Female student beaten up in Maynooth(NO SPECULATION)

Masala · 23-11-2016 1:50am

How can anyone do this to a girl... In a civilised society??

I despair sometimes at how cruel we can be to our fellow man....

Reading how soft life is these days in prison... There is just no punishments out there these days to discourage crime.

My thoughts and prayers are with her and her family... If only justice was also on their side!

Heisenberg1 · 23-11-2016 2:03am

VictorRomeo wrote: »

Am local in Moyglare Abbey. Gardai going door to door this evening. Spoke to a Garda this evening. Wanted to know of the household's whereabouts on Sunday night. Wanted to know if we had seen or heard anything untoward. We did not. Thing is, though Moyglare Abbey is a very quiet estate, it's a busy one with lots of comings and goings. However, it was very cold and very, very foggy on Sunday night making the place very still. I imagine most residents - like me - have the hatches battened down for the night with the heat on and watching the telly. It's also quite a narrow, but deep estate. I'm at least half a km to the entrance - where the attack happened.

Now, the severity of this attack is not necessarily coming across in the reporting. The Garda told us she's in a very, very bad way - critically, life-threateningly injured. His words. She has not regained consciousness since the attack. An attack like this may leave her with no recollection of what happened to her and by whom - so we were told.

Lastly, this is very, very unusual for this estate, let alone town. Student levels in this estate is low - mostly owner occupied and a few professional rentals. The estate is made up of large detached houses and an equal amount of semi D's. It's very child friendly with lots of green space and lots of kids to fill them. It's very settled and suburban - lots of moms with SUVs and minivans and lots of Dads with BMWs and Audis. We're all in shock and all very upset for this young woman.

Maynooth has of course the expected anti-social stuff in the chippers at chucking out time most weekends however, this level of violence is a new one on me and I'm here 20 years.

So, that's it. I just thought I'd share.

I'm curious to know why you felt the need to mention the brand of car people in your estate drive? Graham O Dwyer drived luxury car brands what relevance does it have to this ? It's extremely shocking what has happened to this girl and I hope the Gardai quickly catch the attacker.

JupiterKid · 23-11-2016 2:10am

I did my postgrad degree in NUI Maynooth and lectured there for a while later on (late 90s/early 2000s). I always felt safe there - believed Maynooth to be a pretty safe town. I'm shocked by this attack. I was thinking of buying a house in Maynooth in the near future.

I hope the assailant is caught and brought to justice.

Hococop · 23-11-2016 2:45am

Heisenberg1 wrote: »

I'm curious to know why you felt the need to mention the brand of car people in your estate drive? Graham O Dwyer drived luxury car brands what relevance does it have to this ? It's extremely shocking what has happened to this girl and I hope the Gardai quickly catch the attacker.

Have they much to go on?
I'm assuming CCTV footage is limited around the area and id imagine the bus driver would not recall the faces of who got off at certain stops.

Hopefully they find the person/persons responsible and she makes a speedy recovery

magentis · 23-11-2016 2:56am

Heisenberg1 wrote: »

I'm curious to know why you felt the need to mention the brand of car people in your estate drive? Graham O Dwyer drived luxury car brands what relevance does it have to this ? It's extremely shocking what has happened to this girl and I hope the Gardai quickly catch the attacker.

I know!

And there are no large detached houses in there either,those detached houses are less than 1800 square feet.

My gatehouse is bigger than that ffs! :pac:

Grayson · 23-11-2016 7:11am

Hococop wrote: »

Have they much to go on?
I'm assuming CCTV footage is limited around the area and id imagine the bus driver would not recall the faces of who got off at certain stops.

Hopefully they find the person/persons responsible and she makes a speedy recovery

It's over a kilometre to the village (a taxi driver told me that) and the nearest CCTV camera. The estate is on a country road. One side of it is fields.
The side entrance to the college is halfway to the village. I live next to it so they would have gotten off the bus outside where I live.

It's probably the last place I would have expected something to happen.

23-11-2016 9:26am

My Wednesday Meditation Session with students and others people (including a cop) is tonight so hopefully I can glean the "word on the street" directly from the police and students myself. Not that I can or would share much of what I learn here - privacy and all that - but it will be interesting to know what talk is out there. I imagine it will be on everyone's minds tonight.

