Gang attack Garda in Drogheda

tayto lover · 10-08-2019 11:08pm

The gang were mostly from Balbriggan. Enough said.

iebamm2580 · 10-08-2019 11:10pm

The amount of polish youth must far outnumber African youth, but you rarely if ever hear of polish youth gangs if there is such a thing causing trouble.

Boxcar_Willie · 10-08-2019 11:13pm

They booked a "party" in a pub on West St which turned out to be a rave .
When security staff eventually got them out it all started in the street.
They were 90% African youths.
The Garda got a hell of a doing over . Two very deep slashes to his face , I have seen pics of the injuries sustained and in my opinion they were caused by a blade.
5 arrests made .
West St has very good cctv so I would be hopeful that the Gardai will get to the bottom of this .

emilymemily · 10-08-2019 11:18pm

Theyre a gang from Balbriggan,
I was teaching in a school last year, a group of boys in one of my classes where from Balbriggan town, these boys were hard as nails and regularly got into trouble, during the class I would often over hear them talking about a large gang of black lads in Balbriggan that they were terrified of.
Id never have expected these lads to be afraid of anyone as they were so outwardly tough but they were openly fearful of this particular group of black youths in the town.
Theyre well known around the Balbriggan area and are apparently very dangerous.
Not a great start to the Fleah this year.

greencap · 10-08-2019 11:18pm

If the courts dont absolutely hammer any guilty parties it will set a bad precedent.

Make an example of them.

iebamm2580 · 10-08-2019 11:18pm

Boxcar_Willie wrote: »

They booked a "party" in a pub on West St which turned out to be a rave .
When security staff eventually got them out it all started in the street.
They were 90% African youths.
The Garda got a hell of a doing over . Two very deep slashes to his face , I have seen pics of the injuries sustained and in my opinion they were caused by a blade.
5 arrests made .
West St has very good cctv so I would be hopeful that the Gardai will get to the bottom of this .

Minor facial injury reported on paper s and youths released.

punisher5112 · 10-08-2019 11:20pm

Gardai need tazers and better training....

tuxy · 10-08-2019 11:22pm

greencap wrote: »

If the courts dont absolutely hammer any guilty parties it will set a bad precedent.

Make an example of them.

I believe this group are under 18, what's the usual punishment for this group that have committed assaults?
Will the fact a Gadra was attacked have a big impact on the punishment?

J Madone · 10-08-2019 11:23pm

Nothing about the attack on the guard in the journal.ie.
If their is a hint of new Irish causing problems they don't cover it

Boxcar_Willie · 10-08-2019 11:23pm

iebamm2580 wrote: »

Minor facial injury reported on paper s and youths released.

Two very deep lacerations , one on the forehead about 2 inches long , another on the cheek running from just under the eye to the chin.
I wouldn't call them minor injuries .

10-08-2019 11:24pm

emilymemily wrote: »

Theyre a gang from Balbriggan,
I was teaching in a school last year, a group of boys in one of my classes where from Balbriggan town, these boys were hard as nails and regularly got into trouble, during the class I would often over hear them talking about a large gang of black lads in Balbriggan that they were terrified of.
Id never have expected these lads to be afraid of anyone as they were so outwardly tough but they were openly fearful of this particular group of black youths in the town.
Theyre well known around the Balbriggan area and are apparently very dangerous.
Not a great start to the Fleah this year.

Fleadh hasn't started yet and this has nothing to do with it. Bunch of scum bags from out of town hire a function room for a non existent birthday party to have a rave.

You assault a Garda like that you do 10 simple as.

iebamm2580 · 10-08-2019 11:25pm

Boxcar_Willie wrote: »

Two very deep lacerations , one on the forehead about 2 inches long , another on the cheek running from just under the eye to the chin.
I wouldn't call them minor injuries .

I know man, I'm just highlighting the media spin.

emilymemily · 10-08-2019 11:26pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Fleadh hasn't started yet and this has nothing to do with it. Bunch of scum bags from out of town hire a function room for a non existent birthday party to have a rave.

You assault a Garda like that you do 10 simple as.

I never said it was to do with the Fleadh, it's not a good look for the town and no doubt will deter people from going to Drogheda this week.

gctest50 · 10-08-2019 11:27pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Gardai need tazers and better training....

A gang will just take it off the Garda and they'd need medical help to retrieve it

Gardai are failing, it's going to get really bad

tuxy · 10-08-2019 11:27pm

J Madone wrote: »

Nothing about the attack on the guard in the journal.ie.
If their is a hint of new Irish causing problems they don't cover it

How did you even end up on the Journal?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/five-arrested-and-garda-viciously-assaulted-after-public-order-incident-at-drogheda-pub-38392037.html

Sharp MZ700 · 10-08-2019 11:27pm

Imagine being a husband or wife of a Garda in this country when you see this shìt being pushed underground. I hope those two lads are ok.

