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Kilkenny GAA Thread Part 3 **MOD NOTE POST 1***

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    #152
    savannahkat
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    Galway could not get out of division 1B. They beat Offaly but who didn't beat Offaly. They beat Kilkenny & Davey's Boys both of whom were playing their 3d game in as many weeks when fatigue had most certainly set in for both. Some yardstick for elevating them to the status of Gods of Hurling.I think such a foundation for so elevated a status is fair weak will not survive the coming storms.


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    #153
    brookville
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    Nedflanders02 wrote: »
    Just wondering does anyone have the U-21 team that played Waterford on Monday?
    i was told the team but forget some of it but from what ill make a stab at it
    dunphy in goal
    michael carey,michael cody,cathal mcgrath
    boro lad wing back name escapes me and tommy walsh and shane murphy in hb line.
    brian cody and ryan bergin mf
    robbie murphy,conor hennessy
    sean carey
    dunno the 3 lads missing think one of the lads is from conahy he got a goal think he played with ucd this year


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    #154
    justbored
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    #155
    brookville
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    i think there was a few changes to that team above.Dont think darren mullen played.Great to see tommy walsh back.
    Wheres tadgh o dwyer is he injured?its dissapointing andy gaffney hasnt kicked on after being a promising minor.Will adrian mullen make the cut after the leaving cert?
    leahy,donnelly,sheehan and mossy will probably link up with the u21s after this weekend it'll be a tough match against galway.


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    #156
    Powerhouse
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    savannahkat wrote: »
    Galway could not get out of division 1B. They beat Offaly but who didn't beat Offaly. They beat Kilkenny & Davey's Boys both of whom were playing their 3d game in as many weeks when fatigue had most certainly set in for both. Some yardstick for elevating them to the status of Gods of Hurling.I think such a foundation for so elevated a status is fair weak will not survive the coming storms.

    It's nice to read something actually approaching discussion for a change and not just received wisdom cliché. There is a tendency some people to predict that any team that gets on top at all will dominate for years. Only time will tell.

    In Galway's favour, Kilkenny are not great (as far as I can assess though some here seem to think they can beat anyone), Tipperary are in decline and probably will exit, Cork have no defence though they have a speedy enough game a bit different to the type of physical game Galway like. It is set up for Galway to have a few good years if they are the team some people claim. They are a mature team but young enough to be around for a few years if they win it this year. But they have been elevated fairly early alright. Leinster Final v Kilkenny (as I expect) will be the most fascinating game for some time. How will a fresher Kilkenny team which has not played three weeks in a row do having learned some lessons for their first game?


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    #157
    Xenophile
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    Village87 wrote: »
    Why dont the bottom team in Munster play the bottom team in Leinster in a Relegation Play off ?


    Sounds like a good idea, play it in a difference Province each year with the Finances going to the relevant Provincial Council.

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    #158
    minty81
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    Xenophile wrote: »
    Village87 wrote: »
    Why dont the bottom team in Munster play the bottom team in Leinster in a Relegation Play off ?


    Sounds like a good idea, play it in a difference Province each year with the Finances going to the relevant Provincial Council.

    So what happens if the Munster team loses but the joe mcdonagh winners are from Leinster?
    Only fair way is to scrap the provinces and make it open draw but delegates will never vote for it


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    #159
    dubcat51
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    Can you scan your season ticket on saturday or do you need to print them off does anyone know.


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    #160
    dzer2
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    dubcat51 wrote: »
    Can you scan your season ticket on saturday or do you need to print them off does anyone know.
    Yes will be on the gate


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    #161
    Floodsurvive
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    dubcat51 wrote: »
    Can you scan your season ticket on saturday or do you need to print them off does anyone know.[/QUOTE

    09/06/2018 - Leinster S.H.C. Kilkenny v Wexford, 7.00pm, Nowlan Park.

    Unreserved Seating in Ardan De Gras. Season Ticket Holders simply required to present their Season Ticket card for scanning at the designated Ardan De Gras turnstiles on Hebron Road


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    #162
    Xenophile
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    minty81 wrote: »
    Only fair way is to scrap the provinces and make it open draw but delegates will never vote for it

    The Munster Hurling Final is the most important event in the GAA calendar after the All Ireland Hurling final attracting Hurling Fans from all over the country many of whom have no chance of getting tickets for the All Ireland Final.

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    #163
    dubcat51
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    Floodsurvive wrote: »
    dubcat51 wrote: »
    Can you scan your season ticket on saturday or do you need to print them off does anyone know.[/QUOTE

    09/06/2018 - Leinster S.H.C. Kilkenny v Wexford, 7.00pm, Nowlan Park.

    Unreserved Seating in Ardan De Gras. Season Ticket Holders simply required to present their Season Ticket card for scanning at the designated Ardan De Gras turnstiles on Hebron Road
    thanks


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    #164
    Powerhouse
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    minty81 wrote: »
    So what happens if the Munster team loses but the joe mcdonagh winners are from Leinster?
    Only fair way is to scrap the provinces and make it open draw but delegates will never vote for it

    Scrapping the provinces because there's a bit of a problem with promotion/relegation would be fairly over the top. The championship will probably end up with two groups anyway and the provinces automatically provide this.