JupiterKid wrote: »

I always felt safe there - believed Maynooth to be a pretty safe town.

And I think it still is. One attack is not going to change my feeling on that. "Random attacks" happen all the time in Ireland. One occurrence in the general statistics in Maynooth is not going to colour my entire view of this town.

As I said earlier some years ago we had a clearly sexually motivated attack on my partner in Maynooth. She was shaken at the time of course but it has also not coloured her overall feeling of Maynooth. She still feels as safe here as anywhere. If anything she was just frustrated at herself for not finishing the guy off and dragging him to the cops by the heel. She did leave her attacker in a pretty bad way she thinks.

So buy that house

come join us! It's a good town.

take everything wrote: »

What is wrong with people that whatever is inside them is expressed in smashing someone else's skull.

It is easy to forget - for all our civilisation and technology - that we are still essentially just animals. With - as Christopher Hitchens used to say - Frontal lobes that are too small and adrenal glands that are too big and bearing every mark of our lowly ancestry.

There is a lot to be proud of - and find hope in - in the achievements and nobility of human kind - but not without forgetting we are just another mammalian animal. And much of our species are keen to act in ways that remind us of this daily.

snowbabe · 23-11-2016 9:45am

The poor young girl,what a desperate ordeal to have to go through.I hope she has alot of support around her. I also think its a reminder to us all especiallythe younger teenagers boys and girls to exercise caution .We can all become very complacent,as many saying they were shocked in this quiet area and wouldnt expect it.I listen to my own girls saying 'ah I'm only going down the road' ,"im only going into town" but let this be a warning to us all to be a bit more aware of our surroundings .My heart goes out to this girl and her family ,she is only a child just starting out .

califano · 23-11-2016 10:13am

Have Gardai the right to check the hands(for damage) of people?. If so why dont they do this in large scale sweeps?

fizzypish · 23-11-2016 10:18am

califano wrote: »

Have Gardai the right to check the hands(for damage) of people?. If so why dont they do this in large scale sweeps?

Breaking news. 18 members of a local boxing club, 4 carpenters and one clumsy dude have been arrested in relation to a vicious attack.

23-11-2016 10:20am

^ I was thinking something similar. The combat training and other sporty stuff I engage in would leave me with "hand damage" sometimes. Some of which would be perfectly congruent with what you would expect from a violent assault on another human being. The Guards have yet to knock on my door in their door to door inquiries. Perhaps I will wear gloves when they call just in case.

Ann22 · 23-11-2016 10:24am

kittensmittens wrote:

Story is about a girl who is (by the account of an above poster who spoke with gardai on the estate earlier) in a very critical condition. Gender wars can be fought any day of the week in here

I have to say I completely agree. It seems few people on here can make a comment about this horrific incident without someone or other jumping in to nitpick about sexism and suchlike...
or why certain cars were mentioned. This is a common thing on Boards. People lose the reason for the thread on petty squabbles that lead to pages long arguments... Jesus Christ lads!.... people are upset and concerned. Especially those with family away from home and at college. Can folk not have a bit of a rant without being afraid to say the wrong thing?! Sickens my arse that kind of ****e. People are chatting not making a sworn, signed, hand on the bible legal statement that has to be read over a hundred times to make sure it's politically correct.

pookie82 · 23-11-2016 11:11am

I went to Uni in Maynooth for years and lived around Moyglare for most of my time there, so this story has hit me particularly hard. Tbh I've found it difficult to stop thinking about it, probably because I remember the area so well, and would have walked around the village under the cover of darkness in winter a thousand times. This girl has only just started there and should still have been enjoying the new found freedom and excitement of this new stage in her life, and then this happens

Seeing her picture in the press today made my stomach turn. She's a mere slip of a girl, and 5' 3, not a chance of defending herself against anyone larger than her or against numbers.

