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GE Exit Poll 10 pm

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Zetor19 wrote: »
    Rte and the media’s dirty campaign the last week backfired big time by the looks of it.

    This for sure. The carry on actually made me angry. Everywhere you went no matter what paper you picked up. The Irish Times had the first 3 pages plastered with propaganda. Men in balaclavas on the 3rd page wtf happened to impartial media in this country?


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    blackcard wrote: »
    One would think that Sinn Fein would transfer to FF more than FG. I would expect FF to get the most seats

    I’d agree. Labour voters tend to transfer to FG but they didn’t do well.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,223 ✭✭✭✭RMAOK


    Another election could well suit Sinn féin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,810 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    christy c wrote: »
    Odds gone to 12/1 for that. FF/SD/Lab/Green now the favourite marginally

    Good I have money on that. Looking like a stretch though with FF on 22%:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    signostic wrote: »
    If the Shinners get into power they will clear out RTE...
    Hopefully


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,964 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    RTE player fecked again?

    You can't feck something again if it's always fecked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,240 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    signostic wrote: »
    If the Shinners get into power they will clear out RTE...

    **** all use that'll do them, they may as well get an exorcist to get rid of the monsters from beneath their beds.

    Both problems are as equally imaginary.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,329 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    That does seem to be the problem. From the RTE figures, it certainly looks like we shall have to raise the voting age to 25+ before permanent damage is done to the country.

    Because everything is awesome at the moment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    Pretty good result, SF don’t get to **** the working class for their fantasy spending and FG get the smack in the mouth they deserve. Anybody over 12 years old voting FF tho can hang their heads in shame


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,810 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    RMAOK wrote: »
    Another election could well suit Sinn féin

    Which is why FF and FG will want to avoid one I would think...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    3 way neck and neck.
    I'd be very surprised if we're not doing it all again within six months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,622 ✭✭✭flexcon


    That does seem to be the problem. From the RTE figures, it certainly looks like we shall have to raise the voting age to 25+ before permanent damage is done to the country.

    Yikes. Let’s not turn into Britain and their way of dividing each other with garbage like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,817 ✭✭✭Darc19


    A government will be near impossible to form unless ff/FG coalition.

    Numbers unlikely to stack up any other way except possibly FF SF green


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    interesting to see what paddy power thinks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Good I have money on that. Looking like a stretch though with FF on 22%:confused:

    That will come through to about 28-30% of the seats though, where for SF it will not.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    How does the transfer system work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,304 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    RMAOK wrote: »
    Another election could well suit Sinn féin
    Your a candidate your a candidate your all candidates!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,461 ✭✭✭✭Zeek12


    RMAOK wrote: »
    That's possibly what could happen as a means of keeping Sinn féin out of government.

    Confidence and supply again, perhaps?

    Only likely government from this is FF/FG

    I reckon the FF vote will be slightly higher than the exit poll suggests. There is still an embarrassment factor there for some voters since 2010....who just won’t admit they voted FF.

    Varadkar is probably breathing a little easier tonight.
    Not a brilliant poll for them. But by no means the predicted FG collapse either


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,234 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    How does the transfer system work?

    Explained here
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_transferable_vote


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭jpfahy


    sdanseo wrote: »
    3 way neck and neck.
    I'd be very surprised if we're not doing it all again within six months.

    Six weeks more like


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,304 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    How does the transfer system work?
    There was a great little video on rte with lines of school children. Will see if I can find


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,381 ✭✭✭Westernyelp


    That does seem to be the problem. From the RTE figures, it certainly looks like we shall have to raise the voting age to 25+ before permanent damage is done to the country.

    Shakin in your right wing boots. Love it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,197 ✭✭✭christy c


    Good I have money on that. Looking like a stretch though with FF on 22%:confused:

    Yeah definitely a stretch, 5/1 which suggests there's no clear favourite


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭Caquas


    No media commentator has yet twigged the real significance of this poll, if it’s accurate.