10-08-2019 11:28pm

Stop the parents rent allowance and watch it stop...

greencap · 10-08-2019 11:29pm

tuxy wrote: »

I believe this group are under 18, what's the usual punishment for this group that have committed assaults?
Will the fact a Gadra was attacked have a big impact on the punishment?

I couldn't tell you.

But if the judiciary won't throw the book at anyone who touches the gards then the whole system gets weakened.

someone mentioned possible deportations if they have the relevant status.
i'd support that too, can't send out the message that we'll both help you and then let you attack us. thats just writing 'complete suckers' across our foreheads.

(im not some kind of garda fanboy or angry pensioner btw, even if my post sounds like i have a son who's a garda and a stick which i wave at the screen, not a gammon, promise)

10-08-2019 11:29pm

emilymemily wrote: »

I never said it was to do with the Fleadh, it's not a good look for the town and no doubt will deter people from going to Drogheda this week.

Yes you did "Not a great start to the Fleadh this year"

El_Bee · 10-08-2019 11:29pm

They tried being tough on crime in the States and look how that panned out, we a need a more holistic approach to try and understand these youths and help dismantle the racist power structures they are lashing out against.

gctest50 · 10-08-2019 11:30pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Stop the parents rent allowance and watch it stop...

They'll just go out and steal

Duke O Smiley · 10-08-2019 11:31pm

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

You’d wonder where the armed gardai are for situations like this?

BLM, dontcha know

There'd be uproar if an armed response unit so much as drove past them for a look

Atlantic Dawn · 10-08-2019 11:33pm

Gardai need bodycams before they are called racists.

punisher5112 · 10-08-2019 11:33pm

El_Bee wrote: »

They tried being tough on crime in the States and look how that panned out, we a need a more holistic approach to try and understand these youths and help dismantle the racist power structures they are lashing out against.

In most cases they're guests here, I didn't invite them or ask them to carry on the way they are....
We had nothing to do with how they think or believe they were treati100s of years ago ....

This rubbish annoys me....

My dad had it much harder then them and the was 50s Ireland ....

F#ck this shi£

Tilikum17 · 10-08-2019 11:33pm

Give the guards guns.

Train them to use them

Simple.

4068ac1elhodqr · 10-08-2019 11:34pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Stop the parents rent allowance and watch it stop...

Bit too late, the (formerly) open arms of Denmark, had to resort to this imposing direct integration policy (basic values, traditions and language skills) on their new ghetto kids.

If the youngsters didn't attend, the parents got their welfare payments taken.
Desperate times, desperate measures.

eagle eye · 10-08-2019 11:35pm

El_Bee wrote:

They tried being tough on crime in the States and look how that panned out, we a need a more holistic approach to try and understand these youths and help dismantle the racist power structures they are lashing out against.

Love it, what about all those people doing life for murder, should we find a nice beach for them somewhere with lots of love so their minds can heal and they can resume their lives as good people?

punisher5112 · 10-08-2019 11:36pm

Tilikum17 wrote: »

Give the guards guns.

Train them to use them

Simple.

Unfortunately that will not work and I honestly wouldn't be happy with even 10% allowed as so many are poor at their job....

We need rules and regulations and laws where they are backed up by the law and judicial system.....

billie1b · 10-08-2019 11:38pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You assault a Garda like that you do 10 simple as.

Not if you’re black, won’t even get a slap on the wrist

lola85 · 10-08-2019 11:39pm

Sharp MZ700 wrote: »

Imagine being a husband or wife of a Garda in this country when you see this shìt being pushed underground. I hope those two lads are ok.

Sure elected TDs like Paul Murphy openly disrespect the gards with microphones so what do we expect.

Gatling · 10-08-2019 11:43pm

I'll expect no charges will be brought against the young god fearing Christians followed by claims of Gardai brutality against minorities

gctest50 · 10-08-2019 11:43pm

Tilikum17 wrote: »

Give the guards guns.

Train them to use them

Simple.

Won't work, they're "brave" and they don't care :

J Madone · 10-08-2019 11:44pm

tuxy wrote: »

How did you even end up on the Journal?

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/five-arrested-and-garda-viciously-assaulted-after-public-order-incident-at-drogheda-pub-38392037.html

I'm referring specifically about the journals lack of coverage on certain types of stories.

alta stare · 10-08-2019 11:46pm

Mounted Gardai should arrest those involved and march them down the street in handcuffs and a rope. That will show em.

sdanseo · 10-08-2019 11:54pm

It's completely wrong to jump to conclusions that a group of any particular race or ethnicity are guilty of something on the basis of their race alone.

It's also completely wrong to deny what I would consider blatant evidence that a particular group were responsible on the grounds of political correctness.

There is a balance to be had between the brits locking people up for angry tweets and the Trump or Duterte attitudes of provoking hatred.

The crime needs to be investigated and dealt with the same way regardless of who was at fault.
If there is a proven correlation between an increase in immigration and an increase in crime in a particular area, then putting two and two together and coming up with four is not racism, it's logic.

Not allowing that discussion or calling it racist is not only incorrect, it is essentially reverse racism. If the crime was by a white Irish person, an equal number of people would be calling for swift justice, and there would be much less noise about it.

