Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 3 MOD NOTE POST 1*

savannahkat · 06-06-2018 3:22pm

Galway could not get out of division 1B. They beat Offaly but who didn't beat Offaly. They beat Kilkenny & Davey's Boys both of whom were playing their 3d game in as many weeks when fatigue had most certainly set in for both. Some yardstick for elevating them to the status of Gods of Hurling.I think such a foundation for so elevated a status is fair weak will not survive the coming storms.

brookville · 06-06-2018 4:27pm

Nedflanders02 wrote: »

Just wondering does anyone have the U-21 team that played Waterford on Monday?

i was told the team but forget some of it but from what ill make a stab at it
dunphy in goal
michael carey,michael cody,cathal mcgrath
boro lad wing back name escapes me and tommy walsh and shane murphy in hb line.
brian cody and ryan bergin mf
robbie murphy,conor hennessy
sean carey
dunno the 3 lads missing think one of the lads is from conahy he got a goal think he played with ucd this year

justbored · 06-06-2018 5:25pm

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brookville · 06-06-2018 5:44pm

i think there was a few changes to that team above.Dont think darren mullen played.Great to see tommy walsh back.
Wheres tadgh o dwyer is he injured?its dissapointing andy gaffney hasnt kicked on after being a promising minor.Will adrian mullen make the cut after the leaving cert?
leahy,donnelly,sheehan and mossy will probably link up with the u21s after this weekend it'll be a tough match against galway.

Powerhouse · 06-06-2018 6:01pm

savannahkat wrote: »

Galway could not get out of division 1B. They beat Offaly but who didn't beat Offaly. They beat Kilkenny & Davey's Boys both of whom were playing their 3d game in as many weeks when fatigue had most certainly set in for both. Some yardstick for elevating them to the status of Gods of Hurling.I think such a foundation for so elevated a status is fair weak will not survive the coming storms.

It's nice to read something actually approaching discussion for a change and not just received wisdom cliché. There is a tendency some people to predict that any team that gets on top at all will dominate for years. Only time will tell.

In Galway's favour, Kilkenny are not great (as far as I can assess though some here seem to think they can beat anyone), Tipperary are in decline and probably will exit, Cork have no defence though they have a speedy enough game a bit different to the type of physical game Galway like. It is set up for Galway to have a few good years if they are the team some people claim. They are a mature team but young enough to be around for a few years if they win it this year. But they have been elevated fairly early alright. Leinster Final v Kilkenny (as I expect) will be the most fascinating game for some time. How will a fresher Kilkenny team which has not played three weeks in a row do having learned some lessons for their first game?

Xenophile · 06-06-2018 8:34pm

Village87 wrote: »

Why dont the bottom team in Munster play the bottom team in Leinster in a Relegation Play off ?

Sounds like a good idea, play it in a difference Province each year with the Finances going to the relevant Provincial Council.

minty81 · 06-06-2018 9:49pm

Xenophile wrote: »

Village87 wrote: »

Why dont the bottom team in Munster play the bottom team in Leinster in a Relegation Play off ?

Sounds like a good idea, play it in a difference Province each year with the Finances going to the relevant Provincial Council.

So what happens if the Munster team loses but the joe mcdonagh winners are from Leinster?
Only fair way is to scrap the provinces and make it open draw but delegates will never vote for it

dubcat51 · 07-06-2018 8:25am

Can you scan your season ticket on saturday or do you need to print them off does anyone know.

dzer2 · 07-06-2018 12:03pm

dubcat51 wrote: »

Can you scan your season ticket on saturday or do you need to print them off does anyone know.

Yes will be on the gate

Floodsurvive · 07-06-2018 12:41pm

dubcat51 wrote: »

Can you scan your season ticket on saturday or do you need to print them off does anyone know.[/QUOTE

09/06/2018 - Leinster S.H.C. Kilkenny v Wexford, 7.00pm, Nowlan Park.