I would have thought the injuries she sustained would only have been capable of being inflicted by one or more men, or a woman with unusual strength, or a weapon. It takes considerable brute force to smash someone's teeth out and break multiple bones in their face. I agree that the seriousness of it would be compatible with attempted murder. If the attacker/s were female, surely there would have had to be a number of them, and even at that, would a woman be capable of landing those injuries with a few punches? I know my fist wouldn't be capable of it, I'd probably manage to bruise someone, but that's about it. The fact that no seems to have seen anything unusual would lead me to believe the assailant was operating alone and could make a quick getaway in the foggy conditions.

The theory that her attacker was on the bus too doesn't necessarily mean they're from her home town, I think although it was a college service it stopped a few times on the route, meaning he/she could have gotten on anywhere.

I can't help feeling that it was random, because who on earth could have this kind of intentional vendetta against a slight 18 yo in her first few weeks of college?

Lux23 · 23-11-2016 11:16am

The randomness of this awful attack is what makes it a story. But I am sure if you went into an A&E department now, you would find women in a similar state who were attacked by their partners, men who fought with their brothers/friends etc. But strangely we are more shocked by someone being attacked on a street corner than by someone they know in a safe environment such as their home.

There was another case recently in Swords where a woman was attacked and managed to get away, I wonder could there be a link?

dont bother · 23-11-2016 11:36am

i just have a feeling that it wasn't a man that done this, it was about three or four teenage girls possibly with weapons.

people are just completely unaware of the damage a punch can do - a previous poster said that "it had to have been a man to do that level of damage" or some-such, but it wouldnt have to be.

it doesnt take much to do damage, no matter what.

i just have a feeling that some celbridge knacks, or local knacks took the opportunity to prove their hardiness on this poor girl.

she's tiny looking too, so again, wouldnt take much to inflict damage unfortunately.

my guess is it was a "girl gang" type thing and i'd put money on it that it wasn't anything like this "larry murphy" type scenario of a creep on the bus.

sure she wasnt robbed, sexually assaulted or anything, so it was defo other girls proving their hardness amongst a gang (IMO)

brickmauser · 23-11-2016 11:40am

pookie82 wrote: »

I went to Uni in Maynooth for years and lived around Moyglare for most of my time there, so this story has hit me particularly hard. Tbh I've found it difficult to stop thinking about it, probably because I remember the area so well, and would have walked around the village under the cover of darkness in winter a thousand times. This girl has only just started there and should still have been enjoying the new found freedom and excitement of this new stage in her life, and then this happens

Seeing her picture in the press today made my stomach turn. She's a mere slip of a girl, and 5' 3, not a chance of defending herself against anyone larger than her or against numbers.

I would have thought the injuries she sustained would only have been capable of being inflicted by one or more men, or a woman with unusual strength, or a weapon. It takes considerable brute force to smash someone's teeth out and break multiple bones in their face. I agree that the seriousness of it would be compatible with attempted murder. If the attacker/s were female, surely there would have had to be a number of them, and even at that, would a woman be capable of landing those injuries with a few punches? I know my fist wouldn't be capable of it, I'd probably manage to bruise someone, but that's about it. The fact that no seems to have seen anything unusual would lead me to believe the assailant was operating alone and could make a quick getaway in the foggy conditions.

The theory that her attacker was on the bus too doesn't necessarily mean they're from her home town, I think although it was a college service it stopped a few times on the route, meaning he/she could have gotten on anywhere.

I can't help feeling that it was random, because who on earth could have this kind of intentional vendetta against a slight 18 yo in her first few weeks of college?

Who knows? It could have been a drunken or drugged up scumbag who lashed out at an easy target, it could have been a stalker who decided to smash her face, perhaps she was arguing with someone on the bus who attacked her when she was on her own or a group of people she fell out with were waiting to ambush her. It could be any number of reasons.

VictorRomeo · 23-11-2016 11:56am

Heisenberg1 wrote: »

I'm curious to know why you felt the need to mention the brand of car people in your estate drive? Graham O Dwyer drived luxury car brands what relevance does it have to this ? It's extremely shocking what has happened to this girl and I hope the Gardai quickly catch the attacker.

