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Rachel Allen’s son arrested for €30,000 drugs seizure

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Ah ok, apologies Chewy - but my point still stands in relation to those who actually do think that way.

    No apology needed, we all have varied opinions.

    I'm not a fan of Ballymaloe relish, not because of Tim Allen, just becuse I think it's shyte. Nothing worse than sinking your teeth into a big lovely sambo then BOOM!....fcuking mouthful of relish like Satans semen.

    I also don't think the whole family should suffer for the sake of one sick individual.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    I feel sorry for her, it's a private matter and having people know about it and gloat must be humiliating. I know there is a lot of negativity towards the Allen's after previous behaviour and a soft sentence but that's not anything to do with Rachel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    squawker wrote: »
    "it seems" being the word right there

    please provide some proof of their alleged criminal dealings

    this is no reason to tarnish the whole family for one members sordid proclivities

    Calm your tits squawker.

    I don't think they are a fully fledged criminal enterprise. However....Tim & Joshua should be all the 'proof' needed tbh and to insist that I need to provide further 'proof' is just idiotic...in fact its more than idiotic.

    To think these events wont have or shouldnt have an effect on the brand is ludacris. Its a family reputation.

    Would I boycott their brand? It doesnt apply to me because the brand doesnt appeal to me.

    Nevertheless, any more family shenanigans wont look good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    Also whatever Gardai leaked this to the press should be sacked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    Hopefully no special treatment is doled out here. This is very serious.
    For real? Boy brings into the country a drug with a low harm profile which is likely to be legalised here within the next few years.
    Sounds super serious alright. Serious waste of police time and taxpayer's money dealing with the case.
    mariaalice wrote: »
    Wait a minute he sent off for it and tried to have it delivered by post?

    Instead of being devastated would she not be more annoyed that he is so stupid.
    It's how the darknet works - some plebs take the risk for the reward, most win that gamble and some don't.
    If there weren't idiotic laws pushing people towards those avenues he wouldn't be labelled as stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,810 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Chewbacca wrote: »

    To think these events wont have or shouldnt have an effect on the brand is ludacris. Its a

    I was actually working in a supermarket just after the previous case.
    They couldn't keep the relish stocked it was so popular at the time dispute the campaign some people had against the family.
    There product range has grown since then also.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,348 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Might have been trying out a new Ballymaloe Brownie recipe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    i think if it was just this , the cannabis bust , people including me would not be too bothered - but its the previous much more serious crime , regarding child pornography , that I can't be so forgiving.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    Chewbacca wrote: »

    To think these events wont have or shouldnt have an effect on the brand is ludacris. Its a family reputation.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,485 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    For those who say that the family should not be associated with the actions of Tim Allen, just remember, they backed him up, funded his legal fees and accepted him back into the family.

    One of the most disgusting verdicts ever handed down in this country and we all know he would have sat for his conviction if he was from a less well known family.

    The son had €30,000 of drugs on him. That is mid size drug dealing territory. You can expect the Golden Circle members to start circling the wagons now.

    Tearful colour spreads in the Sindo, comments from 'family friends' and the usual cohorts on Marian Finucane and Miriam O'Callaghan spouting out whatever guff Terry Prone has coached them to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    First Katy French, now Joshua Allen.

    When will these evil drug dealers leave our innocent celebrities alone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,946 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Hopefully the establishment can sort this out.

    Jail is only for a certain class of people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    If he is treated the same as the shiny tracksuit brigade he will get a suspended sentence, no jail time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    KevRossi wrote: »
    The son had €30,000 of drugs on him. That is mid size drug dealing territory.

    Years of reported Garda seizure exaggerations would lead me to believe the value would be closer to the range of €10k-€15k. They like to inflate numbers to impress or scandalise.
    Still a saucy amount to have delivered, probably about a year's supply for 30-40 people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,946 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    grindle wrote: »
    Years of reported Garda seizure exaggerations would lead me to believe the value would be closer to the range of €10k-€15k. They like to inflate numbers to impress or scandalise.
    Still a saucy amount to have delivered, probably about a year's supply for 30-40 people.

    Sure just look at the breath testing for drink driving.

    Sorry, alleged breath tears.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,068 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    RasTa wrote: »

    She's had more than one cookery programme on BBC, and appears as guest on numerous other cooking shows. They know her.......And Donal Skehan.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,735 ✭✭✭✭Bobeagleburger


    Probably the best thing to happen to him. Wake up call.

    Only 18, time to cop the **** on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle




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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Cienciano wrote: »
    Sorry, but the relish is soooo good. I've made my choice and I'm comfortable with it.

    Well you know what the special ingredient is now, and maybe why you like it so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 Mistrryman


    Just a young idiot.
    Where did he get the money for 30k worth though (presume that 30k is gardaí estimate for gross profit)?

    Garda Street Value= think of a number and multiply by 2


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    grindle wrote: »
    That link says 1.5kg so about €20k realistically.

    3.3lb if it came from the states or Canada. No way it was his first order going for something that size. I'd say it was a kg overall.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,515 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    JMNolan wrote: »
    I feel for her to be honest. I've a child that age and even though they are adults in the eyes of the law you don't seem them that way, you see them as kids. It's tough then when you can't do much to help your child in that situation.

