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Snow watch until Sunday 24th (N,W,SW most at risk)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 403 ✭✭Reversal


    This morning's snow in Wexford

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    Wexford looking like the sweet spot again for Saturday night on the 06z Harmonie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭bazlers


    Hi All, what counties are at risk for snow Saturday night Met eireann mention snow/ Sleet showers pushing east. Been away for a bit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 700 ✭✭✭bazlers


    Il stop posting now :):). Sorry.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    There is an inch of snow lying readily at 700 feet. I am sure there will be a lot more tomorrow morning.

    It is only 1.5c here. So I imagine we will have snow falling by 8-9pm at latest. We just need the temperature to come down by a fraction of a degree.

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    I have to say I am surprised how readily the snow is lying up there. It is barely 0c.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,990 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    AuntySnow wrote: »
    Looking at harmonie, Sunday morning could be borderline orange in parts of Leinster East munster and cavan monaghan

    So the Atlantic slop might deliver in parts of the East. Will Eastern dwellers accept it?
    I think it may end up as rain or sleet further West. 9 times out of 10 the milder air mixes things out quicker than expected for us. I hope i am wrong, lets see. I Should do fairly well from the showers tonight anyway.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Donegal Ken


    Can't see any orange warnings for snow been issued by Met Éireann they will stick with a yellow warning unless there's a big change in the forecast models in the coming hours. If parts of the northwest see good accumulations by Saturday morning and then another band of snow on Saturday evening & night they may issue a upgraded warning for the northwest.

    Friday night Saturday morning
    I can see them issuing a status yellow snow /ice warning for the northwest for tonight and Saturday morning Sligo, Leitrim, Donegal, Mayo & Roscommon. Possibly for Cavan and Monaghan also as some showers may make it to southern parts of Ulster.

    Saturday evening and night
    I then think it will be a nationwide warning for snow and ice for Saturday evening and night with a band of sleet and snow giving accumulations and hazardous driving conditions by Sunday morning.

    Further falls of snow could occur later Sunday morning again something that will also have to be watched.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Reversal wrote: »
    And elsewhere around the island it's snowing at 0 metres. :pac:

    The land fetch across southern counties in this westerly helped out the Wexicans and those in the southern half of Kilkenny, south Carlow and east Waterford to see snowfall this morning.

    Mild core came ashore around just north of the Shannon estuary and drifted across towards Wicklow/Arklow.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    Can't see any orange warnings for snow been issued by Met Éireann they will stick with a yellow warning unless there's a big change in the forecast models in the coming hours. If parts of the northwest see good accumulations by Saturday morning and then another band of snow on Saturday evening & night they may issue a upgraded warning for the northwest.

    Friday night Saturday morning
    I can see them issuing a status yellow snow /ice warning for the northwest for tonight and Saturday morning Sligo, Leitrim, Donegal, Mayo & Roscommon. Possibly for Cavan and Monaghan also as some showers may make it to southern parts of Ulster.

    Saturday evening and night
    I then think it will be a nationwide warning for snow and ice for Saturday evening and night with a band of sleet and snow giving accumulations and hazardous driving conditions by Sunday morning.

    Further falls of aniw could occur later Sunday morning again something that will also have to be watched.

    Yes I think this event may bring more widespread low level snowfall.

    Temps are marginal now but we are very close to snow conditions. Once nightfalls I imagine showers will readily to snow.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    Met office have me down for snow showers by 7pm


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,162 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    Yes I think this event may bring more widespread low level snowfall.

    Temps are marginal now but we are very close to snow conditions. Once nightfalls I imagine showers will readily to snow.

    I do hope you get snow!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭highdef


    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    There is an inch of snow lying readily at 700 feet. I am sure there will be a lot more tomorrow morning.

    It is only 1.5c here. So I imagine we will have snow falling by 8-9pm at latest. We just need the temperature to come down by a fraction of a degree.

    That's a massive difference between where you live (assuming there is no lying snow at all there) at about 50m to the readily sticking and accumulating snow in your photos at about 200m. It must be a fairly rapid transition going from wet ground to full on snow cover in that 150m difference in altitude.

    For the Saturday night event, you should be in a prime position as winds are currently forecast to be from the south so you can take full advantage of the cold air coming down from the snowfields of the Sperrins not too far away from you. Should be no marine layer to worry about. I'd be highly surprised if you need to drive anywhere on Sunday morning to share photos and videos with us :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Donegal Ken


    Showers will turn increasing to snow over inland areas this evening tonight across west Ulster and north Connacht. You should have snow snow by Saturday morning.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    highdef wrote: »
    That's a massive difference between where you live (assuming there is no lying snow at all there) at about 50m to the readily sticking and accumulating snow in your photos at about 200m. It must be a fairly rapid transition going from wet ground to full on snow cover in that 150m.