Context. Paints a picture. Narrative. You know... The way it helps us mere humans visualize a scene when processing information. These sorts of attacks can occur anywhere. Not even the most cosseted of communities is safe from these sorts of incidents. Clearly. For what it's worth I neither live in a detached house or drive a luxury vehicle.

VictorRomeo · 23-11-2016 11:59am

magentis wrote: »

I know!

And there are no large detached houses in there either,those detached houses are less than 1800 square feet.

My gatehouse is bigger than that ffs! :pac:

So I suppose the 3000+ sq ft house the attack happened outside doesn't count?

Ann22 · 23-11-2016 12:28pm

dont bother wrote:

i just have a feeling that it wasn't a man that done this, it was about three or four teenage girls possibly with weapons.

That's the feeling I got. I feel unless it was a mentally ill man or a junkie out of his mind for a fix, for a man to do this it'd likely be part of a partner or ex partner beating or stranger sexually assault. I would've thought unusual for a man or men to beat up a random woman. Women can be capable of vicious attacks on other girls especially facial beatings.. but sure we're only guessing. Just hope she recovers quickly and can identify them.

jmayo · 23-11-2016 12:48pm

sbsquarepants wrote: »

This is actually a fallacy - people are generally being attacked less now than in times gone by, you just hear about it more than you did because of social media etc.
That being said it was a very nasty assault and I hope whoever done it gets what they deserve..

Actually I call bullshyte to that.

Growing up in 1980s and in college into the 90s, there was never the same level of attacks and murders in the country.

Yeah maybe a few guys had a pop at each other at the end of the night, but it wasn't carried over to the hospital A&E or there weren't knives and bottles involved.

In most years of the 80s there was never a murder a week.

Looking at recent CSO stats number of violent crimes involving death has dropped over last few years from peak around 2004/2005/2006, but if you compared current times to 80s or 90s the numbers today would still be high.

Also for anyone that lives in rural areas crime, particularly theft and violent assault, has drastically increased over the last couple of decades.

Maybe I should stop watching Criminal Minds, but this particular attack looks like it was personal and carried out by someone with a lot of rage towards the victim.

smelly sock · 23-11-2016 1:02pm

jmayo wrote: »

Actually I call bullshyte to that.

Growing up in 1980s and in college into the 90s, there was never the same level of attacks and murders in the country.

Yeah maybe a few guys had a pop at each other at the end of the night, but it wasn't carried over to the hospital A&E or there weren't knives and bottles involved.

In most years of the 80s there was never a murder a week.

Looking at recent CSO stats number of violent crimes involving death has dropped over last few years from peak around 2004/2005/2006, but if you compared current times to 80s or 90s the numbers today would still be high.

Also for anyone that lives in rural areas crime, particularly theft and violent assault, has drastically increased over the last couple of decades.

Maybe I should stop watching Criminal Minds, but this particular attack looks like it was personal and carried out by someone with a lot of rage towards the victim.

I'd tend to agree.

With less garda numbers and resources being so poor the government have reclassified a lot of crimes and incidents to deflect the issues that are actually out there.

I never remember the country being so violent.

smelly sock · 23-11-2016 1:03pm

Just to say this attack could have happened anywhere.

jmayo · 23-11-2016 1:21pm

smelly sock wrote: »

I'd tend to agree.

With less garda numbers and resources being so poor the government have reclassified a lot of crimes and incidents to deflect the issues that are actually out there.

I never remember the country being so violent.

Actually saw Maynooth guy on news last night saying that the local Garda station is shut.
On Garda website it's opening hours are
Mon-Fri 1000-1300, 1900-2100
Sat 1000-1300
Sun 1200-1400

This is town with population of 15,000 odd and student population of over 8,000.
That is a joke.

There should always be a Garda presence in a town of that size and particularly where there is sizable student population.

Call me Al · 23-11-2016 3:10pm

Hococop wrote: »

Have they much to go on?
I'm assuming CCTV footage is limited around the area and id imagine the bus driver would not recall the faces of who got off at certain stops.

