The Weird, Wacky and Awesome World of the NFL - General Banter thread V3

Foxtrol wrote: »

49ers have signed Jordan Reed.

Great move by both sides, as a fantastic player when healthy on an incentivised contract and for Reed probably the best shop window out there if he performs.

I'll however squirm every time I see him take a hit and wish he'd chosen to retire.

Shedite27 wrote: »

It's a tough one alright, harsh to force people into retirement too, preventing them from earning an income in their profession

Oat23 wrote: »

2020 is so f*cked it wouldn't even be the most surprising thing to happen this year if he balls out and is an all-pro or something.

Once again our season rides on the QB play. If one of them is decent we can do well. If both are s*it we're looking at a 6-10 / 7-9 year.

I still think we should have signed Cam, though. I'm going to feel sick if Foles either can't beat out Mitch or does and plays crap/gets injured while Cam flourishes in NE.

el Fenomeno wrote: »

Derrius Guice has been cut by the Redskins following a whole heap of domestic assault charges.

Foxtrol wrote: »

Same as NBA and NHL, where it has been a great success so far from a health perspective. They stay away from their families for the time or else have to quarantine when returning to the bubble. Obviously a much bigger logistical issue for the larger NFL teams but similar impact to players.

It would be the safest way for NFL to get a full season but I think the risk of a higher level or opt outs by star players made it unpalatable.

I don't get the idea of 'voluntary bubble' though. It seems like a waste unless the whole team 'volunteers' to do it and even then in the regular season you could catch it from the opposition. The system is only as strong as its weakest link and it isn't worth anything if the guy you're blocking on Sunday was out in bar the week or kid was in school.

Foxtrol wrote: »

As expected it is looking more and more like the college season will be cancelled. Like the NFL, the colleges could have done so much more to help there to be a season but didn't bother. Of all sports college football should be one of the easiest to create a bubble but doing so would mean a huge risk of players wanting pay for staying in such an environment (which they should be getting already).

Not a fan of the last minute push from the likes of Lawrence and Fields to try to save the season. Though they claim otherwise, it really stinks of selfishness with them having the most to gain and are at least risk, due to their body type, likely well insured, and the protection from the virus their big money schools can provide them.

brinty wrote: »

I don't know how he can add all the majors cost more to get away from. He can't cut players so will have to extend or restructure them.

I'm a cap geek so find this stuff fascinating

Lily Thoughtless Swimmer wrote: »

Sure but it's easy enough to load contracts a certain way but 50 + million going into a year must be unprecedented ease tially we are likely to seeus carry over money from this year Jason Peters retire alshon and desean cut maby ertz leave and still be over 20 mil over the cap

Foxtrol wrote: »

'Creative' is a term that is troubling when it comes to the cap (or most types of job involving numbers), especially when it is a consistent trend.

Restructures rarely reduce the amount a team owes a players so the same number is going to hit their cap at some point. It is like relying on your credit card to supplement your income, sometimes you can just stay ahead of it but if any problems with your income (like the NFL is seeing this year) and things come crashing down quickly.

Take the Eagles, 2 names listed as potential cuts are Jeffery and Jackson. Despite being older players and 2021 being the last year of their deals, where a team usually should be able to get out easily from a deal, due to both being previously restructured they would cause more dead cap than cap savings if cut - Jeffery ~$10m dead vs ~$8m saved and Jackson ~$6m dead vs ~$5m saved. Aside from dropping Barnett before his 5th year becomes guaranteed, I don't see a clean cut of players they've had on their team for a while. Sure they can do further restructuring but that bill becomes due eventually.

People can point to the Chiefs management this offseason as an example of how things can be done but they are an outlier, as out of the 3 key players extended - 2 were already under contract for the next 2 seasons and the 3rd was already on the franchise tag. Their cap hits were already included in the cap number for 2020 prior to the deals and the players accepted contracts that didn't change it. They are another team that will be in some trouble next year if the cap falls but as they haven't been 'creative' for several years, like the Eagles, they have much more flexibility to cut for greater savings or restructure guys.

The_Honeybadger wrote: »

Yeah I had a look at Eagles on over the cap. It looks really bad right now but they can do several restructures on the big earners and cut Jeffery, Jackson and others. With the carry over from 2020 they will figure it out.

Saints are in a similar position and they’ll be carrying over $20m in dead cap assuming that Brees retires.

I know the $175m figure is being thrown around but that’s very much a worse case scenario. If they get a slate of games on Saturdays it will lessen the blow and the owners can choose to borrow from future years. They won’t want to start blowing up rosters for what is hopefully a temporary business interruption.

phatkev wrote: »

The Jets also reporting 10 false positives from the same lab, sounds like the NFL didnt like the results so decided there was something wrong with the testing process