Dairy Chitchat 3

Water John · 17-02-2019 10:25pm

You could mix it with molasses and dribble it on the silage, messy work. I think it was Whelan that was using Cal Mag flakes.

Keepgrowing · 17-02-2019 10:36pm

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

Is the new housing finished?

Turning out like children’s hospital, budget blown. Concrete finished tomorrow, hang gates, fit Yorkshire boarding, auto feeder install Thursday then fill her

mahoney_j · 17-02-2019 11:16pm

Muddy76 wrote: »

Have had a few cases of milk fever this year.Vet recommended I put some cal mag on the silage.The problem is they are not keen on it.Would I be better off bringing them in through the parlour and feeding them cow nuts which have cal mag mixed at 2oz in 4kgs.Maybe feed them 2kgs a day for a week up to calving.any suggestions appreciated

Got scalded with milk fever few years back ,cows but too well conditioned ,now feed straw to dry cows .for 5/7 days pre calving cows are on normal dry cow minerals and 120 gramms of mag flakes ,tried cal mag made little difference ,it did slow down calving tho cows in Labour way longer

Mooooo · 17-02-2019 11:34pm

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Turning out like children’s hospital, budget blown. Concrete finished tomorrow, hang gates, fit Yorkshire boarding, auto feeder install Thursday then fill her

Hanging gates, cripes you're going all out!

dar31 · 18-02-2019 8:07am

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Turning out like children’s hospital, budget blown. Concrete finished tomorrow, hang gates, fit Yorkshire boarding, auto feeder install Thursday then fill her

Calf house?
Post some pics before it gets dirty, if you've time

alps · 18-02-2019 1:20pm

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Turning out like children’s hospital, budget blown. Concrete finished tomorrow, hang gates, fit Yorkshire boarding, auto feeder install Thursday then fill her

Would you not go back and re tender? Is it in the right place? Is it attached to the maternity ward or the adult ward?

Keepgrowing · 18-02-2019 1:45pm

dar31 wrote: »

Calf house?
Post some pics before it gets dirty, if you've time

I’m not able to post on here. Used to but not now

Sillycave · 18-02-2019 2:29pm

Trying to educate myself with calf rearing

Just wondering how many acres you would need for 10 calves between May and Nov this year? No requirement to take silage just grazing for the period.

What size of paddocks would you make in order to keep fresh grass in front of them every 3 days?

Roughly how much nuts would you feed in this period?

Appreciate any responses and I know a lot depends on how much grass is grown, etc but it is good ground, thanks

Mooooo · 18-02-2019 2:38pm

Depends on age of calves, 3 to 4 acres with a kg or two of meal. May be as easy to use strip wires as make paddocks and move em on that way. If you have older stock on farm best job is leader follower system, put calves in best grass and use the older stock to follow and clean out the field properly. Younger ones are never under pressure and regular moving allows older ones to keep going too

Dakota Dan · 18-02-2019 5:39pm

mahoney_j wrote: »

Got scalded with milk fever few years back ,cows but too well conditioned ,now feed straw to dry cows .for 5/7 days pre calving cows are on normal dry cow minerals and 120 gramms of mag flakes ,tried cal mag made little difference ,it did slow down calving tho cows in Labour way longer

What about half milking them for the first 3 milkings

Mooooo · 18-02-2019 5:54pm

Dakota Dan wrote: »

What about half milking them for the first 3 milkings

I find best if there are issues just give a bottle under the skin after calving

Mooooo · 18-02-2019 6:01pm

Mooooo wrote: »

I find best if there are issues just give a bottle under the skin after calving

First urea result came in at 26.8, on grass plus 6kg 18% nut. No silage. Grass had received no fert, a cover of about 1400 on it. No scc or solids result yet. New load of ration came the other day at 16%, perhaps should of stayed higher as if there are nights like the last two I'll give maize at night.

Keepgrowing · 19-02-2019 9:29am

alps wrote: »

Would you not go back and re tender? Is it in the right place? Is it attached to the maternity ward or the adult ward?

