. 19,000ft and decending.

Stobart about to turn for approach, wind 240 degrees 40kts G 49kts.

National are pretty regular visitors to Shannon.

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JCX BXC

EI779 ACE-DUB just diverted to ORK. Any info?

JCX BXC

Carnacalla wrote: »

EI779 ACE-DUB just diverted to ORK. Any info?

Off again from ORK

Locker10a

Carnacalla wrote: »

EI779 ACE-DUB just diverted to ORK. Any info?

Seems to be heading back to DUB as two seperate aircraft !!!! Hahaha

Shannon757

Carnacalla wrote: »

Off again from ORK

Must have been a medical emergency.

Locker10a

Carnacalla wrote: »

EI779 ACE-DUB just diverted to ORK. Any info?

Seems to be heading back to DUB as two seperate aircraft !!!!!

Shannon757

Locker10a wrote: »

Seems to be heading back to DUB as two seperate aircraft !!!! Hahaha

How?

Locker10a

Carnacalla wrote: »

EI779 ACE-DUB just diverted to ORK. Any info?

Is heading back to DUB now, would it be fuel? The flight times seem very long tonight up from the canaries ?

Locker10a

Shannon757 wrote: »

How?

IT was showing on flight radar as two aircraft both the same callsign and same aircraft reg and both on the runway at cork together at the same time, the glitch is fixed now though

Shannon757

Locker10a wrote: »

IT was showing on flight radar as two aircraft both the same callsign and same aircraft reg and both on the runway at cork together at the same time, the glitch is fixed now though

Ah right, didn't catch it until after it took off.

Shannon Control

EIN77K didn't have enough fuel to continue to Dublin with a possibility of a delay. They programmed the SUTEX1Z into their FMC, which gives a straight in, whereas they should've put the SUTEX1R in, which would allow for a delay on the arc. They needed an extra 300 kilos to fly the arc and didn't have it so fueled up in ORK and continued on to be safe. No medical issue.

Shannon757

Shannon Control wrote: »

EIN77K didn't have enough fuel to continue to Dublin with a possibility of a delay. They programmed the SUTEX1Z into their FMC, which gives a straight in, whereas they should've put the SUTEX1R in, which would allow for a delay on the arc. They needed an extra 300 kilos to fly the arc and didn't have it so fueled up in ORK and continued on to be safe. No medical issue.

Shannon757 wrote: »

Must have been a medical emergency.

I was wrong so.

Locker10a

Shannon Control wrote: »

EIN77K didn't have enough fuel to continue to Dublin with a possibility of a delay. They programmed the SUTEX1Z into their FMC, which gives a straight in, whereas they should've put the SUTEX1R in, which would allow for a delay on the arc. They needed an extra 300 kilos to fly the arc and didn't have it so fueled up in ORK and continued on to be safe. No medical issue.

Thought so, was a very quick turn, too quick to be a medical, thanks for the info

deaddonkey15

Shannon Control wrote: »

EIN77K didn't have enough fuel to continue to Dublin with a possibility of a delay. They programmed the SUTEX1Z into their FMC, which gives a straight in, whereas they should've put the SUTEX1R in, which would allow for a delay on the arc. They needed an extra 300 kilos to fly the arc and didn't have it so fueled up in ORK and continued on to be safe. No medical issue.

Can you explain the SUTEX terms please? I don't think I've heard of them before.

Nibs05

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Can you explain the SUTEX terms please? I don't think I've heard of them before.

SUTEX 1R is a STAR (standard terminal arrival route) for arrival into Dublin from the south west, the pilot would input this STAR into the fmc as part the flight plan.

Here's a pic, SUTEX is at the bottom of the photo.

Shannon Control

deaddonkey15 wrote: »

Can you explain the SUTEX terms please? I don't think I've heard of them before.

SUTEX is a waypoint used for arrivals into Dublin from the south-west. The SUTEX1R has a long arc on the arrival (see link below) which is used to sequence aircraft, so without the need for holding them they fly on the arc. The SUTEX1Z is used when airlines plan the flight for fuel purposes, as they don't expect to fly the entire arc. They forgot to re-input the correct arrival (SUTEX1R) in their FMS, so their planned fuel didn't allow for the potential delay.

http://iaip.iaa.ie/iaip/Published%20Files/AIP%20Files/AD/Chart%20Files/EIDW/EI_AD_2_EIDW_24-19.1_en.pdf

PinOnTheRight

Shannon Control wrote: »

A 757 going to EWR that's held over BFS already shouldn't need to for 23R. At worst it'd shoot an overweight landing, it's just running through checklists before making an approach I'd imagine.

EDIT: It's going for 09 at LPL

The aircraft held over WAL, not MIRSI, and was never making an approach for 09 at LPL. Original intentions were LHR but changed to MAN, and crossed the Irish Sea at FL90 before taking up the hold at WAL.