    It means a “confidence and supply “ arrangement between FF and FG won’t work. Neither party will be within an ass’s roar of a majority, even if the other party abstains. Will they even have a majority if they went into coalition? And we all know they’d rather sup with the “devil” (SF) before forming a coalition together.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,043 ✭✭✭bilbot79


    FF and FG should just amalgamate instead of pretending they're a different party. Picking one over the over is the political version of football fandom


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,386 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    That's some disaster for FF if 22% is true. 41.6% in 2007 (Bertie), 17.4 2011, 24.3 2016 Micheál. Any other party would have ditched him long ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,304 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    How does the transfer system work?

    https://www.rte.ie/amp/1113400/
    Best explanation I've seen in video


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,996 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Ppl want change, simple as.

    Some younger voters in the Universities and right on Millennials want change alright, no doubt.

    But more mature voters who have seen everything seem to be happy enough with a steady ship, even though it is leaking holes everywhere. We have a good economy don't we (stupid), lowest unemployment rate, and so on.

    Many are happy enough with the status quo. And in saying that I do understand the gripes the younger people have regarding housing. But most of the Uni types feck off to ME and elsewhere after we have paid for their tuition and couldn't give a whatnot eventually.

    It's a herd mentality. But it's working and whilst I don't agree with SF and would never give them a scratch ever, in time the old codgers will ease off their mortal coil, and there will/may eventually be a SF led Government. Hope I'm retired to an offshore island by then!

    But credit where it is due just the same, SF pitched to a certain demographic who have never witnessed or heard of nor care that the Army Council, not MLMD is in charge of SF.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 23,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭godtabh


    Zetor19 wrote: »
    Rte and the media’s dirty campaign the last week backfired big time by the looks of it.

    calling out a party for what it is is a dirty campaign?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 904 ✭✭✭Blaze420


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    FF and FG should just amalgamate instead of pretending they're a different party. Picking one over the over is the political version of football fandom

    Picking any of them over the other is pointless, the funding is finite despite what the likes of SF would want people to believe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    GDK_11 wrote: »
    As a Brit living in Ireland the SF vote reminds me so much of the Brexit vote back in the uk. Neither manifesto remotely adds up and I feel like people know that half of what is promised won’t be close to being delivered but I guess it’s a protest vote. Interestingly lots of young ones on the vote


    Politicians in Ireland are the benchmark for other politicians worldwide. They aspire to have that Irish ability to speak out of both sides of their mouths and hope voters develop amnesia come the next election day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,010 ✭✭✭velo.2010


    Fianna Fail missed a trick by not positioning themselves to the left of centre. Sinn Fein have filled that void and are now the party of the left. Labour are no longer a player and the far left support has plateaued.

    I'm surprised that Sinn Fein have done so well with youth voters. Yes, it was expected to gain support from that demographic, but nobody thought to that extent. Is it a protest vote or do young people genuinely believe that Sinn Fiein can do something for them?

    Like I said earlier, more trip ups by a another FF-FG agreement might just push Sinn Fein over the line, next time round.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,931 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The in-fighting in FF tonight would be good to be party too.

    Phones will be glowing red as alliances form. 22% is the same as they finished in 2016. Michael has pedaled furiously to stand still.

    FG have to be happy with that.

    And SF can just sit back now and let it all happen. They cannot lose here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,204 ✭✭✭jos28


    Hurrache wrote: »
    The thing is, our economy is in good shape and pretty much full employment levels, so not a bad state in reality, despite the well publicised social issues.

    I have to agree - major social issues to be sorted but credit has to be given where it's due. When the horrendous reign of Brian Cowen ended I was on a 3 day week and was subsequently made redundant after 23 years. My son graduated in November and within 2 weeks was working and living abroad along with every single graduate in his class. The public service embargo closed Templemore, saw our nursing graduates heading for the airports and newly qualified teachers unable to get near a classroom.
    I'm now employed in a job I love, the son is home and has bought a house.
    We have choices that were not available 10 years ago. I realise that I am only speaking for myself and that the Government owes more to it's citizens but time will tell.


