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  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Phrisbo


    Can’t decide whether to postpone end of May date back to late summer or to stick it out and see what happens. I’d be delighted with 25. If I want any kind of decent date at the venue I feel I should make a call on it this week.

    It looks like the early 5th April easing won’t include an increase on indoor gatherings to 25. It will be outdoor meet ups and sport etc.

    But if there’s another easing at end of April start of May it’s impossible to predict if it will move the wedding number or not. I think that could be non essential retail and maybe services like barbers etc.

    It looks like all of hospitality will be closed until end of June. All the business supports were extended from 5th March to end of June, maybe there’s a message in that on what they’re thinking.


  • Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭Goose76


    Phrisbo wrote: »
    Can’t decide whether to postpone end of May date back to late summer or to stick it out and see what happens. I’d be delighted with 25. If I want any kind of decent date at the venue I feel I should make a call on it this week.

    It looks like the early 5th April easing won’t include an increase on indoor gatherings to 25. It will be outdoor meet ups and sport etc.

    But if there’s another easing at end of April start of May it’s impossible to predict if it will move the wedding number or not. I think that could be non essential retail and maybe services like barbers etc.

    It looks like all of hospitality will be closed until end of June. All the business supports were extended from 5th March to end of June, maybe there’s a message in that on what they’re thinking.

    I think the wedding numbers override the indoor gathering rule. each level for numbers of guests at weddings says 'regardless of venue'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Phrisbo


    Goose76 wrote: »
    I think the wedding numbers override the indoor gathering rule. each level for numbers of guests at weddings says 'regardless of venue'.

    I agree. They’ve abandoned the levels in that it’s been reported repeatedly that they won’t move from one level to another again.

    Instead they’re taking it one restriction at a time with breaks in between. Yet the levels are still there... if they’re not going to declare that the country moving on to level 4 or level 3 then what’s the point of the levels? Isn’t that literally what they’re designed to do?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭Michellenman


    https://touch.boards.ie/thread/2058148612/1/#post115892026

    This thread might be useful.

    My brother got his deposit back following a letter to the venue from his solicitor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 redheadcork


    Phrisbo wrote: »
    I agree. They’ve abandoned the levels in that it’s been reported repeatedly that they won’t move from one level to another again.

    Where did you see it mentioned they won’t move from one level to another?
    First I heard of this, I assumed as others did that this was the point of the levels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    Where did you see it mentioned they won’t move from one level to another?
    First I heard of this, I assumed as others did that this was the point of the levels.

    Based on past experience, I wouldn't expect them to move cleanly from one level to another either. They've always seemed to use it as more of à la carte menu! Level 3 plus, level 5 minus and so on.

    Even at the moment, we're way beyond level 5. We're in a not so hypothetical level 6, which isn't even captured on the plan.

    The plan talks about the following, when looking beyond April 5th:
     Areas for consideration if the situation improves sufficiently will include:
    o Some easing of restrictions on outdoor activities and meetings beyond 1 other
    household.
    o Consideration of extending the current 5km limit.
    o Staggered start of easing of other areas of activity with a focus on outdoor activities
    including sport and some areas of construction.

    I.e. not a clean cut move to any particular level outlined in the plan.

    It also states that any further easing of restrictions after 5th April will need a further 3-4 week period to allow for assessment of the impact of changes.

    This whole process is going to be incredibly slow going and we really have no idea when they'll give the green light for more guests to attend weddings again. Sure they've no clue themselves...


  • Registered Users Posts: 522 ✭✭✭Raisins


    Where did you see it mentioned they won’t move from one level to another?
    First I heard of this, I assumed as others did that this was the point of the levels.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/q-a-what-can-we-expect-in-today-s-revised-living-with-covid-plan-1.4492014?mode=amp

    “The idea is to take individual small steps, measure, and then hopefully proceed, sources say - rather than wholesale shifts between levels which unlock a whole range of activities all at once”.