Hopefully they find the person/persons responsible and she makes a speedy recovery

There might be cctv at all of the stops that the bus went to before arriving in maynooth. They might not know who got off in maynooth alongside her but this is another way to figure out who else was on the bus. A process of elimination from there could whittle it down fairly easily.

smelly sock · 23-11-2016 3:13pm

Call me Al wrote: »

There might be cctv at all of the stops that the bus went to before arriving in maynooth. They might not know who got off in maynooth alongside her but this is another way to figure out who else was on the bus. A process of elimination from there could whittle it down fairly easily.

I believe the bus stops outside the college entrance on the Moyglare road. Wouldn't any CCTV up along that road apart from at houses and with the heavy fog it might not be to helpful.

Someone in Maynooth saw something without a doubt though. They just need to have a long hard think and report it. Not matter how irrelevant.

I know Moyglare and surrounding estates. At that time they would be teaming with activity. People out walking, Students returning to digs etc.

Little CuChulainn · 23-11-2016 3:22pm

smelly sock wrote: »

I believe the bus stops outside the college entrance on the Moyglare road. Wouldn't any CCTV up along that road apart from at houses and with the heavy fog it might not be to helpful.

Someone in Maynooth saw something without a doubt though. They just need to have a long hard think and report it. Not matter how irrelevant.

I know Moyglare and surrounding estates. At that time they would be teaming with activity. People out walking, Students returning to digs etc.

Hard to imagine you could give someone a beating like that without much noise being made.

smelly sock · 23-11-2016 3:29pm

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Hard to imagine you could give someone a beating like that without much noise being made.

Some reports are suggesting that neighbours were alerted by screaming.

TeaBagMania · 23-11-2016 3:39pm

If this was my hood id dress up as a girl and walk the streets at night.... with a billy club :devil:

hatrickpatrick · 23-11-2016 4:16pm

mattser wrote: »

Exactly. Things seriously derailed on here. Best of luck to the girl and her family, indeed.

Graham wrote: »

It's only inflammatory to an overly sensitive subsection of the population.

Best of luck to the young woman, speedy recovery.

Ironically enough my post on that was an afterthought to my post about the actual incident and the reason things like this happen so frequently in Ireland (lack of criminal penalties even when someone gets convicted), and yet everyone is focusing on this. :rolleyes:

My main point still stands. The scumbags responsible will be caught, catching criminals has never been a problem in Ireland. The Gardai are actually exceptionally good at it. It's when the matter is handed over to judges to call a sentence that the whole system goes out the f*cking window.

These guys will get a slap on the wrist in court, mark my words. If I'm wrong, I will be more than happy to be wrong - I hope they get taken off the streets for many, many years. But I can unfortunately almost guarantee that this will not happen.

kittensmittens · 23-11-2016 4:17pm

Has there been any further update today on the girls condition?

hatrickpatrick · 23-11-2016 4:19pm

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Doesn't have to be the dead of night, it's dark at 4.30pm now.

It doesn't even have to be dark. Scumbags in Ireland are immune to broad daylight, unfortunately.

smelly sock · 23-11-2016 4:28pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Ironically enough my post on that was an afterthought to my post about the actual incident and the reason things like this happen so frequently in Ireland (lack of criminal penalties even when someone gets convicted), and yet everyone is focusing on this. :rolleyes:

My main point still stands. The scumbags responsible will be caught, catching criminals has never been a problem in Ireland. The Gardai are actually exceptionally good at it. It's when the matter is handed over to judges to call a sentence that the whole system goes out the f*cking window.

These guys will get a slap on the wrist in court, mark my words. If I'm wrong, I will be more than happy to be wrong - I hope they get taken off the streets for many, many years. But I can unfortunately almost guarantee that this will not happen.

In a nutshell.

We will hear all of the usual get out of jail free cards. They were from a bad family, have a drug dependency. They have cleaned themselves up and want to be around for their unborn child.

What we won't hear are the 200 previous convictions.

I am sick of people getting off because they had a hard childhood etc.

This filth should never see daylight again.

2smiggy · 23-11-2016 5:19pm

smelly sock wrote: »

In a nutshell.

We will hear all of the usual get out of jail free cards. They were from a bad family, have a drug dependency. They have cleaned themselves up and want to be around for their unborn child.

What we won't hear are the 200 previous convictions.