  • Posts: 13,688 ✭✭✭✭ Annalee Old-fashioned Vacuum


    interesting to see what paddy power thinks

    Well, he has just slashed his odds on there being a second general election in 2020 haha.


  • Registered Users Posts: 119 ✭✭Borgo


    PP giving 2/1 for another election


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,810 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Oh God some people are slow.
    I've seen comments online and people actually think this is the result of the election.(I think these are first time voters of all ages).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,191 ✭✭✭RandomViewer


    The shinners will stay in opposition , there not capable or don want to be in government ! Especially a rainbow government

    FF are hungry for power, MM will step aside and let the new leader make a deal with SF. Any deal with FG would destroy both parties next election.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,304 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    So who is more transfer friendly FF or FG generally?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    How does the transfer system work?
    Follow it on Sky Sports. They give a run down on all the latest transfers e.g Joe Blogs goes on loan from Crewe to Wigan


  • Registered Users Posts: 319 ✭✭GusGus


    It’s very bad news for FF. SF Likely to get at least 35 on those figures . FF won’t get near 50 maybe 45/46 . FG will get 44/45 . Given the SF surplus’s this likely to help the other left parties .

    Tbh I don’t really know where this leaves us . Not a great result when we need a government.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,386 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    velo.2010 wrote: »
    Fianna Fail missed a trick by not positioning themselves to the left of centre. Sinn Fein have filled that void and are now the party of the left. Labour are no longer a player and the far left support has plateaued.

    I'm surprised that Sinn Fein have done so well with youth voters. Yes, it was expected to gain support from that demographic, but nobody thought to that extent. Is it a protest vote or do young people genuinely believe that Sinn Fiein can do something for them?

    Like I said earlier, more trip ups by a another FF-FG agreement might just push Sinn Fein over the line, next time round.

    No single party government since the Jack Lynch landslide. Whatever line you think they are going over, it will be in the company of others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,304 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    GusGus wrote: »
    It’s very bad news for FF. SF Likely to get at least 35 on those figures . FF won’t get near 50 maybe 45/46 . FG will get 44/45 . Given the SF surplus’s this likely to help the other left parties .

    Tbh I don’t really know where this leaves us . Not a great result when we need a government.
    Yep sounds right.
    Another election later in year I would think.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,503 ✭✭✭✭Mad_maxx


    velo.2010 wrote: »
    Fianna Fail missed a trick by not positioning themselves to the left of centre. Sinn Fein have filled that void and are now the party of the left. Labour are no longer a player and the far left support has plateaued.

    I'm surprised that Sinn Fein have done so well with youth voters. Yes, it was expected to gain support from that demographic, but nobody thought to that extent. Is it a protest vote or do young people genuinely believe that Sinn Fiein can do something for them?

    Like I said earlier, more trip ups by a another FF-FG agreement might just push Sinn Fein over the line, next time round.

    Michael Martin is far and away the most left wing leader FF have ever had, both economically and socially


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene


    Keep ff out they ruined the country and thousands had to leave over them


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  • Registered Users Posts: 76 ✭✭Down9194


    ismat wrote: »
    The country has a serious problem if 22% are voting for Sinn Fein. A sad day

    Wise up it’s the other 78% that should that need to take a long hard look at where they are going


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Oh God some people are slow.
    I've seen comments online and people actually think this is the result of the election.(I think these are first time voters of all ages).


    The 18-24 year old students who wont have to pay for SF policies no doubt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 398 ✭✭Tommybojangles


    Oh God some people are slow.
    I've seen comments online and people actually think this is the result of the election.(I think these are first time voters of all ages).

    Most of then SF voters most likely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭griffin100


    Shakin in your right wing boots. Love it.

    You do realise you live in one of the most left wing countries in the world? Over 25% of all tax take / >€20bn a year spent on the welfare budget.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    bilbot79 wrote: »
    FF and FG should just amalgamate instead of pretending they're a different party. Picking one over the over is the political version of football fandom

    maybe they should show a bit of maturity and form a coalition if they really believe that SF will be a disaster for the Country.


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