    That’s not necessarily gospel but it was mentioned in the papers that the future would be using more individual measures and less levels.


  • Registered Users Posts: 23 redheadcork


    woodchuck wrote: »
    Based on past experience, I wouldn't expect them to move cleanly from one level to another either. They've always seemed to use it as more of à la carte menu! Level 3 plus, level 5 minus and so on.

    Even at the moment, we're way beyond level 5. We're in a not so hypothetical level 6, which isn't even captured on the plan.

    The plan talks about the following, when looking beyond April 5th:


    I.e. not a clean cut move to any particular level outlined in the plan.

    It also states that any further easing of restrictions after 5th April will need a further 3-4 week period to allow for assessment of the impact of changes.

    This whole process is going to be incredibly slow going and we really have no idea when they'll give the green light for more guests to attend weddings again. Sure they've no clue themselves...

    Ya we are nearly in a level 6 aren’t we. And they made a haims of it before Christmas so they’re going to be more cautious. We have decided to postpone to October. I haven’t been able to say it out loud though, it’s very disappointing. But I think we won’t see things improve enough. We want more than 6. And I don’t want to be holding out hope for it either. We will postpone once and if the situation is as bad in October, which I doubt, we are just doing it.
    Half tempted to get a blessing on our original wedding date.
    Have ye decided woodchuck?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    I think we're going to postpone to September or October. We just got a list of dates from our venue this evening, so we need to contact our other suppliers now to see if we can find a date that all/most are available. Hopefully we can pin down a date soon enough. Our original date from last year is available with our venue, so it would be nice if that could be our "new" date, but we'd need to get very lucky with all of our suppliers.

    We're hoping things will be better by then due to the vaccine rollout. We're reluctant to go into the winter months though. Even if things go well with the vaccines, we can see the government ramping up the restrictions again in winter due to people gather indoors, the fear of variants and the fear of the hospitals becoming overwhelmed.

    I don't think we'll bother with a ceremony or the legal bit before that. It seems a bit pointless and stressful doing 2 weddings only a few months apart. It would only be because of the fear of one of us dying and the other being lumped with inheritance tax, but I don't want the fear of something that is incredibly unlikely to happen to dictate our decision.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭Michellenman


    I’m glad to hear you’ve come to a decision woodchuck. I’ve felt so sorry for you recently with all the difficulties you’ve had. I hope this gives you some peace of mind and takes some of the pressure off you now and that your family becomes more supportive with the longer lead time. It would be so nice to have your original date this year too. Nearly seems like fate! Best of luck with your suppliers, if you aren’t able to keep some of them I’m sure people here will have lots of recommendations :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    woodchuck wrote: »
    Our original date from last year is available with our venue, so it would be nice if that could be our "new" date, but we'd need to get very lucky with all of our suppliers.

    We've gotten pretty lucky... the only person we haven't heard back from yet is the florist, but all our other suppliers are available on the "new" date (i.e. our original date from last year). So we've locked that in now. Hopefully the florist will be available too, but sure we'll sort something out if not.

    Plenty more loose ends to organise, but feel better for having made the decision anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭Michellenman


    Amazing news! Thrilled for you woodchuck :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,012 ✭✭✭Officer999


    Hi guys, following this thread with interest. In the same boat as most others, we have a June wedding. We’re going to have the ceremony and a reception after even if it is just the 6 guests.

    We had originally a photographer and videographer booked. While we’ll definitely be keeping the photographer, is it really worth having a videographer on the day with such small numbers? If it is 25 allowed, we definitely will but for 6 I’m not so sure?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    If you can only have 6 guests, could you hire the videographer for the ceremony only? I imagine they're more amenable to shorter bookings atm, with fewer weddings going ahead. It could be worth asking the question and seeing how much it would cost. The ceremony is probably the main part you'll want to look back on!


