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Van Morrison duet with Ian Paisley Jnr.

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    seaninbayarea
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭seaninbayarea


    I’ve been a huge Van fan since the early 80s, bought nearly all his albums and seen him many times. Always overlooked his contrariness but this is a bridge too far. Very disappointing


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    Shaka Hislop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 486 ✭✭Shaka Hislop


    seaninbayarea wrote: »
    I’ve been a huge Van fan since the early 80s, bought nearly all his albums and seen him many times. Always overlooked his contrariness but this is a bridge too far. Very disappointing

    This is the straw that broke the camels back?
    He's been spouting dangerous rubbish for years imo


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    Dr. Bre
    Registered Users Posts: 7,537 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Tan Morrison


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    seaninbayarea
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭seaninbayarea


    Shaka Hislop wrote: »
    This is the straw that broke the camels back?
    He's been spouting dangerous rubbish for years imo

    Pretty much.


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    elperello
    Registered Users Posts: 14,258 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Nothing new here.

    Van has always been grumpy and Ian has always been a dope.

    At least Van's saving grace is his genius.


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    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,166 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Prefer The Prodigy, The Pope, and Paisley Sr.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g76vSJzKOB8


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    silliussoddius
    Registered Users Posts: 3,727 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Into the septic


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    onform
    Registered Users Posts: 472 ✭✭onform


    If you just heard the chant you might think they were saying "Robbing swans is very dangerous", which is reasonable advise. They can break a man's arm...


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    Dempo1
    Registered Users Posts: 26,924 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Always thought Van Morrison was a cantankerous oaf and cared liitle about anything but himself, Arrogant, belligerent are two other discriptions that come to mind. I suppose this performance (if you could call it that) typifies what the odious G** he is.

    Did I mention his music is whiney S**** also :)

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    Tork
    Registered Users Posts: 3,261 ✭✭✭Tork


    It brings to mind music journalist Mark Ellen's quote "There appeared to be two types of people in the world: those who liked Van Morrison and those who’d met him.”


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    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,490 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    onform wrote: »
    If you just heard the chant you might think they were saying "Robbing swans is very dangerous", which is reasonable advise. They can break a man's arm...

    Can a swan break your arm? It's actually a myth, there are no reports that a swan has ever broken someone's arm. The bones in their wings are much thinner and smaller than human bones, and they're also quite hollow - experts have said they'd be more likely to break their bones if they tried to do it to a human.


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    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Can a swan break your arm? It's actually a myth, there are no reports that a swan has ever broken someone's arm. The bones in their wings are much thinner and smaller than human bones, and they're also quite hollow - experts have said they'd be more likely to break their bones if they tried to do it to a human.

    That’s ruined it now.

    Thanks Dr Bird.


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    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 18,976 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Always thought Van Morrison was a cantankerous oaf and cared liitle about anything but himself, Arrogant, belligerent are two other discriptions that come to mind. I suppose this performance (if you could call it that) typifies what the odious G** he is.

    Did I mention his music is whiney S**** also :)

    There were allegations of him hitting a partner, Michelle Rocca?


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    Dempo1
    Registered Users Posts: 26,924 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    everlast75 wrote: »
    There were allegations of him hitting a partner, Michelle Rocca?

    Alledged of course but I knew neighbours when he lived in Dublin and by all accounts not pleasant at all to deal with, all sorts of boundary disputes, objections odd behaviour etc

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    olestoepoke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    I'm a big fan of his music, for me one of the greatest musical talents this island has ever produced. In my younger days I was a regular concert goer and hands down the best show I ever saw was Van in Madison Square Garden NYC, but he's always been an odd character and I was very disappointed seeing this. Was he drunk?


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    olestoepoke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Always thought Van Morrison was a cantankerous oaf and cared liitle about anything but himself, Arrogant, belligerent are two other discriptions that come to mind. I suppose this performance (if you could call it that) typifies what the odious G** he is.

    Did I mention his music is whiney S**** also :)

    You were doing great but you let yourself down with this quote. Van is a generational musical talent, multi-instrumentalist who is critically acclaimed throughout the world. Tickets for his concerts in the likes of the US sell out in minutes. Not bad for someone who produces "whiney ****e" eh?


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    ginoginelli
    Registered Users Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    So disappointing that the guy who wrote into the mystic is such a twat.


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    [Deleted User]
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    elperello wrote: »
    Nothing new here.

    Van has always been grumpy and Ian has always been a dope.

    At least Van's saving grace is his genius.

    Language like 'genius' is thrown around with comical abandon when it comes to musicians. :pac:

    It's what turns so many of them into insufferable twats, like Van.

    So your post has it all and hits the nail on the head, even if you didn't make the connection.


