Cork developments

There will be plenty of objections. There always is.

marno21 wrote: »

Ah here this isn't the Dublin thread.

I doubt it would be viable at any lesser height

In fairness, Cork can't even put an evening bus lane on the main street without hysterical head bangers threatening to set themselves on fire.

cgcsb wrote:

In fairness, Cork can't even put an evening bus lane on the main street without hysterical head bangers threatening to set themselves on fire.

I wish they would would.

Apogee wrote: »

That's pretty much exactly the view out my living room window.

I think I'm getting the thin edge of the wedge. (boom boom)

who_me wrote: »

Actually though, to me the scale of that image looks slightly off. If anything, it makes the building seem larger (wider base) than it actually is. Typically the renders (un?)intentionally do the opposite. That site really is tiny. Unless they either get rid of the path on two sides, or have a narrow ground floor with larger upper floors?

If you zoom in I think that is the case. Narrow first few floors with the remaining floors being wider.

The demolition work on the old FAS office is pretty much done apart from the big job of carting away all the rubble. Only the part on Cove St was left during the week & had a look today to find this.

who_me wrote: »

Actually though, to me the scale of that image looks slightly off. If anything, it makes the building seem larger (wider base) than it actually is. Typically the renders (un?)intentionally do the opposite. That site really is tiny. Unless they either get rid of the path on two sides, or have a narrow ground floor with larger upper floors?

The examiner article specifically mentions a cantilevered design and if you look closely at the conceptual image you’ll see 3 floors (or large ground and 1st floor), offset from the floors further up.

Presumably that’s the plan to include the footpath in the footprint of upper floors

Alt view of Penrose development.



https://m.independent.ie/business/commercial-property/jcd-unveils-a-125m-office-plan-for-cork-city-docklands-36939097.html

kub wrote: »

I have to wonder, where are all these companies going to come from and the next obvious question is, where are all the employees going to live?

Its a good question, but the way I look at is is that JCD and his likes wouldn't be going for planning on multi million Euro developments unless they had every stress test/ survey/ report under the sun done, in fact I wouldn't be surprised if he already had companies lined up to go in. His success at One Albert Quay makes his buildings an attractable option for business looking for new high tech options. Iv done work in 1AQ, its incredible.

marno21 wrote: »

The lack of apartments is going to be challenging so hopefully post 2019 some focus begins on developing residential projects

It's becoming an issue. Thousands of office spaces for workers coming on stream and little or no residential developments going on in the city or nearby. Setting ourselves up for traffic chaos as people are forced to commute in.

It’s great to see jobs moving back into the city, it’s better for long term sustainability to have people work and live near the city, with these developments close to both the bus and train stations.

Agree re the apartments, clearly some are badly needed.

I don’t think there’ll be a shortage of takers for office space but older generation space will be vacated, and there might be some decay in the core of the old traditional business district in the short term, along with empty units in the suburban business parks

A park and ride on the Little Island/Glounthaune side of the tunnel would be ideal, IMO.

snotboogie wrote: »

There is construction ongoing in the Airport Business Park, the build across from Amazon looks nearly done. There are also big plans for an expansion on the grounds of the old terminal. I'd imagine the demand is there.

The road network most certainly is not.

GavRedKing wrote: »

A park and ride on the Little Island/Glounthaune side of the tunnel would be ideal, IMO.

Using the rail line please

CHealy wrote: »

We have a train line at these locations, not sure what more people want.

I think they want to get farther into the city, and some joined up thinking for people heading across the city (UCC/CUH) or out towards Mahon.

Something a bit more than walking from train station into town to get the bus to Mahon or sitting in a 205 for longer than it takes to walk to UCC.

CHealy wrote: »

Surely if they are going as far as Little Island for a P&R they would go the extra 5 mins to Mahon? Why would anyone park at Little Island, get a bus to town, and then go all the way back out to Mahon? Traffic isnt that bad at all.

As for the cross town journey to UCC/CUH, I believe there are regular buses to these locations from Kent Station, or they could cycle but I agree this isnt always possible. Cork isnt a big city and Kent station isnt that far out of town. I used the new entrance Wednesday after walking down from Patrick St along passed Jurys and onto Horgans Quay, took about 8 minutes.

Indeed.

Office space gets built within 5 minutes walk of both the bus and train station and people are talking about traffic. In the medium term we'll see medium-high density homes developed within a short bus/walk/train of this location at Tivoli and the south docklands. I'm rejoicing at the idea of large employers in the city centre instead of clogging up a bypass. This will create demand and sustainability for higher density living in Cork, close to the city centre.

I dream of working in town and ditching the car. Getting jobs done at lunch, every service from dentist to doctor to bank within a 10 minute walk of my desk, Christmas shopping during quiet times at my leisure during the month of December, sneaky pints because it's sunny/raining/Friday/whatever. Sure I might get wet a few times per year but it'd be worth it.

whisky_galore wrote: »

Offices, yet more offices and student accom.

Anything coming up for ordinary Joe Schmoes to actually live in? And not just luxury unaffordable apartments?

I swear if you built people gold thrones looking over the city they'd still find a way to complain.....................

I would love a train station in the Carrigtwohill IDA. I can see the train pass my office everyday but the station stops a half hour walk from the IDA. Sure a station here would alleviate some of the traffic problems on the main road?

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