The option to re tender wasn’t offered, in fact there would have been serious implications as we do our own building

It’s not co-located, in fact it’s built on an outfarm to completely remove disease risk (that’s my excuse)

There have been no resignations or dismissals to date and an inquiry is looking doubtful. Sure I suppose someone will pay for it

mahoney_j · 19-02-2019 10:11am

Dakota Dan wrote: »

What about half milking them for the first 3 milkings

Only if they go down ,try best to prevent it with mag flakes calcium bolus pre calving .

K.G. · 19-02-2019 11:14am

feck.looks like milking cowswill be coming back in. first time since calving

blackdog1 · 19-02-2019 11:49am

mahoney_j wrote:

Only if they go down ,try best to prevent it with mag flakes calcium bolus pre calving .

Flakes are hit and miss I find. Better off biting the bullet and feeding them cal mag in feed. (get mill to make it up). Feed 2kg a cow with a bucket not diet feeder(because of bloody crows) and you know exactly what cows are eating and which are not. Also find feeding oats/ barley mix calves and cows are in great condition and you can stretch silage that bit extra too. Well worth the cost in my opinion, they make it up in extra milk.

whelan2 · 19-02-2019 12:05pm

K.G. wrote: »

feck.looks like milking cowswill be coming back in. first time since calving

Nice dry morning here

Buford T. Justice XIX · 19-02-2019 12:39pm

Dry morning but a huge downpour lasting a half hour just finished now. Ground getting a bit stick now.

Keep Sluicing · 19-02-2019 12:59pm

Keepgrowing wrote: »

The option to re tender wasn’t offered, in fact there would have been serious implications as we do our own building

It’s not co-located, in fact it’s built on an outfarm to completely remove disease risk (that’s my excuse)

There have been no resignations or dismissals to date and an inquiry is looking doubtful. Sure I suppose someone will pay for it

I know a good consultant (me) to analyse the cost overrun, and will produce a detailed report (highly generic copy and paste job) but dint worry i wont blame anyone ..... who will i send the bill too

Keepgrowing · 19-02-2019 1:06pm

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

I know a good consultant (me) to analyse the cost overrun, and will produce a detailed report (highly generic copy and paste job) but dint worry i wont blame anyone ..... who will i send the bill too

Send to the lad who’s paying..........oh wait, that’s me!!!

Timmaay · 19-02-2019 1:13pm

Keepgrowing wrote: »

Send to the lad who’s paying..........oh wait, that’s me!!!

The sad thing is his bill to you would probably still be less your share of the tax man's money that has been blown on the hospital so far.

Mooooo · 19-02-2019 1:16pm

First load results came back at bf 4.63 and p 3.62. Scc at 250 and lactose 4.71. Scc high and lactose low. Found a cow with mastitis so will see how scc does with her out. 2 cows I gave a second chance to over the dry period got the road as well, off course they both had heifer calves

Timmaay · 19-02-2019 1:48pm

I need to reseed my 3ac out sandy outwintering paddock, which will be grazed until next winter when it will go back to the same job. Do I go with westerwolds, Italian or just a cheap grazing mix? I'm gonna prb lob it in with the wagtail and roll soon while conditions are good in the field.

mf240 · 19-02-2019 2:04pm

Muddy76 wrote: »

Have had a few cases of milk fever this year.Vet recommended I put some cal mag on the silage.The problem is they are not keen on it.Would I be better off bringing them in through the parlour and feeding them cow nuts which have cal mag mixed at 2oz in 4kgs.Maybe feed them 2kgs a day for a week up to calving.any suggestions appreciated

I put flow mag in the water.

GrasstoMilk · 19-02-2019 4:38pm

mf240 wrote: »

I put flow mag in the water.