Also, to dispel the rumours, 757s cannot dump fuel.

Jack1985

Shannon Control wrote: »

EIN77K didn't have enough fuel to continue to Dublin with a possibility of a delay. They programmed the SUTEX1Z into their FMC, which gives a straight in, whereas they should've put the SUTEX1R in, which would allow for a delay on the arc. They needed an extra 300 kilos to fly the arc and didn't have it so fueled up in ORK and continued on to be safe. No medical issue.

Ah cmere that was most definitely not the case! Pilots aren't illiterate. The aircraft was weight-restricted from ACE to DUB due to a busy load so the company planned a fuel-uplift at Cork. I'd be careful posting that kind of fairy business on here can get you into quite a bit of trouble considering you've stated the pilots basically left Lanzarote without enough fuel to operate to DUB. :rolleyes:

h3000

US Department of Justice ATR42 heading towards SNN

http://fr24.com/N212AZ

Irish Steve

Jack1985 wrote: »

Ah cmere that was most definitely not the case! Pilots aren't illiterate. The aircraft was weight-restricted from ACE to DUB due to a busy load so the company planned a fuel-uplift at Cork. I'd be careful posting that kind of fairy business on here can get you into quite a bit of trouble considering you've stated the pilots basically left Lanzarote without enough fuel to operate to DUB. :rolleyes:

Another very distinct possibility is that there was no issue with the route and the fuel required for it on a normal day, even with weight limits out of ACE, but looking at what's been happening with the jetstream winds at the moment, it would be rare to have a northerly jet blowing from Ireland to Spain, but that's what's been happening over the last few days. It's not going to take much to upset the math if the normal trip fuel is more than enough, but marginal, with the normal jet winds from the west, and not usually strong on that route.

Now, the winds on the day are 100 to 120 or more Kts on the nose all the way. A 3 hour trip could very easily become 4 hours in those circumstances, and with the limits out of ACE, a quick dive into Cork for the extra needed would be nothing to worry about, and it's no different to the regular splash and dash at Shannon that some of the trans atlantic 757 flights are doing some of the time during the winter months in order to be sure of getting to where they are supposed to be going.

A long time ago now, the Shorts 360's used to operate out of Cork to Rennes on a Saturday, and it was a regular event for them to drop into Exeter for fuel on the way back, due to the en route winds.

The BA001 from LCY to JFK calls at SNN on the west bound flight because they can't get out of LCY with the trip fuel, although it's a big help to clear immigration and customs during the SNN stop. Eastbound, with no runway limitations at JFK, it's non stop to LCY, and some of that is the prevailing winds, and the rest is the limits at LCY.

JCX BXC

Irish Steve wrote: »

although it's a big help to clear immigration and customs during the SNN stop.

Really is only an advantage of circumstance though. Also noteworthy that the first flight only clears, (around 11am) and the 6pm flight does not clear.

JCX BXC

The runway at LGW appears to be closed. Lots of holding and diverting.

pepe the prawn

Carnacalla wrote: »

The runway at LGW appears to be closed. Lots of holding and diverting.

747 leaked oil along the runway.

pepe the prawn

EI673 inbound DUB from BUD, passenger on board with a dislocated knee, requesting ambulance on arrival and an expeditious approach. No emergency declared yet.

Locker10a

Carnacalla wrote: »

The runway at LGW appears to be closed. Lots of holding and diverting.

A lot of delays expected , EI236 only departing Dublin now, 2 hour delays expected on a lot of flights

highlydebased

They're coming thick and fast, EI-FOR new for Ryanair on it's way and due at Dublin sometime after 3pm today.

masit

Was looking in around the Caribbean and spotted a ballon icon. Showing up as Google Loon ballon at 61500ft launched from Puerto Rico. Something to do with their internet for rural communities with no internet. Sorry, Not able to put up photo of it.

GBX

masit wrote: »

Was looking in around the Caribbean and spotted a ballon icon. Showing up as Google Loon ballon at 61500ft launched from Puerto Rico. Something to do with their internet for rural communities with no internet. Sorry, Not able to put up photo of it.

http://www.flightradar24.com/HBAL233/8f6c2f9

KoolKid

highlydebased wrote: »

They're coming thick and fast, EI-FOR new for Ryanair on it's way and due at Dublin sometime after 3pm today.

Here she is

RYR800R from Seattle to Dublin http://fr24.com/RYR800R/8f6f218

masit

There is an AN-12 over northern Germany showing at 50000ft, can't be right????

JCX BXC

masit wrote: »

There is an AN-12 over northern Germany showing at 50000ft, can't be right????

According to wikipedia "Service ceiling: 10,200 m (33,500 ft)" so no, its probably incorrect.