I believe entirely in equality. But only when it works both ways and treats everyone equally.

10-08-2019 11:54pm

gctest50 wrote: »

They'll just go out and steal

They won't. They don't like paying for stuff that others can get for free. With stolen goods or cash that's "rightfull" theirs
Tough measures are needed. Hit the pockets.

Danzy · 10-08-2019 11:59pm

El_Bee wrote: »

They tried being tough on crime in the States and look how that panned out, we a need a more holistic approach to try and understand these youths and help dismantle the racist power structures they are lashing out against.

Lol

fullstop · 11-08-2019 12:20am

Esse85 wrote: »

In Maccy D's stocking up before the big macs run out.

Stupid and childish post.

washman3 · 11-08-2019 12:24am

El_Bee wrote: »

They tried being tough on crime in the States and look how that panned out, we a need a more holistic approach to try and understand these youths and help dismantle the racist power structures they are lashing out against.

Sweet Jesus.!!!
i cant believe i'm reading this.

And to crown it all, you seem to firmly believe your solution will work.:mad:

tuxy · 11-08-2019 12:25am

washman3 wrote: »

Sweet Jesus.!!!
i cant believe i'm reading this.

And to crown it all, you seem to firmly believe your solution will work.:mad:

It didn't work in the states?

iebamm2580 · 11-08-2019 12:28am

washman3 wrote: »

Sweet Jesus.!!!
i cant believe i'm reading this.

And to crown it all, you seem to firmly believe your solution will work.:mad:

Man its an obvious troll, don't reply to it, it will only derail the thread.

RobbieMD · 11-08-2019 12:44am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Unfortunately that will not work and I honestly wouldn't be happy with even 10% allowed as so many are poor at their job....

We need rules and regulations and laws where they are backed up by the law and judicial system.....

A lot more than 10% do carry firearms

punisher5112 · 11-08-2019 12:46am

RobbieMD wrote: »

A lot more than 10% do carry firearms

Oh SH1t really......

Well to be honest I still stands by what I said most couldn't be given that much power.

RobbieMD · 11-08-2019 12:49am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Oh SH1t really......

Well to be honest I still stands by what I said most couldn't be given that much power.

But it would appear that a lot are given that power and don’t misuse it?

punisher5112 · 11-08-2019 12:52am

RobbieMD wrote: »

But it would appear that a lot are given that power and don’t misuse it?

Well I've come across a few which I will honestly say I wouldn't wish what they done to me to do on anyone.,..

Was brought to court 4 times on fake charges and had independent witnesses stating the same oh and he even changed witness names so they couldn't be found....

What a scum a in such a position.

Have proof and statements also showing copy and paste of exact same spelling errors.

RobbieMD · 11-08-2019 12:56am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Well I've come across a few which I will honestly say I wouldn't wish what they done to me to do on anyone.,..

Was brought to court 4 times on fake charges and had independent witnesses stating the same oh and he even changed witness names so they couldn't be found....

What a scum a in such a position.

Have proof and statements also showing copy and paste of exact same spelling errors.

Certainly sounds like it.

Just to be sure though, when I said power I was quoting you about the power of carrying a firearm and not just the general powers a Garda has

Get Real · 11-08-2019 1:03am

This is where the country is f###ed. It's a lose lose for the guards here. To prevent this incident happening a -totally justifiable- use of a baton would be needed before the situation got to this point.

The problem with that is, there'd be a video out of a guard beating "peaceful" people. And they'd be hounded. And they'd be judged. And they'd get in trouble.

And the danger is, out of context, such a video would cause people who now have sympathy for the guard, to condemn him for his action.

It's only in the context of hindsight and "well, look what did happen" that he's on the ground being kicked in the head, people think "okay, well maybe actually, given all facts, the baton use in the first place was warranted"

Yet if he did take that course of action, the ten seconds of it would be on the news and people ringing Joe Duffy.

So what is it people want?

It's a lose lose case. Don't use reasonable force, this happens- they can't do anything, where were the armed guards, why has it come to this- etc etc. Use reasonable force, you're condemned by social media.

You'll always have a significant amount of people criticising one decision or the other. When there are only two decisions. Someone's son putting on socks and boots in the morning for that. F@@k that.

tuxy · 11-08-2019 1:05am

RobbieMD wrote: »

A lot more than 10% do carry firearms

More than 10% carry firearms or more than 10% are authorised to go retrieve a gun from the safe in the station in certain circumstance?

gctest50 · 11-08-2019 1:07am

Get Real wrote: »

..........

use of a baton would be needed before the situation got to this point.

.........

When he is on the ground, they'll take it off him and beat him with it

Varik · 11-08-2019 1:09am

gctest50 wrote: »

When he is on the ground, they'll take it off him and beat him with it

Maybe it should be standard procedure for them to get into the fetal position at the start.

No reason to fight back it might antagonise the feral ****es.

Gang attack Garda in Drogheda

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