I am sick of people getting off because they had a hard childhood etc.

This filth should never see daylight again.

previous convictions should be allowed noted in court cases, and applied to any thinking on sentences handed out

BattleCorp · 23-11-2016 5:20pm

2smiggy wrote: »

previous convictions should be allowed noted in court cases, and applied to any thinking on sentences handed out

I don't think they should be allowed in court before a verdict is delivered. It can skew how a judge or jury views someone. It's only human nature to be swayed that way.

Once the verdict is given, then previous convictions should be taken into account when sentencing.

pilly · 23-11-2016 5:24pm

BattleCorp wrote: »

I don't think they should be allowed in court before a verdict is delivered. It can skew how a judge or jury views someone. It's only human nature to be swayed that way.

Once the verdict is given, then previous convictions should be taken into account when sentencing.

I actually thought they were, or am I naïve? I've often heard "taking into account previous record"?

IITYWYBMAD · 23-11-2016 5:27pm

pilly wrote: »

I actually thought they were, or am I naïve? I've often heard "taking into account previous record"?

Not when giving instructions to the jury, only at the point of sentencing.

pilly · 23-11-2016 5:31pm

IITYWYBMAD wrote: »

Not when giving instructions to the jury, only at the point of sentencing.

I suppose that kind of makes sense in a way that it won't prejudice a jury but at the same time if someone has a spate of convictions for violence surely it's relevant. Hard one really. Either way the judges know well someone's record and it's down to them to pass down the harsh sentences.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 23-11-2016 5:43pm

Ah the poor wee thing, she's only tiny. Shocking attack, she's got a long hard recovery in front of her, not least mentally. Her poor parents.

My instinct reading it was that it was a woman or women, interesting to see that other people have the same reaction. Fcuking coward whoever it was, from looking at the girl a ten year old would give her a run for her money.

suicide_circus · 23-11-2016 5:52pm

I blame heavy metal music.

KingBrian2 · 23-11-2016 5:57pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Ironically enough my post on that was an afterthought to my post about the actual incident and the reason things like this happen so frequently in Ireland (lack of criminal penalties even when someone gets convicted), and yet everyone is focusing on this. :rolleyes:

My main point still stands. The scumbags responsible will be caught, catching criminals has never been a problem in Ireland. The Gardai are actually exceptionally good at it. It's when the matter is handed over to judges to call a sentence that the whole system goes out the f*cking window.

These guys will get a slap on the wrist in court, mark my words. If I'm wrong, I will be more than happy to be wrong - I hope they get taken off the streets for many, many years. But I can unfortunately almost guarantee that this will not happen.

Culture is also a factor. Heavy drink and a cocktail of drugs. Bound to get the spirits high.

Widdershins · 23-11-2016 6:04pm

smelly sock wrote: »

In a nutshell.

We will hear all of the usual get out of jail free cards. They were from a bad family, have a drug dependency. They have cleaned themselves up and want to be around for their unborn child.

What we won't hear are the 200 previous convictions.

I am sick of people getting off because they had a hard childhood etc.

This filth should never see daylight again.

Unborn child?

Widdershins · 23-11-2016 6:07pm

suicide_circus wrote: »

I blame heavy metal music.

Ha..if the culprit listened to more of it he might have got some of his aggression out instead of taking it out on the poor woman.

Grayson · 23-11-2016 6:17pm

jmayo wrote: »

Actually I call bullshyte to that.

Growing up in 1980s and in college into the 90s, there was never the same level of attacks and murders in the country.

Yeah maybe a few guys had a pop at each other at the end of the night, but it wasn't carried over to the hospital A&E or there weren't knives and bottles involved.

In most years of the 80s there was never a murder a week.

Looking at recent CSO stats number of violent crimes involving death has dropped over last few years from peak around 2004/2005/2006, but if you compared current times to 80s or 90s the numbers today would still be high.

Also for anyone that lives in rural areas crime, particularly theft and violent assault, has drastically increased over the last couple of decades.

Maybe I should stop watching Criminal Minds, but this particular attack looks like it was personal and carried out by someone with a lot of rage towards the victim.