Unreserved Seating in Ardan De Gras. Season Ticket Holders simply required to present their Season Ticket card for scanning at the designated Ardan De Gras turnstiles on Hebron Road

Xenophile · 07-06-2018 12:50pm

minty81 wrote: »

Only fair way is to scrap the provinces and make it open draw but delegates will never vote for it

The Munster Hurling Final is the most important event in the GAA calendar after the All Ireland Hurling final attracting Hurling Fans from all over the country many of whom have no chance of getting tickets for the All Ireland Final.

dubcat51 · 07-06-2018 1:20pm

Floodsurvive wrote: »

dubcat51 wrote: »

Can you scan your season ticket on saturday or do you need to print them off does anyone know.[/QUOTE

09/06/2018 - Leinster S.H.C. Kilkenny v Wexford, 7.00pm, Nowlan Park.

Unreserved Seating in Ardan De Gras. Season Ticket Holders simply required to present their Season Ticket card for scanning at the designated Ardan De Gras turnstiles on Hebron Road

thanks

Powerhouse · 07-06-2018 6:24pm

minty81 wrote: »

So what happens if the Munster team loses but the joe mcdonagh winners are from Leinster?
Only fair way is to scrap the provinces and make it open draw but delegates will never vote for it

Scrapping the provinces because there's a bit of a problem with promotion/relegation would be fairly over the top. The championship will probably end up with two groups anyway and the provinces automatically provide this.

minty81 · 07-06-2018 8:33pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

minty81 wrote: »

So what happens if the Munster team loses but the joe mcdonagh winners are from Leinster?
Only fair way is to scrap the provinces and make it open draw but delegates will never vote for it

Scrapping the provinces because there's a bit of a problem with promotion/relegation would be fairly over the top. The championship will probably end up with two groups anyway and the provinces automatically provide this.

Except the bit of the problem is a big discrepancy. A championship shouldn't be played where theres different rules for one than the other.
The conditions for Kerry to be promoted are very different to the other teams they're competing against for no other reasons than geographical.
Every team should be playing to the same rules, only way this can happen is to do it open draw

Powerhouse · 07-06-2018 11:25pm

minty81 wrote: »

Except the bit of the problem is a big discrepancy. A championship shouldn't be played where theres different rules for one than the other.
The conditions for Kerry to be promoted are very different to the other teams they're competing against for no other reasons than geographical.
Every team should be playing to the same rules, only way this can happen is to do it open draw

Since when is it necessary that "every team should be playing to the same rules"? Different rules have existed in different provinces for decades. Even in recent years the Leinster hurling finalists have gotten a bye into the provincial semi-finals - Tipperary were Munster champions in 2015/16 and had to play in the quarter-final in the following year and play an extra game. Why was nobody concerned about different rules then?

Anyway leaving short and selective memories aside, if every team should be playing to the same rules then why not just take the simplest option and change the rules? Why the need for a big drama which changes the entire format of the championship just because of one county?

minty81 · 07-06-2018 11:37pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

minty81 wrote: »

Except the bit of the problem is a big discrepancy. A championship shouldn't be played where theres different rules for one than the other.
The conditions for Kerry to be promoted are very different to the other teams they're competing against for no other reasons than geographical.
Every team should be playing to the same rules, only way this can happen is to do it open draw

Since when is it necessary that "every team should be playing to the same rules"? Different rules have existed in different provinces for decades. Even in recent years the Leinster hurling finalists have gotten a bye into the provincial semi-finals - Tipperary were Munster champions in 2015/16 and had to play in the quarter-final in the following year and play an extra game. Why was nobody concerned about different rules then?

Anyway leaving short and selective memories aside, if every team should be playing to the same rules then why not just take the simplest option and change the rules? Why the need for a big drama which changes the entire format of the championship just because of one county?

Isn't that the point?? Different rules have existed in the provincial championships and I find it impossible to think of a scenario where a fair championship with same rules can be applied under the provincial system. So therefore if we want a fully fair system for all counties then only system that could work is an open draw.
What is your simplest option to change the rules?
By the way on your point about Leinster champions getting a bye into semi final, Cody has previously said he disagrees with it and believes the Leinster champions should be in the draw at same time as rest of the counties.

