Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

Mooooo wrote: »

If sr is ok I'd milk on, if it's tight I'd sell em on now to help build a bit of cover. Ok here so will milk on. Not sure what to do with the two empty heifers tho

inseminate them.. calve next June and sell?? lads up north with robots that milk ayr would snap them up

cosatron wrote: »

we had 4 good young cow not go in calf 2 years and we inseminated them in feb 2019 and they all calved in november 2019 and now they are all back in calf and should be calving in our regular pattern. Now for the big bonus they all had heifer calves

You'd be thrown out of some discussion groups for advocating that type of carry-on, if you have a good solid cow doing 700kgs ms plus yearly with no underlying issues like feet/mastitis/temperament the cost of carrying here over is minuscule compared to calving down heifers, that are a lucky dip at the best of times as how they will turn out

jaymla627 wrote: »

You'd be thrown out of some discussion groups for advocating that type of carry-on, if you have a good solid cow doing 700kgs ms plus yearly with no underlying issues like feet/mastitis/temperament the cost of carrying here over is minuscule compared to calving down heifers, that are a lucky dip at the best of times as how they will turn out

That suits if you milk year round, we'll have 80% calved here by the end of feb and last one by the 10th of april
Theres very few we could milk past the middle of December if we want to give them a decent dry period

whelan2 wrote: »

Was there any reason why they didn't go in calf?

The 2 heifers were incalf just lost the pregnancies. 3 of the 10 cows weren't cycling, should have prob gotten them checked but they slipped thru the cracks in may/june. 6 cows then cycling like clockwork just not holding and another cow served in early may came up empty so I assume embryo loss at some stage.

Before the scanning I had 2 cow's down as empty due to activity but they turned out 3 months in calf and had 2 as in calf that turned up empty so i think its worth it. Hopefully there will be no more losses now.

any one drying off cows what are you dosing with? Was looking at glanbia connect and they have levafas. When you read the withdrawals it says not to use in animals producing milk, does this mean ever or dry them off its ok? Or it just for beef animals?

jaymla627 wrote: »

You'd be thrown out of some discussion groups for advocating that type of carry-on, if you have a good solid cow doing 700kgs ms plus yearly with no underlying issues like feet/mastitis/temperament the cost of carrying here over is minuscule compared to calving down heifers, that are a lucky dip at the best of times as how they will turn out

in a small herd, sometimes you have to keep on the good cows if you want to improve your overall herd, these 4 particular cows, were from good dams and i had no heifers out of them and i was very anxious to get a heifer out of one in particular. they peaked around april at between 35 to 40 litres and are still milking strong considering they are nearly 305 days in milk and they will be calving down in January, we start calving in January cause we love torturing ourselves.

cosatron wrote: »

in a small herd, sometimes you have to keep on the good cows if you want to improve your overall herd, these 4 particular cows, were from good dams and i had no heifers out of them and i was very anxious to get a heifer out of one in particular. they peaked around april at between 35 to 40 litres and are still milking strong considering they are nearly 305 days in milk and they will be calving down in January, we start calving in January cause we love torturing ourselves.

Calved a bunch of older ladies all 5th lactation plus in June/July this year all horsing out the milk again, for the 3 months they spent dry was in a field on a out farm of rough grazing, those type of cows here never dip below 1.9kgs ms even on a 400 plus day lactation so are well worth rolling over

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

Yeah, bought a Kramer teleporter, small machine but plenty big enough for here.

Artic or sideboom? Hope she goes well for ya

jaymla627 wrote:

Calved a bunch of older ladies all 5th lactation plus in June/July this year all horsing out the milk again, for the 3 months they spent dry was in a field on a out farm of rough grazing, those type of cows here never dip below 1.9kgs ms even on a 400 plus day lactation so are well worth rolling over

WTF, 400 days, rough ground, june/July. Next thing you'll be saying your feeding meal there aswell. Will you get a grip of yourself, the journal will go on fire if you pick it up!

I've sold the winter quota here, but still milk on OAD from mid Dec to early Feb, about a dozen cows calf from mid April on, and had a 2.5yr old heifer calf 2 wks ago, have a 20month old heifer due in 2wks, and a cow due mid Dec, and even got 1 (1/3 je) cow who milked on last spring, turned out to be emply, but still gave 20l all year and only back to 15l now. All them are sins in the teagasc book but I'm happy that I'm still making a profit from all them cows, and until I have the mp stocked at over 3cows/ha I'll keep the likes of them cows 2bh.

Buford T. Justice XIX wrote: »

Yeah, bought a Kramer teleporter, small machine but plenty big enough for here.

What model? I've a 580t, mighty machine you won't know yourself. Only issue I'm having is service backup. Farm power don't really want to know and they're also not at all experienced with the brand and at 80+vat an hour it doesn't be long getting expensive to have them tinkering around

Grueller wrote: »

What do ye all use to treat mastitis Folks? I have a second calver here with it in one quarter. Any sucklers were always multimast tubes and pen and strep. I have marbocyl here,its shorter withdrawal than p&s and probably better too. Does anyone go that way?

Is she sick with it?

Grueller wrote: »

What do ye all use to treat mastitis Folks? I have a second calver here with it in one quarter. Any sucklers were always multimast tubes and pen and strep. I have marbocyl here,its shorter withdrawal than p&s and probably better too. Does anyone go that way?

Take a sample before treating If you can, freeze it and take to the vets to get a culture done. Rub on an udder cream and an anti inflammatory such as metacam. A tube then and depending on the case noroclav or similar. They are trying to reduce the usage of marbocyl I think and is most commonly now just used for e-coli type cases.

Grueller wrote: »

Tis used 3 times now!!!! We'll see how it is in the morning and work from there I suppose.

I think the anti inflammatory aside from reducing any swelling and pain can aid on getting the tubes to work so I'm told anyway. The udder cream might be as much about the massaging the udder as about what's in the cream itself I spose.