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Saorview Connect

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  • #152
    mackersdublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    What about existing Saorview Approved Combi TVs like Samsung for example which are Freesat Approved as well

    Will this new EPG work on them i wonder


  • #153
    Hibrasil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Hibrasil


    mackersdublin wrote: »
    What about existing Saorview Approved Combi TVs like Samsung for example which are Freesat Approved as well

    Will this new EPG work on them i wonder

    I may be correct in saying the EPG is basically receivable (or interpreted) by the S T B (Set top box) software .......and an old S T B's would not have the same software ( I'm no expert ...but with the little understanding that I have ....so you can guess it's somewhat speculative)...but then again it may not be speculative..so apologies if I'm wrong..:o


  • #154
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    Hibrasil wrote: »
    I may be correct in saying the EPG is basically receivable (or interpreted) by the S T B (Set top box) software .......and an old S T B's would not have the same software ( I'm no expert ...but with the little understanding that I have ....so you can guess it's somewhat speculative)...but then again it may not be speculative..so apologies if I'm wrong..:o

    Yes you are correct in your interpretation.

    The gridline data for playback will not work without this software.

    Normal epg will remain on those legacy TV's and STB's.


  • #155
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,639 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Article in the Indo comparing prices of the different TV packages.

    http://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/can-you-afford-next-generation-tv-34470554.html

    This from the section on Saorview
    You will have to buy a Saorview Connect box to get the new product. It is unclear as yet exactly how much that box will cost.

    "The manufacturers have not confirmed box pricing but there will be a range of boxes and so the pricing will vary," said a spokeswoman for Saorview.

    It is unclear too how compelling the on-demand content to be provided through Saorview Connect will be. The TV programmes and movies available may well pale in comparison to those being offered by the likes of Sky and Virgin Media.

    A spokeswoman for Saorview would not divulge details of the content line-up for Saorview Connect, apart from saying that it will have a number of catch-up TV players and on-demand services.

    "Users will be able to access these if they connect their Saorview Connect box to their broadband service," she said. "Some of the on-demand content providers may offer paid-for content, but this will be optional."


  • #156
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,416 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
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    I hope Netflix is included as an App on the box.


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  • #157
    Tony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Yes that would be a very useful addition if Netflix were interested.

    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    I hope Netflix is included as an App on the box.

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  • #158
    Tony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Latest from Saorview

    "Development of the Connect box is at an advanced stage, and we expect to be able to let you know more about the specification of the first boxes to come to market in the next few weeks. Boxes will be competitively priced at a level that will be appealing to consumers who want to upgrade or make the switch to Saorview."

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  • #159
    corm500
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭corm500


    Tony wrote: »
    Latest from Saorview

    "Development of the Connect box is at an advanced stage, and we expect to be able to let you know more about the specification of the first boxes to come to market in the next few weeks. Boxes will be competitively priced at a level that will be appealing to consumers who want to upgrade or make the switch to Saorview."

    Great news. I think though that minimum spec should include:

    1. combined Saorview and Freesat epg
    2. Catch up service
    3. RTE, 3player, ITV player and Channel 4 player
    4. Series link
    5. remote record.
    6. 1tb hard drive.

    Unrealistic to hope for these?


  • #160
    ftakeith
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ftakeith


    corm500 wrote: »
    Great news. I think though that minimum spec should include:

    1. combined Saorview and Freesat epg
    2. Catch up service
    3. RTE, 3player, ITV player and Channel 4 player
    4. Series link
    5. remote record.
    6. 1tb hard drive.

    Unrealistic to hope for these?


    1. combined Saorview and Freesat epg (it won't happen
    2. Catch up service (it will happen)
    3. RTE, 3player, ITV player (itv player available on freesat freetime) and Channel 4 player (All4 is available on Now TV and chromecast)
    4. Series link
    5. remote record. 'available'
    6. 1tb hard drive (freesat freetime).


  • #161
    corm500
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭corm500


    ftakeith wrote: »
    1. combined Saorview and Freesat epg (it won't happen
    2. Catch up service (it will happen)
    3. RTE, 3player, ITV player (itv player available on freesat freetime) and Channel 4 player (All4 is available on Now TV and chromecast)
    4. Series link
    5. remote record. 'available'
    6. 1tb hard drive (freesat freetime).

    So basically, its just what we had but now with internet connectivity? Surely this is an opportunity to get people watching the Irish channels again, which is not going to happen if people have to switch between about four different boxes to get any sort of reasonable TV viewing experience without going down the pay TV route. I havent watched Irish TV in about six months as its too much hastle to go from one box to another fiddling about with HDMI switchers at the back of the TV, so I just watch my Freesat box which has most of the channels that I want anyway.


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  • #162
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    I think there is an EPG version for satellite, whether its 7 day epg is the big question if posts previous are anything to go by.


  • #163
    Tony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    I think it should be borne in mind that saorview can only control their own content so its a matter for each individual provider whether they want to provide additional features. We don't pay for free to air Tv from the UK so they are under no obligation to allow their players and epg's be provided.