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    Hangdogroad
    Registered Users Posts: 4,883 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    It's been common knowledge for decades that hes a monumental gobshyte but hes really surpassing himself lately.


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    Dempo1
    Registered Users Posts: 26,924 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    olestoepoke wrote: »
    You were doing great but you let yourself down with this quote. Van is a generational musical talent, multi-instrumentalist who is critically acclaimed throughout the world. Tickets for his concerts in the likes of the US sell out in minutes. Not bad for someone who produces "whiney ****e" eh?

    Fair point but I've never subscribed to discribing a sound akin to a screeching Banshee having a tooth extraction Genius. Just on his concerts, I've heard tell of as many dissapointed fans as happy ones, the impression generally being, he'd much rather be somewhere else. I saw a post recently where it appears his entire performance was done with his back to the audience. No doubting his success, I'm just flummoxed as to how it happened to be honest.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    The Master
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 14,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Master


    Fair play to Van for standing up for something he believes in....

    He's a musician who's lived through the US civil rights movement and of course The Troubles without writing a song about it

    But ask the cúnt to wash his hands and he releases a protest album and tries to take the country to court


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    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users Posts: 16,008 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Shaka Hislop wrote: »
    This is the straw that broke the camels back?
    He's been spouting dangerous rubbish for years imo

    He's real real gone now though.


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    dxhound2005
    Registered Users Posts: 20,490 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    OSI wrote: »
    A swan broke my cousins arm and collar bone.

    She was walking by a lake and tripped and fell into one of those swan pedalos.

    And of course the Robin Swan is capable of doing severe damage. I wonder how much thought his parents put into coming up with the name Robin Swann.

    In the local paper I saw a report about a man called Fechin Rath winning a Pitch'n'Putt match.

    https://www.independent.ie/regionals/droghedaindependent/localnotes/termonfeckin-27164454.html


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    olestoepoke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Fair point but I've never subscribed to discribing a sound akin to a screeching Banshee having a tooth extraction Genius. Just on his concerts, I've heard tell of as many dissapointed fans as happy ones, the impression generally being, he'd much rather be somewhere else. I saw a post recently where it appears his entire performance was done with his back to the audience. No doubting his success, I'm just flummoxed as to how it happened to be honest.

    He was and is successful because he is insanely talented, simple as that. You don't like his music which is fair enough. I'm not crazy about U2 never really got the hype but I recognise they are a talented group of guys who have a worldwide fanbase. As for bad live performances, what you described sounded a lot like Bob Dylan. Are you also flummoxed by his success?


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    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    The "I don't like Van Morrison" train is leaving the Botanic railway station at 5.15.


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    Dempo1
    Registered Users Posts: 26,924 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    olestoepoke wrote: »
    He was and is successful because he is insanely talented, simple as that. You don't like his music which is fair enough. I'm not crazy about U2 never really got the hype but I recognise they are a talented group of guys who have a worldwide fanbase. As for bad live performances, what you described sounded a lot like Bob Dylan. Are you also flummoxed by his success?

    U2 as a group simply and consistantly excellent, the same could be said for Bob Dylan. Bono is an ass but not hateful, spiteful mean etc, Morrison to his fans is no doubt excellent too albeit he's a bit like Marmite. Having talent doesn't I believe excuse rudeness, biligerence, ignorance etc. Aside from the man I can't abide, can I be forgiven for not liking his music, which is quite simply Gik.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    Fuascailteoir
    Registered Users Posts: 584 ✭✭✭Fuascailteoir


    olestoepoke wrote: »
    He was and is successful because he is insanely talented, simple as that. You don't like his music which is fair enough. I'm not crazy about U2 never really got the hype but I recognise they are a talented group of guys who have a worldwide fanbase. As for bad live performances, what you described sounded a lot like Bob Dylan. Are you also flummoxed by his success?

    The days of having to have a lot of talent to obtain fame and fortune are over decades ago.


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    padd b1975
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    Van jumped the shark 25 years ago when he did a duet with Cliff Richard.


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    Tork
    Registered Users Posts: 3,261 ✭✭✭Tork


    I've always thought he was over-rated and that he got away with being an arsehole because journalists fawned over him. Is he really that talented or are people giving him too much leeway based on some albums he made decades ago?


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    olestoepoke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭olestoepoke


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    U2 as a group simply and consistantly excellent, the same could be said for Bob Dylan. Bono is an ass but not hateful, spiteful mean etc, Morrison to his fans is no doubt excellent too albeit he's a bit like Marmite. Having talent doesn't I believe excuse rudeness, biligerence, ignorance etc. Aside from the man I can't abide, can I be forgiven for not liking his music, which is quite simply Gik.

    Fair enough, but I suggest you go back to you original post calling his music ****e and insert the words "In my opinion"


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