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    #165
    minty81
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    Powerhouse wrote: »
    minty81 wrote: »
    So what happens if the Munster team loses but the joe mcdonagh winners are from Leinster?
    Only fair way is to scrap the provinces and make it open draw but delegates will never vote for it

    Scrapping the provinces because there's a bit of a problem with promotion/relegation would be fairly over the top. The championship will probably end up with two groups anyway and the provinces automatically provide this.
    Except the bit of the problem is a big discrepancy. A championship shouldn't be played where theres different rules for one than the other.
    The conditions for Kerry to be promoted are very different to the other teams they're competing against for no other reasons than geographical.
    Every team should be playing to the same rules, only way this can happen is to do it open draw


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    #166
    Powerhouse
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    minty81 wrote: »
    Except the bit of the problem is a big discrepancy. A championship shouldn't be played where theres different rules for one than the other.
    The conditions for Kerry to be promoted are very different to the other teams they're competing against for no other reasons than geographical.
    Every team should be playing to the same rules, only way this can happen is to do it open draw

    Since when is it necessary that "every team should be playing to the same rules"? Different rules have existed in different provinces for decades. Even in recent years the Leinster hurling finalists have gotten a bye into the provincial semi-finals - Tipperary were Munster champions in 2015/16 and had to play in the quarter-final in the following year and play an extra game. Why was nobody concerned about different rules then?

    Anyway leaving short and selective memories aside, if every team should be playing to the same rules then why not just take the simplest option and change the rules? Why the need for a big drama which changes the entire format of the championship just because of one county?


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    #167
    minty81
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    Powerhouse wrote: »
    minty81 wrote: »
    Except the bit of the problem is a big discrepancy. A championship shouldn't be played where theres different rules for one than the other.
    The conditions for Kerry to be promoted are very different to the other teams they're competing against for no other reasons than geographical.
    Every team should be playing to the same rules, only way this can happen is to do it open draw

    Since when is it necessary that "every team should be playing to the same rules"? Different rules have existed in different provinces for decades. Even in recent years the Leinster hurling finalists have gotten a bye into the provincial semi-finals - Tipperary were Munster champions in 2015/16 and had to play in the quarter-final in the following year and play an extra game. Why was nobody concerned about different rules then?

    Anyway leaving short and selective memories aside, if every team should be playing to the same rules then why not just take the simplest option and change the rules? Why the need for a big drama which changes the entire format of the championship just because of one county?

    Isn't that the point?? Different rules have existed in the provincial championships and I find it impossible to think of a scenario where a fair championship with same rules can be applied under the provincial system. So therefore if we want a fully fair system for all counties then only system that could work is an open draw.
    What is your simplest option to change the rules?
    By the way on your point about Leinster champions getting a bye into semi final, Cody has previously said he disagrees with it and believes the Leinster champions should be in the draw at same time as rest of the counties.


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    #168
    Powerhouse
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    minty81 wrote: »

    What is your simplest option to change the rules?

    The simplest option to change the rules would be for Leinster to do what they should have done at the time and insist that the same play-off rule applied to Leinster as to Munster. Whether someone agrees with the play-off or not is another matter but it's far easier to tweak the rules than to try to being about a monumental and likely to be resisted shift by obliterating the provincial championships. Put a motion to congress or whatever.


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    #169
    greenspurs
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    Freddie Flintoff and Jamie Redknapp will be on the pitch at Half time with Dj Carey shooting a segment for their show "League of their Own" .....
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    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



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    #170
    greenspurs
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    Xenophile wrote: »
    The Munster Hurling Final is the most important event in the GAA calendar after the All Ireland Hurling final attracting Hurling Fans from all over the country many of whom have no chance of getting tickets for the All Ireland Final.

    See ......

    "Shur Munster is sacred ........ " yeh right ......
    247469249_2017413731748359_7675802031635703098_n.jpg

    "Bright lights and Thunder .................... " #NoPopcorn



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    #171
    Powerhouse
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    A Leinster semi final tomorrow night and no comment here since 20 to 10 this morning? You wouldn’t get that in Munster you can be sure!


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    #172
    Charlie69
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    Powerhouse wrote: »
    A Leinster semi final tomorrow night and no comment here since 20 to 10 this morning? You wouldn’t get that in Munster you can be sure!
    Get out into the sunshine Powerhouse... it might make you a happier person.:D


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    #173
    Realt Dearg Sec
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    Powerhouse wrote: »
    You wouldn’t get that in Munster you can be sure!

    If you can get a Munster man to be quiet for five minutes you're doing very well.


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    #174
    citykat
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    Powerhouse wrote: »
    A Leinster semi final tomorrow night and no comment here since 20 to 10 this morning? You wouldn’t get that in Munster you can be sure!
    We like to do our talking on the pitch...


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    #175
    tbiggertycome
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    Kil v Wex
    E Murphy
    E Morrissey P Walsh P Deegan
    C Delaney C Buckley P Murphy
    C Fogarty J Maher
    M Keoghan TJ Reid L Blanchfield
    J Donnelly W Walsh L Scanlon
    Subs
    D Brennan
    J Holden
    C O'Shea
    J Cleere
    C Browne
    G Aylward
    C Fennelly
    P Lyng
    R Leahy
    R Hogan
    B Sheehan


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    #176
    JJs Left Hand
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    I'd be surprised if that team starts


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    #177
    blackcard
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    JJs Left Hand wrote: »
    I'd be surprised if that team starts

    What changes do you expect?


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    #178
    JJs Left Hand
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    Richie from the start. Maybe Colin.


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    #179
    brookville
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    JJs Left Hand wrote: »
    Richie from the start. Maybe Colin.
    Id also be suprised if that team starts but you wouldnt know.I would of thought maybe leahy and colin would of started but with the same team announced as the last day he either wants a big performance from the same group or is just playing mind games.Either way the bench looks strong but we seen the last day colin made no impression.
    its good to see cleere and aylward making the squad hopefully kevin kelly will be back soon.


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    #180
    dubcat51
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    Cant see that team starting as the bench looks stronger IMO


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    #181
    JJs Left Hand
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    Kilkenny teams started well in the Féile

    Boro 2 from 2. They're a serious outfit and should go close.
    Emeralds with a win and a draw.
    Graignamanagh 2 from 2.


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