  • Registered Users Posts: 74 ✭✭AppleD


    Officer999 wrote: »
    Hi guys, following this thread with interest. In the same boat as most others, we have a June wedding. We’re going to have the ceremony and a reception after even if it is just the 6 guests.

    We had originally a photographer and videographer booked. While we’ll definitely be keeping the photographer, is it really worth having a videographer on the day with such small numbers? If it is 25 allowed, we definitely will but for 6 I’m not so sure?



    This comes down to personal choice really. I wouldn’t have a videographer if it’s just 6 but you might prefer to have one. Our videographer is expensive enough and I just couldn’t justify it for 6 people. Not much to video apart from the ceremony- like with 6 people make up and hair ppl are not allowed so there wouldn’t be much footage of the morning. Not a lot to film after the ceremony either. A photographer would be enough I’d say.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 603 ✭✭✭zedhead


    Anyone here tried the loius copeland virtual appointment for suits? My partner really wants a new suit for the wedding but obviously all shops are closed. I see Louis Copeland are doing virtual appointments but I wonder how that would work with fitting etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭confusticated


    We did, tbh it was fairly pointless, they showed us some suits and fabrics but it was very hard to see colours and textures on camera. The guys running it were nice but it was clearly frustrating them too to be trying to explain things or holding things up close to the camera to get it into focus. I think they are doing in-store appointments for extreme circumstances (presume just funerals and weddings) so worth contacting them if you're stuck for time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 603 ✭✭✭zedhead


    We did, tbh it was fairly pointless, they showed us some suits and fabrics but it was very hard to see colours and textures on camera. The guys running it were nice but it was clearly frustrating them too to be trying to explain things or holding things up close to the camera to get it into focus. I think they are doing in-store appointments for extreme circumstances (presume just funerals and weddings) so worth contacting them if you're stuck for time.

    Not quite stuck for time. We have until the first week of May so will see how things go towards the end of March and then make a call.


  • Registered Users Posts: 793 ✭✭✭French Toast


    zedhead wrote: »
    Anyone here tried the loius copeland virtual appointment for suits? My partner really wants a new suit for the wedding but obviously all shops are closed. I see Louis Copeland are doing virtual appointments but I wonder how that would work with fitting etc?

    Phone a few of the shops you were considering buying/hiring from. Some may facilitate trying on a few suits as they're open but behind closed doors for those unfortunately needing funeral suits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 598 ✭✭✭Tij da feen


    I'm looking at getting my suit from a crowd in Scotland. I asked them for some fabrics swatches of what I'm interested in and they're sending them my way. Might be worth asking any prospective place if they'll facilitate that so you can see the fabric in person.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 20,686 ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Just had to cancel our original postponed wedding for a number of reasons out of our control (not.covid).

    Out a fair whack of money, and unsure if insurance is going cover any of it.

    If anyone is looking for a venue in west Wicklow on oct 16th it's now free.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,313 ✭✭✭Ankhyu


    Attending an online wedding fair now. Bit disappointed we don't get to go to one in person, but still a bit excited nonetheless :)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I'm sure this has come up before but I'll ask again, when registering intent to marry must you have your passport? My passport application is stuck because of Covid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭Michellenman


    I think drivers license or public services card is sufficient too? I would drop them a mail, the Dublin office are very quick to reply anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,313 ✭✭✭Ankhyu


    I'm sure this has come up before but I'll ask again, when registering intent to marry must you have your passport? My passport application is stuck because of Covid.

    We got our green folder recently, I was able to use my driving licence but also gave a copy of my out of date passport and it was grand


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭cazzer22


    Does anyone think 25 is still possible for the 5th of April announcement?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,457 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    cazzer22 wrote: »
    Does anyone think 25 is still possible for the 5th of April announcement?


    I'm thinking that they will announce that 25 people will be allowed from ~May 19th onwards if Covid-19 case numbers go down and vaccination numbers go up etc... just my opinion obviously.