    Ah sure god love them. Hope they can scrape the money together for good legal representation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Maybe if the Cork Pheasant Murderer, who did deliberately, callously, and with beastliness of forethought, murder a lovely, innocent pheasant, had just given him more time as a mother instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,810 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    RasTa wrote: »
    3.3lb if it came from the states or Canada. No way it was his first order going for something that size. I'd say it was a kg overall.

    The people I know who did similar when it was first reported the media made the haul out to be a lot heavier than it actually was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 Mistrryman


    Maybe if the Cork Pheasant Murderer, who did deliberately, callously, and with beastliness of forethought, murder a lovely, innocent pheasant, had just given him more time as a mother instead.

    I hope she treated him better than she treated the poor pheasant


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    RasTa wrote: »
    3.3lb if it came from the states or Canada. No way it was his first order going for something that size. I'd say it was a kg overall.

    Maybe not his first order but at his age (also - he's a posh twonk) he was possibly cajoled into ordering it by somebody who didn't want the risk? Just guessing of course. It's a large amount for anybody to order.

    On the plus side with him being young it'll affect his life minimally, especially given which drug it is. Nobody cares about weed except anachronistic puritans. He has all the time in the world to absolve himself after carrying out this most grievous of crimes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,477 ✭✭✭Oops69


    18 years old and importing 30k of cannabis , pretty shocking really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭Irish Kings


    Mistrryman wrote: »
    Lol ya do you have any proof of the latter?

    I'm asking a question


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Trasna1


    grindle wrote: »
    Maybe not his first order but at his age (also - he's a posh twonk) he was possibly cajoled into ordering it by somebody who didn't want the risk? Just guessing of course. It's a large amount for anybody to order.

    On the plus side with him being young it'll affect his life minimally, especially given which drug it is. Nobody cares about weed except anachronistic puritans. He has all the time in the world to absolve himself after carrying out this most grievous of crimes
    A drug conviction does follow you around - certainly will make traveling to the states more difficult for one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,026 ✭✭✭grindle


    Trasna1 wrote: »
    A drug conviction does follow you around - certainly will make traveling to the states more difficult for one.

    True true. Hopefully he doesn't see any need to go there. Now it's his forbidden fruit, he'll always pine for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Temptamperu


    What a muppet.

    Hopefully no special treatment is doled out here. This is very serious.

    Its weed, how serious could it really be?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    So he's been arrested but not found guilty of anything yet ? so much for innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

    Wasn't his Granada supposed to have taken the peadophila porn rap for one of the sons ?

    He'll be pleading guilty at the first available opportunity according to his mother's statement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,810 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    From what I remember the same lad took transition year out of school and she was unsure If he was going back or not.
    She said he did a tractor courses/etc and once he was working at something she was happy. He also said he had some learning disability.(It was years ago and can't fully remember)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭dirkmeister


    Maybe if the Cork Pheasant Murderer, who did deliberately, callously, and with beastliness of forethought, murder a lovely, innocent pheasant, had just given him more time as a mother instead.

    She should call Bob Mattingburg, the finest mind in British legal history.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Its weed, how serious could it really be?

    30k innit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Its weed, how serious could it really be?


    Can be a sentence of 10 years, given the amount.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,921 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    Only just seen the warning not to mention the P word. Wasn’t on page 3 when I posted. I better not get banned!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,840 ✭✭✭✭Dtp1979


    padd b1975 wrote: »
    He'll be pleading guilty at the first available opportunity according to his mother's statement.

    Please, refer to her as mummy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    The sad truth is he'll probably get more of a punishment than his granddad did even though Tim Allens crime was much much worse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭Irish Kings


    I feel bad for his ma, she's genuinely nice and a lady, such a pity she married into the Allens.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    I feel bad for his ma, she's genuinely nice and a lady, such a pity she married into the Allens.

    The accent though. Jeepers, the accent. Thats all her doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,782 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    Dtp1979 wrote: »
    Please, refer to her as mummy

    Oh yaw, I forgot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,807 ✭✭✭take everything


    Presumably he ordered this on the internet. Surely you'd only get that on the likes of the dark web.

    If so, there's something really ****ed up about some people in that family.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 494 ✭✭Irish Kings


    The accent though. Jeepers, the accent. Thats all her doing.

    Inverted snobbery is just another form of snobbery - not saying that's your intention though.
    I never hold people's accents against them. From travelers to royals, I take people as I find them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    This thread did remind me to make an order.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    ordering a kilo online is just cheeky


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,156 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    KevRossi wrote: »
    For those who say that the family should not be associated with the actions of Tim Allen, just remember, they backed him up, funded his legal fees and accepted him back into the family.

    One of the most disgusting verdicts ever handed down in this country and we all know he would have sat for his conviction if he was from a less well known family.

    The son had €30,000 of drugs on him. That is mid size drug dealing territory. You can expect the Golden Circle members to start circling the wagons now.

    Tearful colour spreads in the Sindo, comments from 'family friends' and the usual cohorts on Marian Finucane and Miriam O'Callaghan spouting out whatever guff Terry Prone has coached them to say.

    From what I recall, Tim Allen's offences (while very unpleasant) were considered at the low end of the scale. The trial judge was extremely angry with reporting of the case and accused the media of sensationally reporting it, lying to their readers and creating the narrative that Allen had gotten off scott free.

    He insisted Allen got the exact same sentence any ordinary Joe Bloggs would have gotten for the same offence but said media hysteria in Ireland created the idea that he had bought his way out of a tougher sentence.


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