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Sam, the regular survey is a good idea. You wouldn't need the size of sample you're suggesting. Something like 2,000 should do. With the fairly invasive test in use, it's probably not practical ATM. Once a saliva, esp DIY becomes available then yes.

Water John wrote: »

Sam, the regular survey is a good idea. You wouldn't need the size of sample you're suggesting. Something like 2,000 should do. With the fairly invasive test in use, it's probably not practical ATM. Once a saliva, esp DIY becomes available then yes.

It's not a good idea, it's a minimum standard.

Uncertainty is an inherent part of field sampling and population monitoring. The only option available to counteract that uncertainty is introduce randomness. All the experts have failed to grasp this.
You want to soil test a field, what do you do to get a representative sample?
Add randomness by collecting multiple samples from different areas.
It's so fundamental to so much of the sampling of nearly everything that I don't see how it has been overlooked

longgonesilver wrote: »

Do you know what a test costs?

€200 a pop, lockdown and associated restrictions in excess of €30 billion, current testing strategy has cost over €200 million and has given very little usable data to move us out of current position

Water John wrote: »

€200 was the exhorbitant price being charged by some Dublin private hospitals. Real cost a fraction of that.

Every fool in Dublin gathered in one place, anti-lockdown protest;
https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0822/1160698-anti-lockdown-protest/

Maybe they are fools, but i'm waiting since may for cancer scan, so what with backlog of screening and then longer lists for treatment how long will i wait? Always paid VHI ( and parents before) but no go when needed( feel like a fool thinking on amounts spent ) Now I know not all scans lead to anything but age, symptoms and family history for same ( and glass half empty :rolleyes: type) means thinking about whatif a lot

minerleague wrote: »

Maybe they are fools, but i'm waiting since may for cancer scan, so what with backlog of screening and then longer lists for treatment how long will i wait? Always paid VHI ( and parents before) but no go when needed( feel like a fool thinking on amounts spent ) Now I know not all scans lead to anything but age, symptoms and family history for same ( and glass half empty :rolleyes: type) means thinking about whatif a lot

Yea, It sickens me that the useless Public Pervice has taken over our only alternative, I've been to A and E twice since lockdown and there's nothing going on in the hospitals, apparently they've decided that pre existing conditions aren't deteriorating since lockdown.
Having the empty Private Hospitals at their disposal you'd imagine they'd be eating into waiting lists

wrangler wrote: »

Yea, It sickens me that the useless Public Pervice has taken over our only alternative, I've been to A and E twice since lockdown and there's nothing going on in the hospitals, apparently they've decided that pre existing conditions aren't deteriorating since lockdown.
Having the empty Private Hospitals at their disposal you'd imagine they'd be eating into waiting lists

I know people who've had routine procedures carried out as normal. It's not like the hospitals have just stopped.

The A and E being quite is another issue all together, mostly they aren't filled to the brim with non emergency patients who should probably went to their GP's in the first place (if they needed to go anywhere).

emaherx wrote: »

I know people who've had routine procedures carried out as normal. It's not like the hospitals have just stopped.

The A and E being quite is another issue all together, mostly they aren't filled to the brim with non emergency patients who should probably went to their GP's in the first place (if they needed to go anywhere).

True, I shouldn't have been there if my consultant was able to see me in March instead of having to wait until now. six months later.
Like I said Public Service has decided preexisting conditions have miracously gone into remission because of covid.

Mooooo wrote: »

A world of scans and the like have been put off, a lot important for early diagnosis, only slowly getting back going

Sister went yesterday for her annual mri, it was in july last year. Amazed it was done on a Saturday in Smithfield. She normally goes to Beaumont

Would be interesting to know if it was a slightly diff strain?

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

It was. They had already tested the original and the new strain was different.

So does that mean the new strain is less virulent?

As an aside, there is little evidence of a lockdown in Kildare. OH and I have been drawing round bales of straw from the Naas area every day since last Wednesday (including Sunday) - we had to clear a shed of last years straw as the farmer wanted the shed clear to stack this years bales. We never came across a checkpoint on the route that we took - N4/M4, Kilcock, Clane and Naas.

Water John wrote: »

Last years straw will still be better than this years.
Whilst Kildare was high, the nature of the spread in Dublin is more of a concern.

TBH I'm not surprised. We have the highest density of population and in my own observation the lack of social distancing/general disregard of the guidelines.

Let alone the fact that Dublin Airport, Dublin Port and Dun Laoghaire are open for all and sundry.

If anyone wants some super Covid fighting milk just Holler..

https://thefishsite.com/articles/seaweeds-potential-to-fight-covid-19-is-recognised-by-who?fbclid=IwAR3OJvd-AckVGgObNvZegJHktkeSTA5jm9arGHUrxTaA-Cay5_F3rZPD4DI

Oxford won't be happy with you confusing them with Cambridge, but they might be, in this case.

zetecescort wrote: »

are they waiting till after the All Ireland before they lockdown Dublin or what? tonight must be the 3rd or 4th night that they are concerned about the numbers in Dublin yet do nothing about it

The figures today are a bit off I think, no cases in limerick.