Do you use dosatron mf or do you just put it into the dry cows trough out of the drum?

straight · 19-02-2019 5:00pm

On some run of fr bulls here myself at the moment. Seems to be no breaking it. Thank god for sexed straws or I'd have no heifers

mf240 · 19-02-2019 5:03pm

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Do you use dosatron mf or do you just put it into the dry cows trough out of the drum?

Just put it in with a jug.

Mortelaro · 19-02-2019 7:27pm

Needed a first aid kit to replace the old one for the bord bia audit
The nice lady at the local chemist in Pettits superValu made up one for me with everything needed in it,including eye drops,a nice bag and label, for half the price of anywhere else including the local Co Op store
It's the little things

Say my name · 19-02-2019 9:14pm

Timmaay wrote: »

I need to reseed my 3ac out sandy outwintering paddock, which will be grazed until next winter when it will go back to the same job. Do I go with westerwolds, Italian or just a cheap grazing mix? I'm gonna prb lob it in with the wagtail and roll soon while conditions are good in the field.

I wonder being a sandy bank and a small area, could you try some of those cover crop mixes for the lark to see will it change the soil and put a bit of carbon in.
That area is your lobster.

Henwin · 19-02-2019 9:34pm

What products are people using to disinfect the calf pens. I'm using kenocox in a household cleaning spray bottle bit i find i have a very sore throat after using it. I'm kinda worried is it safe to use. We had a bad crypto prob lk am with calves d last few years and so I am extra careful with cleaning and disinfecting pens between calves

whelan2 · 19-02-2019 9:38pm

Henwin wrote: »

What products are people using to disinfect the calf pens. I'm using kenocox in a household cleaning spray bottle bit i find i have a very sore throat after using it. I'm kinda worried is it safe to use. We had a bad crypto prob lk am with calves d last few years and so I am extra careful with cleaning and disinfecting pens between calves

I use interkokask. Get it from my vet. Apply it with a knapsack sprayer after power washing. Are you using halocur or similar? I wear waterproofs, gloves, dust mask and goggles when spraying the sheds

Snowfire · 19-02-2019 10:32pm

Henwin wrote: »

What products are people using to disinfect the calf pens. I'm using kenocox in a household cleaning spray bottle bit i find i have a very sore throat after using it. I'm kinda worried is it safe to use. We had a bad crypto prob lk am with calves d last few years and so I am extra careful with cleaning and disinfecting pens between calves

Did some of the calving pens this morning after cleaning with hyperox. Light mist spray around with the knapsack.

The Rabbi · 19-02-2019 10:33pm

These are handy if you have stored biestings.Just let the 22mm flat bit wear through the cap slowly and trim the rubber so the teat fits inside the cap.

liosnagceann75 · 19-02-2019 11:18pm

I have a calf only a few days old. He is unable to stand on his front hooves and stands instead on the joints. Should i be concerned? I thought he would stand properly given a bit of time. Thanks

Say my name · 19-02-2019 11:30pm

liosnagceann75 wrote: »

I have a calf only a few days old. He is unable to stand on his front hooves and stands instead on the joints. Should i be concerned? I thought he would stand properly given a bit of time. Thanks

Straighten out his feet and..
Make up splints with a few lollipop sticks each side of the joint wrapped in a tight bandage and silage tape wrapped around that and see how he goes.
Usually if it's not up on it's feet in a day or so I'd be doing the above.

Injuryprone · 20-02-2019 2:10am

liosnagceann75 wrote: »

I have a calf only a few days old. He is unable to stand on his front hooves and stands instead on the joints. Should i be concerned? I thought he would stand properly given a bit of time. Thanks

I've had a couple like that before. Nothing to worry about. Time will straighten them out. If you could leave him in a big pen for a while for a bit of exercise, it would probably help a little.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 20-02-2019 3:28am

Henwin wrote: »

What products are people using to disinfect the calf pens. I'm using kenocox in a household cleaning spray bottle bit i find i have a very sore throat after using it. I'm kinda worried is it safe to use. We had a bad crypto prob lk am with calves d last few years and so I am extra careful with cleaning and disinfecting pens between calves