Powerhouse · 07-06-2018 11:42pm

minty81 wrote: »

What is your simplest option to change the rules?

The simplest option to change the rules would be for Leinster to do what they should have done at the time and insist that the same play-off rule applied to Leinster as to Munster. Whether someone agrees with the play-off or not is another matter but it's far easier to tweak the rules than to try to being about a monumental and likely to be resisted shift by obliterating the provincial championships. Put a motion to congress or whatever.

greenspurs · 08-06-2018 9:38am

Freddie Flintoff and Jamie Redknapp will be on the pitch at Half time with Dj Carey shooting a segment for their show "League of their Own" .....

greenspurs · 08-06-2018 9:39am

Xenophile wrote: »

The Munster Hurling Final is the most important event in the GAA calendar after the All Ireland Hurling final attracting Hurling Fans from all over the country many of whom have no chance of getting tickets for the All Ireland Final.

See ......

"Shur Munster is sacred ........ " yeh right ......

Powerhouse · 08-06-2018 5:04pm

A Leinster semi final tomorrow night and no comment here since 20 to 10 this morning? You wouldn’t get that in Munster you can be sure!

Charlie69 · 08-06-2018 6:11pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

A Leinster semi final tomorrow night and no comment here since 20 to 10 this morning? You wouldn’t get that in Munster you can be sure!

Get out into the sunshine Powerhouse... it might make you a happier person.:D

Realt Dearg Sec · 08-06-2018 6:45pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

You wouldn’t get that in Munster you can be sure!

If you can get a Munster man to be quiet for five minutes you're doing very well.

citykat · 08-06-2018 7:54pm

Powerhouse wrote: »

A Leinster semi final tomorrow night and no comment here since 20 to 10 this morning? You wouldn’t get that in Munster you can be sure!

We like to do our talking on the pitch...

tbiggertycome · 08-06-2018 9:30pm

Kil v Wex
E Murphy
E Morrissey P Walsh P Deegan
C Delaney C Buckley P Murphy
C Fogarty J Maher
M Keoghan TJ Reid L Blanchfield
J Donnelly W Walsh L Scanlon
Subs
D Brennan
J Holden
C O'Shea
J Cleere
C Browne
G Aylward
C Fennelly
P Lyng
R Leahy
R Hogan
B Sheehan

JJs Left Hand · 08-06-2018 9:37pm

I'd be surprised if that team starts

blackcard · 08-06-2018 9:48pm

JJs Left Hand wrote: »

I'd be surprised if that team starts

What changes do you expect?

JJs Left Hand · 08-06-2018 9:50pm

Richie from the start. Maybe Colin.

brookville · 08-06-2018 10:02pm

JJs Left Hand wrote: »

Richie from the start. Maybe Colin.

Id also be suprised if that team starts but you wouldnt know.I would of thought maybe leahy and colin would of started but with the same team announced as the last day he either wants a big performance from the same group or is just playing mind games.Either way the bench looks strong but we seen the last day colin made no impression.
its good to see cleere and aylward making the squad hopefully kevin kelly will be back soon.

dubcat51 · 08-06-2018 10:08pm

Cant see that team starting as the bench looks stronger IMO

JJs Left Hand · 08-06-2018 11:15pm

Kilkenny teams started well in the Féile

Boro 2 from 2. They're a serious outfit and should go close.
Emeralds with a win and a draw.
Graignamanagh 2 from 2.

kk.man · 09-06-2018 9:40am

dubcat51 wrote: »

Cant see that team starting as the bench looks stronger IMO

I think last year v wexford our bench was not strong. Hence Cody isn't going to have the same problem this year.
I was surprised Blanchfield regained his place. I think this maybe the 4th time only Cody has named the same team to start consecutive championship matches. Its certainly in the single figures.

brookville · 09-06-2018 1:30pm

i was reading somewhere that we've only scored ten points from play in our first 3 championship matches which is a very poor return.Whatever six fowards take to the field this evening we need the fowards to make an impression and trouble the scoreboard.We know how wexford will set up we've had a week off and we're at home we cant have any excuses tonight.Best of luck to players and management tonight should be a good atmosphere.

dastardly00 · 09-06-2018 2:29pm

brookville wrote: »

i was reading somewhere that we've only scored ten points from play in our first 3 championship matches which is a very poor return.Whatever six fowards take to the field this evening we need the fowards to make an impression and trouble the scoreboard.We know how wexford will set up we've had a week off and we're at home we cant have any excuses tonight.Best of luck to players and management tonight should be a good atmosphere.