Crime is less than the 80's. The main reason is that crime is based on poverty levels and opportunity. The poorer the population the more crime. Now even when the poverty levels drop there's still crimes. Some are based on opportunity and some are based on more personal reasons. Things like random attacks are normally based on a mixture. They are based on personal, not economic reasons and based on opportunity because they rarely happen next to a garda station or somewhere with people walking around.

Thankfully those sort of attacks are rare. They never account for a large part of the statistics.

It's important to remember that we're in one of the safest countries in the world and although there's never going to be somewhere that has zero crime we are still lucky to be here.

Grayson · 23-11-2016 6:17pm

jmayo wrote: »

Actually saw Maynooth guy on news last night saying that the local Garda station is shut.
On Garda website it's opening hours are
Mon-Fri 1000-1300, 1900-2100
Sat 1000-1300
Sun 1200-1400

This is town with population of 15,000 odd and student population of over 8,000.
That is a joke.

There should always be a Garda presence in a town of that size and particularly where there is sizable student population.

I had to go there last year to get something signed. It took 4 attempts before I arrived when someone was there.

smelly sock wrote: »

Some reports are suggesting that neighbours were alerted by screaming.

Maynooth always has screaming. There's always some drunk student wandering around. I live near the college entrance and it's all I hear from about 9pm - 11pm on a Wednesday or Thursday night.

Dolbert · 23-11-2016 7:58pm

Grayson wrote: »

Maynooth always has screaming. There's always some drunk student wandering around. I live near the college entrance and it's all I hear from about 9pm - 11pm on a Wednesday or Thursday night.

Moyglare is very quiet.

smelly sock · 23-11-2016 8:10pm

Widdershins wrote: »

Unborn child?

Yeh it'll form part of the excuse for not imposing a custodial sentence. He'll have knocked up some poor young one.

ShaShaBear · 23-11-2016 10:48pm

She's local to me, myself and a few others used to hang around with her older sister. Very quiet girl, played football locally until about 2 years ago. She's in a very bad way and we've been told she will be lucky to recover mentally and probably never physically. Nothing was taken and she wasn't harmed sexually. The bus made several stops, one of which was in Monaghan town - before she was picked up in Blayney (and I think three stops after that). While it being someone on the bus is altogether likely, it certainly doesn't mean it was someone who regularly gets it (I used to get a private bus to college the odd time and I got it a few times to the same town after I finished college too) and it certainly doesn't mean she knew who did it.

At this stage, we're all just hoping she wakes up with some sort of quality of life

Ken. · 23-11-2016 10:51pm

Mod- For the love of Christ quit it with the frankly stupid and upsetting speculation. The young ladies family might be reading this and the last thing they need at a time like this is to read the utter crap that has been posted today. It ends here.

Fleawuss · 23-11-2016 10:57pm

ShaShaBear wrote: »

She's local to me, myself and a few others used to hang around with her older sister. Very quiet girl, played football locally until about 2 years ago. She's in a very bad way and we've been told she will be lucky to recover mentally and probably never physically. Nothing was taken and she wasn't harmed sexually. The bus made several stops, one of which was in Monaghan town - before she was picked up in Blayney (and I think three stops after that). While it being someone on the bus is altogether likely, it certainly doesn't mean it was someone who regularly gets it (I used to get a private bus to college the odd time and I got it a few times to the same town after I finished college too) and it certainly doesn't mean she knew who did it.

At this stage, we're all just hoping she wakes up with some sort of quality of life

Join you in that hope. It is beyond outrageous that a young life can be mangled in such a way. If the perpetrator(s) have been released/excused previous acts resignations from those who did so should be demanded. I hope things improve for her.

smelly sock · 23-11-2016 10:57pm

ken wrote: »

Mod- For the love of Christ quit it with the frankly stupid and upsetting speculation. The young ladies family might be reading this and the last thing they need at a time like this is to read the utter crap that has been posted today. It ends here.

Totally agree. We have to many wannabe detectives who watch to much csi etc.

All that matters is that the kid is ok and the scum who did this is dealt with.

Female student beaten up in Maynooth(NO SPECULATION)

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