  • Registered Users Posts: 603 ✭✭✭zedhead


    cazzer22 wrote: »
    Does anyone think 25 is still possible for the 5th of April announcement?

    No i don't think so. We're holding out on our final decision for the 5th of April announcement but I would say it will be some hybrid of the levels. We may be allowed leave our 5k and meet a few people out doors but nothing else will be lifted until mid may.

    We've venue provisionally booked for the 6 people wedding and the plan is to go ahead and then have an evening reception in our original venue later in the year. We are now half considering scrapping the evening reception - losing our deposit but saving on the rest of the costs and just use the money for a big honeymoon when we can travel. In two minds as I do want to celebrate with everyone but it may feel so disconnected from the wedding in 9 months time or whatever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    cazzer22 wrote: »
    Does anyone think 25 is still possible for the 5th of April announcement?

    I'm sorry, but realistically, no. Every story in the media indicates that they're considering a very small easing of restrictions only for 5th April. They've mentioned things like construction, outdoor activities and the 5km limit. Honestly, it feels like even those are in jeopardy with the cases numbers levelling off lately. I'd bet good money that there won't be any announcement about weddings on 5th April.

    Sorry :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭cazzer22


    woodchuck wrote: »
    I'm sorry, but realistically, no. Every story in the media indicates that they're considering a very small easing of restrictions only for 5th April. They've mentioned things like construction, outdoor activities and the 5km limit. Honestly, it feels like even those are in jeopardy with the cases numbers levelling off lately. I'd bet good money that there won't be any announcement about weddings on 5th April.

    Sorry :(

    I think you're probably right, but I have this weird feeling it will go up to 25 and I can't explain it or shake it. Realistically it will probably stay at 6.
    They are so unpredictable and it seems so unfair given that other weddings until the 2nd of January when numbers were so high were allowed to have 25. They are just making it up at this stage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭cazzer22


    I'm thinking that they will announce that 25 people will be allowed from ~May 19th onwards if Covid-19 case numbers go down and vaccination numbers go up etc... just my opinion obviously.

    Good point. Here's hoping, but think that it's probably going to be May for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭confusticated


    I don't know what to hope for at this stage. We're May 22nd with a backup of July. Will go ahead with 25, not with 6, but if they only announce the increase in May we'll be fairly under pressure with sorting outfits and the like. Although at this stage I don't care if everyone is in jeans once they're there!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭nikpmup


    After a lot of thought we've decided to cancel our wedding. We were originally booked for this April, then we pushed it back to August but even though there'll probably be some lifting of restrictions by then, we aren't at all confident that things will be back to normal, especially with the vaccine rollout so painfully slow. Like everyone I suppose we wanted all of our friends and family there to celebrate and don't want to spend all that time & money on a restricted day. Also, we actually got married in September in the registry office, and the further off the wedding was getting pushed the less keen we were. So, we called the hotel yesterday and cancelled. We'll spend the money on the trip of a lifetime when we can travel. If anyone is after a smallish Dublin City venue on August 13th pm me and I'll let you know who they are! They have been outstanding to deal with, both when postponing the original date and now - they've let us use our deposit to book their penthouse for next February for my husband's 50th, so we're not out a penny. We've also got a great recommendation for our photographer (a friend of ours who's work is amazing) and our band.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭fire_man


    Anyone getting married in November & December 2021?What are ye hoping for in numbers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33 ShortAPennt


    Can i ask for anybody going ahead for April/May/June/July/Aug. Did you mention anything about covid on your invites?

    I'm not entirely sure what the etiquite is. Do we not mention it all.... or do we add a note saying that we are aware of current circumstance and all guidelines will be followed for your safety.....

    Would really appreciate anybody's thoughts on this as I don't have a clue what to do...

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 172 ✭✭Garrigai


    fire_man wrote: »
    Anyone getting married in November & December 2021?What are ye hoping for in numbers?