Not sure about that stat...

From play:
vs Galway: 1-2
vs Offaly: 2-14
vs Dublin: 1-10

brookville · 09-06-2018 2:45pm

dastardly00 wrote: »

brookville wrote: »

i was reading somewhere that we've only scored ten points from play in our first 3 championship matches which is a very poor return.Whatever six fowards take to the field this evening we need the fowards to make an impression and trouble the scoreboard.We know how wexford will set up we've had a week off and we're at home we cant have any excuses tonight.Best of luck to players and management tonight should be a good atmosphere.

Not sure about that stat...

From play:
vs Galway: 1-2
vs Offaly: 2-14
vs Dublin: 1-10

maybe it was apart from tj we've only scored something like ten points from play.sorry for getting my wires crossed but needless to say we need a big game from our attckers tonight.

dastardly00 · 09-06-2018 3:13pm

brookville wrote: »

maybe it was apart from tj we've only scored something like ten points from play.sorry for getting my wires crossed but needless to say we need a big game from our attckers tonight.

It might be related to scores in the first half or something. Anyway, as you said, we need a big game from our attackers tonight. We do need to score more from play.

tbiggertycome · 09-06-2018 5:39pm

Boro through to the File semi final tomorrow at 1pm

They had their tightest game yet against Clarinbridge winning out 1-7 to 1-4

Realt Dearg Sec · 09-06-2018 5:54pm

The other side of that is he's picking the starting six based on their CURRENT form, which is also awful. The performance by the forwards the last day was among the worst I've seen from a Kilkenny team in the Cody era. I agree that fennelly was bad coming in but if they don't come out all guns blazing to prove that they aren't the team that we saw the last day, then I'll be extremely pessimistic for the future.

But I have a good feeling they'll be playing with a bit of fire in the belly. I fully expect to see Hogan get a run alright. No idea what to make of Leahy, gone right off the boil. This isn't a do or die match, but it's one where a lot of lads should have a point to prove. If they don't play accordingly it'll be an important match for the wrong reason.

citykat · 09-06-2018 7:07pm

Given the lack of training between games, its difficult for lads on the bench to stake a claim for a starting spot. One of the downsides to this format.

paulie gaultieri · 09-06-2018 7:10pm

Ffs Sky showing extra time of Meath v Tyrone which btw has been shiiiiiiiiiite

dastardly00 · 09-06-2018 7:19pm

0-5 to 0-5... For those of us stuck watching the football.

Garyp88 · 09-06-2018 7:19pm

How have they started?

TheMilkyPirate · 09-06-2018 7:22pm

Wexford 0-8 0-5 in front

dastardly00 · 09-06-2018 7:22pm

Wexford leading by 2 now. 0-5 to 0-7

citykat · 09-06-2018 7:23pm

This is un****ing believeable.

dastardly00 · 09-06-2018 7:29pm

This is embarrassing

BoroMan32 · 09-06-2018 7:30pm

An embarrassingly bad start from Kilkenny. Woeful balls out from the back, and pot shots from terrible angles going wide.

Garyp88 · 09-06-2018 7:30pm

Shocking least everyone can holiday in August

BoroMan32 · 09-06-2018 7:33pm

Men against boys, Sheehan and Scanlon being thrown around like rag dolls up there.

Garyp88 · 09-06-2018 7:34pm

Just hope the intensity will take its toll in the second half like a boxer punching there self out

dastardly00 · 09-06-2018 7:35pm

2 points scored from play after 33 minutes... Shameful

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