    For the Saturday night event, you should be in a prime position as winds are currently forecast to from the south so you can take full advantage of the cold air coming down from the snowfields of the Sperrins not too far away from you. Should be no marine layer to worry about. I'd be highly surprised if you need to drive anywhere on Sunday morning to share photos and videos with us :D

    Yes there is a big transition, more than typical. From about 500 feet to 700 feet, the ground transitions quickly from wet ground to slush to packed snow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32 polarhullar


    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
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    I have to say I am surprised how readily the snow is lying up there. It is barely 0c.

    You're taking photos of my tracks :pac:

    Benevenagh is beautiful this morning!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,111 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


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    Some snow in E Clare.


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Donegal Ken


    WARNING ISSUED BY MET EIREANN

    Status Yellow - Snow/Ice warning for Cavan, Monaghan, Donegal, Leitrim, Mayo, Roscommon and Sligo
    Met Éireann Weather Warning

    Falls of hail, sleet and snow. Icy and hazardous conditions.

    Valid: 12:00 Friday 22/01/2021 to 12:00 Saturday 23/01/2021

    Issued: 12:00 Friday 22/01/2021


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,326 ✭✭✭highdef


    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    Yes there is a big transition. From about 700 feet to 500 feet it turns from wet ground to packed snow.

    That's about 60m :eek:

    I think I mentioned before that I've see similar on a couple of occasions were I've gone from wet ground at home @ just under 90m ASL to full on sticking and accumulating snow at the top of the nearby hill at just under 150m ASL.

    I don't know about you but I find that the rapid transition from a green landscape to a full on white landscape (and back again) is almost more fascinating than the snow by itself!


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Donegal Ken


    Snow in Letterkenny this morning. This was up around mountain top.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    highdef wrote: »
    That's about 60m :eek:

    I think I mentioned before that I've see similar on a couple of occasions were I've gone from wet ground at home @ just under 90m ASL to full on sticking and accumulating snow at the top of the nearby hill at just under 150m ASL.

    I don't know about you but I find that the rapid transition from a green landscape to a full on white landscape (and back again) is almost more fascinating than the snow by itself!
    Yeah it doesn’t normally happen in that way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 667 ✭✭✭alexonhisown


    Glorious blue skies in east meath, louth border this morning. I am hoping to see lots of snow over weekend, just for something different to look at besides the 4 walls.


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Donegal Ken


    A good covering in Letterkenny, Donegal now.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DonegalWeatherC/status/1352596412861702149


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,990 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    https://youtu.be/ySY9ulHi9r8

    I wish it was like this here!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭BullBauld


    WARNING ISSUED BY MET EIREANN

    Status Yellow - Snow/Ice warning for Cavan, Monaghan, Donegal, Leitrim, Mayo, Roscommon and Sligo
    Met Éireann Weather Warning

    Falls of hail, sleet and snow. Icy and hazardous conditions.

    Valid: 12:00 Friday 22/01/2021 to 12:00 Saturday 23/01/2021

    Issued: 12:00 Friday 22/01/2021

    Yes! Ros, Ros, Ros, Ros


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Donegal Ken


    BullBauld wrote: »
    Yes! Ros, Ros, Ros, Ros

    Northern parts of Roscommon should see some accumulations by Saturday morning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Bucketing down in Letterkenny for the past while, about 2cm covering now. Nice surprise, wasn't really expecting anything today :)

    https://streamable.com/f0yc3s


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Donegal Ken


    Bucketing down in Letterkenny for the past while, about 2cm covering now. Nice surprise, wasn't really expecting anything today :)

    https://streamable.com/f0yc3s

    Much of the models had heavy showers for much of today right into Saturday morning for the northwest region turning increasingly to snow as that colder air moves in . Could be some good accumulations ahead of the band of snow tomorrow evening and night in places.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    highdef wrote: »
    That's about 60m :eek:

    I think I mentioned before that I've see similar on a couple of occasions were I've gone from wet ground at home @ just under 90m ASL to full on sticking and accumulating snow at the top of the nearby hill at just under 150m ASL.

    I don't know about you but I find that the rapid transition from a green landscape to a full on white landscape (and back again) is almost more fascinating than the snow by itself!

    It's really down to the freefall (melting) time of the flakes. The air is not really cooling with height this morning (see Castor Bay sounding just out now). So a flake falling at 1 m/s through an isothermal layer just above 0 degrees will have 10 seconds less melting time for every 10 metres rise in terrain. That's 1 minute less in this particular case, a lot to a snowflake.