    Hoping for 100+ but will go ahead with 25. (really hoping for no restrictions)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    Can i ask for anybody going ahead for April/May/June/July/Aug. Did you mention anything about covid on your invites?

    I'm not entirely sure what the etiquite is. Do we not mention it all.... or do we add a note saying that we are aware of current circumstance and all guidelines will be followed for your safety.....

    I'm September, but I don't think I'll be mentioning Covid on the actual invitations. I'll be including a link to our wedding website though, which includes information about Covid (e.g. precautions that the venue are taking, where/when masks are required etc).

    If you're not doing a wedding website though, you could also include an extra sheet with the invites that includes information about this? Similar to the way some people slip in a note about directions or accommodation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Teach30


    Can i ask for anybody going ahead for April/May/June/July/Aug. Did you mention anything about covid on your invites?

    I'm not entirely sure what the etiquite is. Do we not mention it all.... or do we add a note saying that we are aware of current circumstance and all guidelines will be followed for your safety.....

    Would really appreciate anybody's thoughts on this as I don't have a clue what to do...

    Thanks

    Yikes I’m end of June haven’t done anything about sorting invites yet. Wouldn’t mention covid on them though!

    Could anyone advise on when to go about getting invitations? I’d someone asked to make them but they haven’t got in contact with me so I assume they will when necessary?

    Also I don’t know how many to order so at €10 a pop don’t feel like wasting money on ordering too many.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    Teach30 wrote: »
    Could anyone advise on when to go about getting invitations? I’d someone asked to make them but they haven’t got in contact with me so I assume they will when necessary?

    Also I don’t know how many to order so at €10 a pop don’t feel like wasting money on ordering too many.

    Given how common postponements have become, I wouldn't assume that she'll get in touch with you. I'd get in touch with her to let her know that you're still planning on going ahead in June and to get clarity around the timeframes involved for doing your invites.

    10euro is very expensive. I'd check if there is a minimum number required for her to do them. Closer to the time, maybe you could just get the minimum number printed (whether that's 6 or 25) and send those to your nearest and dearest. If the numbers for wedding guests increases even closer to the date, but it's too late to get more of those invites printed, then you could just get some additional invites made up quicker and cheaper online (e.g. optimal print or vista print).


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    Teach30 wrote: »
    Yikes I’m end of June haven’t done anything about sorting invites yet. Wouldn’t mention covid on them though!

    Could anyone advise on when to go about getting invitations? I’d someone asked to make them but they haven’t got in contact with me so I assume they will when necessary?

    Also I don’t know how many to order so at €10 a pop don’t feel like wasting money on ordering too many.

    Out of curiosity, what are you getting for €10 each? Seems quite high for invites!


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Out of curiosity, what are you getting for €10 each? Seems quite high for invites!

    Some stationary companies create amazing invites, they are like works of art. It's possible Teach is getting hers done from one of those.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    Some stationary companies create amazing invites, they are like works of art. It's possible Teach is getting hers done from one of those.

    Oh I'm sure! I'm just curious what I could have gotten if I wasn't such a cheapskate! :)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Oh I'm sure! I'm just curious what I could have gotten if I wasn't such a cheapskate! :)

    Ah you not a cheapskate! :) We couldn't justify spending a lot of money on the invites. I love the idea of buying really beautiful ones but not the reality. We decided to get savethedate.ie to do ours. The designer, Andreea is lovely to deal with. It's costing about €70 ish I think for 50. We aren't getting a whole suite though, just the invite.


  • Registered Users Posts: 539 ✭✭✭Teach30


    Out of curiosity, what are you getting for €10 each? Seems quite high for invites!

    Would you believe I can hardly remember it’s so long since I spoke with the girl making them! I just liked the look of what she did and didn’t shop around as I didn’t want the hassle. I think it was invitation, envelope, hotel directions etc and rsvp with envelope.