I'd always use a filter mask like you'd get for spraying, a simple one with just an elastic back should be fine for a minute or two while you're spraying. Same thing happens me when I spray the jars with acid to get rid of limescale but the mask stops it.

dar31 · 20-02-2019 9:30am

Henwin wrote: »

What products are people using to disinfect the calf pens. I'm using kenocox in a household cleaning spray bottle bit i find i have a very sore throat after using it. I'm kinda worried is it safe to use. We had a bad crypto prob lk am with calves d last few years and so I am extra careful with cleaning and disinfecting pens between calves

Use knapsack or watering can and spray with pericitic? acid then spread with rhino lime and leave to dry as long as possible

tanko · 20-02-2019 11:53am

Anyone know how much a new Wopa trim master rapid set up hoof care crush costs?

dar31 · 20-02-2019 2:25pm

tanko wrote: »

Anyone know how much a new Wopa trim master rapid set up hoof care crush costs?

If it's a wopa, then about twice the price of any other one. Just get them to throw in a welder with it. Or so my hoof trimmer reckons.

tanko · 20-02-2019 2:44pm

The lad that does the feet/scanning here has bought it.
The old one had some amount of welding done to it alrite but the new one looks much stronger, havent see it in action yet, time will tell.
An 800kg suckler cow thrashing about in a crush puts some pressure on them.

orm0nd · 20-02-2019 3:14pm

any reports from dairy sales ?

calved heifer prices ? mid range to top end.

Timmaay · 20-02-2019 4:58pm

orm0nd wrote: »

any reports from dairy sales ?

calved heifer prices ? mid range to top end.

1400+

Mooooo · 20-02-2019 7:13pm

Jersey calf no 5 just landed, heifer no 5 also. One more left I think. 3 of the fleckveih have calved, all fine in the parlour, don't spring up massively but bag away up after a few days, will be interesting to see how they do. Gentle yokes enough, altho one broke the chain in the parlour going for the bite of ration so likely their appetite will grow anyway

visatorro · 20-02-2019 9:52pm

First cow calved there. Two heifer's calved last week. Very Slow this year. Any other year there would be no panic because we'd normally be swimming! They'll calf eventually! Have earmarked a few of the winter calvers for culling and they'll be gone soon.

whelan2 · 20-02-2019 9:54pm

visatorro wrote: »

First cow calved there. Two heifer's calved last week. Very Slow this year. Any other year there would be no panic because we'd normally be swimming! They'll calf eventually! Have earmarked a few of the winter calvers for culling and they'll be gone soon.

What will you do with the culls?

Timmaay · 20-02-2019 10:00pm

visatorro wrote: »

First cow calved there. Two heifer's calved last week. Very Slow this year. Any other year there would be no panic because we'd normally be swimming! They'll calf eventually! Have earmarked a few of the winter calvers for culling and they'll be gone soon.

Slow start here but 40 calved now and will be another 20 by end of Feb, or 50% calved, 2bh that's enough considering march often a very tricky month for grazing.

GrasstoMilk · 21-02-2019 12:01am

Mooooo wrote: »

Jersey calf no 5 just landed, heifer no 5 also. One more left I think. 3 of the fleckveih have calved, all fine in the parlour, don't spring up massively but bag away up after a few days, will be interesting to see how they do. Gentle yokes enough, altho one broke the chain in the parlour going for the bite of ration so likely their appetite will grow anyway

Jesus your lucky, we've had 3 PB Jersey heifers calve down here and they're s pure nightmare! Calved near 3 weeks now and still kicking like tramps

GrasstoMilk · 21-02-2019 12:02am

Does anyone have the recipe for home made electrolytes?
Never ever had scour so bad. Definitely vaccinating next year

Timmaay · 21-02-2019 12:20am

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Does anyone have the recipe for home made electrolytes?
Never ever had scour so bad. Definitely vaccinating next year

Did you get a scour sample test done? To see what type of scour you got

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