    Once on the ground the mass effect slows down melting and allows a layer to build. Sixty metres further down the flake would be more melted and would not accumulate as readily.

    http://www.meteociel.com/cartes_obs/sondage_display.php?id=3918&map=2&date=1611313200&map2=2

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  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Donegal Ken


    MET EIREANN WARNING FOR SATURDAY
    Status Yellow - Snow/Ice warning for Ireland
    Met Éireann Weather Warning

    Falls of hail, sleet and snow. Icy and hazardous conditions.

    Valid: 18:00 Saturday 23/01/2021 to 12:00 Sunday 24/01/2021

    Issued: 12:00 Friday 22/01/2021


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    Sleety here now.. we need more persistent showers to bring the snowline down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭redsteveireland


    One small request, can we keep to one unit of measurement? Metres ASL has been the common unit, using feet is just confusing things, IMO.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    Now a very wet snow despite the positive dew point


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    It’s finally snowing here! All we needed was a prolonged shower.

    https://streamable.com/fqycu4


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭BullBauld


    Northern parts of Roscommon should see some accumulations by Saturday morning.

    Feck Roscommon Town dodgy then?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    Proper snow now. And dew points are positive!

    https://streamable.com/sd2yz8

    Should lie tonight if the showers have this much influence. Temp has been going down constantly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,479 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    If I don't get to see some even west snow here in Mayo, even only a shower, I'm going to very annoyed after all this build up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    One small request, can we keep to one unit of measurement? Metres ASL has been the common unit, using feet is just confusing things, IMO.

    Nooooo!

    I love horizontal distances in miles, vertical distances in metres!

    Rain in millimetres and snow in inches.

    Wind speeds in miles.

    Sorry, I'm one of the awkward ones born between two generations. :D

    You won't change me now! :pac:

    Meanwhile back to the snow-watch:

    Any snow on the ground Monday Morning won't have much shelf life:

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,207 ✭✭✭Kutebride


    Bitter out but lovely blue skies and dry in Meath. Photos from Wicklow inlaws is like a different world on the hills. Foggy, dismal and some lying snow.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,967 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    Glorious blue skies in east meath, louth border this morning. I am hoping to see lots of snow over weekend, just for something different to look at besides the 4 walls.

    you might see a dusting if we get lucky in Meath. You won't see lots of snow till we get a proper and unstable easterly and those are rare as hens teeth.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    Here are the current conditions here. The sleet turned over to snow about 2.3c with a very positive dew point.

    I had rain a week or so ago all night long at 1c. Just goes to show that the dew point isn’t always the factor.

    But looking good for us tonight if the showers keep up.

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    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    Proper snow now. And dew points are positive!

    https://streamable.com/sd2yz8

    Should lie tonight if the showers have this much influence. Temp has been going down constantly.

    Yup that's snow
    I'd be surprised if you don't join some of the rest of us by tonight with settling snow at last


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    Nqp15hhu wrote: »
    Here are the current conditions here. The sleet turned over to snow about 2.3c with a very positive dew point.

    I had rain a week or so ago all night long at 1c. Just goes to show that the dew point isn’t always the factor.

    But looking good for us tonight if the showers keep up.

    uPV4ZYa.jpg

    What's your wet bulb temp ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,186 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    BullBauld wrote: »
    Feck Roscommon Town dodgy then?

    Always dodgy there after dark.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,990 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Gonzo wrote: »
    you might see a dusting if we get lucky in Meath. You won't see lots of snow till we get a proper and unstable easterly and those are rare as hens teeth.

    Jon Hammond reckons there will be one next month. Although he is a bit of a ramper. There are other tentative signs you might get your wish next month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Danno wrote: »
    Nooooo!

    I love horizontal distances in miles, vertical distances in metres!

    Rain in millimetres and snow in inches.

    Wind speeds in miles.

    Sorry, I'm one of the awkward ones born between two generations. :D

    You won't change me now! :pac:

    Meanwhile back to the snow-watch:

    Any snow on the ground Monday Morning won't have much shelf life:

    I prefer to use furlongs per fortnite myself...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    I use feet because it’s easier to visualise to me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    Speak Now wrote: »
    Quite a decent fall, you must have some elevation yeah?

    That clip is about 160m ASL


  • Registered Users Posts: 430 ✭✭Donegal Ken


    Mountain top Letterkenny at a standstill

    https://twitter.com/DonegalWeatherC/status/1352626483378970624


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭Nqp15hhu


    That’s not a local accent! Letterkenny is a bit odd in that it’s widely above 100 metres, there aren’t too many towns at that height here.


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