    I can’t really get onto her at minute as we haven’t decided if we’ll go ahead or not. If it’s just 6 people I won’t bother with invitations but if it’s 25 I might. Bit of a pain getting 25 done now and then have to get more for when we have proper party for friends.

    Although if it’s 25 end of June - which I doubt, it’ll only be family so prob won’t bother with invitations for them either, or would that look very bad?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,439 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    Ah you not a cheapskate! :) We couldn't justify spending a lot of money on the invites. I love the idea of buying really beautiful ones but not the reality. We decided to get savethedate.ie to do ours. The designer, Andreea is lovely to deal with. It's costing about €70 ish I think for 50. We aren't getting a whole suite though, just the invite.

    We're just going for the invite as well. Got beautiful ones done up by Roco and Miley with an illustration of our venue for about €3 each. I was set on getting the illustration from the beginning so was willing to pay a bit more for that but couldn't justify a full suite.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Have any of you had or are having second thoughts about your wedding dress? :o
    I've heard it can be a thing but my second thoughts are quite persistent. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,195 ✭✭✭✭Michellenman


    Lol, yep! Partly because it’s nothing like I thought I wanted and partly I think because I haven’t seen it in so long. I couldn’t collect it due to level 5 restrictions so I saw it last time in July. I deleted all pics and videos of me wearing it too so I wouldn’t be obsessing. And it looks totally different on the model online! I’m pretty hopeful that collecting it trying it on again will remind me how much I love it though, just have to be patient.

    What are you concerned about?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Lol, yep! Partly because it’s nothing like I thought I wanted and partly I think because I haven’t seen it in so long. I couldn’t collect it due to level 5 restrictions so I saw it last time in July. I deleted all pics and videos of me wearing it too so I wouldn’t be obsessing. And it looks totally different on the model online! I’m pretty hopeful that collecting it trying it on again will remind me how much I love it though, just have to be patient.

    What are you concerned about?

    It's a terrible affliction! Do you remember how you felt when you tried it on? That's something I've been trying to focus on but I'm not being successful.
    There is definitely something with the time frame isn't there. It's something that we have to wait months to wear and in to that time goes allsorts of thoughts. Throw Covid on top of that and shure. You were right to delete pics. I have yet to do that.

    There was a dress I tried on that I absolutely fell in love with but it was almost 4k and I just couldn't justify such a spend. So I went back to the drawing board. Found my dress and loved it but not quite as much as that other one. Like you Michelle it isn't what I was originally looking for. It has a train and I don't like bustles. It also has straps so I will feel a bit bare. I know my seamstress could do some things to it but sleeves would make it look very fussy. A thicker strap would also mean a big change to the whole back of the dress.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 501 ✭✭✭cazzer22


    No mention of weddings in any of the leaks so far. Announcement tomorrow. How is everyone feeling?


  • Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,947 Mod ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    cazzer22 wrote: »
    No mention of weddings in any of the leaks so far. Announcement tomorrow. How is everyone feeling?

    I think it would actually work in my favour right now if they restricted it to just the couple, celebrant and 2 witnesses.

    As it stands now, I've relatives who are hell-bent on coming from the UK as intended, so if numbers are limited, the pressure will be on me to sacrifice spots of our own siblings for my aunts and uncles 'who've came all this way' at the ceremony. If I don't, I'll never hear the end of it. We've both got siblings stuck abroad who would need at least one bout of self-paid quarantine to attend and it's a big ask when they've got families of their own, mortgages and travel costs already. We have two more siblings (and families) that likely would not be able to come because they've a vulnerable child who won't have had a vaccine by then. If I postpone I get it in the ear from aforementioned relatives about how they had a wasted journey and no guarantee that 2022 will be in any way different to 2021. I didn't want much for our wedding day, just our families around us to celebrate with us. So there's no option here that gives me that. But I tell myself that there's others who have it far worse. I'm very Meh right now.


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