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  • #164
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    I continue to wait for the STB which will provide me with what I can easily build myself ........

    I don't expect that to happen any time soon.

    dual Saorview tuners
    dual Sat tuners
    HDD for recording multiple channels at the one time
    facility to provide multi-room/device output of liveTV and stored recordings/videos over LAN
    internet access (ethernet a 'must' and wireless optionally) with streaming function
    7 day Guide/EPG for all Sat and Saorview channels in the one listing
    Channel list editable by user

    Probably a lot more but those are the high points for me. :)


  • #165
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Am I right in that the EPG from Freesat is different in nature from both the Saorview and the Freeview one? My oldest TV is Freeview and works with the Saorview EPG. My main TV is Saorview approved but is set to UK because it is Freesat enabled. The two EPGs are different in the way they work, even though they are on the same TV.


  • #166
    corm500
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭corm500


    Tony wrote: »
    I think it should be borne in mind that saorview can only control their own content so its a matter for each individual provider whether they want to provide additional features. We don't pay for free to air Tv from the UK so they are under no obligation to allow their players and epg's be provided.

    I understand that Saorview only control their own content, but what is available to me, legally in this country is Saorview through a combi box, most UK FTA channels and ITV player along with series link and a hard drive through my Freesat box, All4, 3 Player etc through my Ipad. What I am looking for is for these legal and 100% above board means of getting FTA content to be put together on one easy to manage box. It shouldnt be rocket science and if someone brought one to market they would make a killing.


  • #167
    Tony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    I hear what you are saying but saorview cannot do this without the permission of the content owners. There is no technical barrier to doing any of the things you suggest.

    corm500 wrote: »
    I understand that Saorview only control their own content, but what is available to me, legally in this country is Saorview through a combi box, most UK FTA channels and ITV player along with series link and a hard drive through my Freesat box, All4, 3 Player etc through my Ipad. What I am looking for is for these legal and 100% above board means of getting FTA content to be put together on one easy to manage box. It shouldnt be rocket science and if someone brought one to market they would make a killing.

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  • #168
    jgbyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭jgbyr


    Just got this by email from saorview :

    Press the Red Button!

    Here at Saorview we love TV and we will be letting you know about upcoming TV highlights. Starting off with this weekend, when we will be using the Saorview Red Button for the first time!

    On Saturday evening TG4 will broadcast live the Guinness Pro 12 Rugby match between Connacht and Ospreys with coverage starting from 7pm - but, you can only watch the match by pressing the Red Button on your remote control during TG4's coverage of the Election 2016 count.


  • #169
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    jgbyr wrote: »
    Just got this by email from saorview :

    Press the Red Button!

    Here at Saorview we love TV and we will be letting you know about upcoming TV highlights. Starting off with this weekend, when we will be using the Saorview Red Button for the first time!

    On Saturday evening TG4 will broadcast live the Guinness Pro 12 Rugby match between Connacht and Ospreys with coverage starting from 7pm - but, you can only watch the match by pressing the Red Button on your remote control during TG4's coverage of the Election 2016 count.

    Does this mean what it says - or only during the match since the count will go on before and after the match?


  • #170
    Atlantic Dawn
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    jgbyr wrote: »
    you can only watch the match by pressing the Red Button on your remote control during TG4's coverage of the Election 2016 count.

    Or any box that can manually tune in the red button channel :D


  • #171
    jgbyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,377 ✭✭✭jgbyr


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    Does this mean what it says - or only during the match since the count will go on before and after the match?

    "While watching TG4 at channel number 4 on Saorview, when you see the icon appear on screen, press the Red Button on the remote control that works with your Saorview Approved box or TV, and you will be able to watch the match."


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  • #172
    Tony
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    Re: The red button there's a thread on this here http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057563299

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  • #173
    bk
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    If these new boxes are just the same old Saorview content with just some internet abilities (RTE Player, TV3 Plaer, etc.) and no integrated FTA satellite * and EPG, then it will be a failure.

    People just don't care about the limited line up of Irish channels, when they have 80+ excellent channels available on Freesat and some Irish catchup and player services won't change that.

    In order for Saorview to be truly successful it needs to merge FTA sat and saorview in a decent 7 day EPG with serieslink.

    * Note I've been avoiding saying Freesat, Freesat might not license their EPG to Saorview, but there is nothing stopping Saorview licensing the channel data directly from the channels (just as RTE does for the RTE guide) and creating their own EPG for the FTA sat channels and distributing it via Saorview DTT, thus bypassing Freesat.


  • #174
    slinky2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,286 ✭✭✭slinky2000


    bk wrote: »
    If these new boxes are just the same old Saorview content with just some internet abilities (RTE Player, TV3 Plaer, etc.) and no integrated FTA satellite * and EPG, then it will be a failure.

    People just don't care about the limited line up of Irish channels, when they have 80+ excellent channels available on Freesat and some Irish catchup and player services won't change that.

    In order for Saorview to be truly successful it needs to merge FTA sat and saorview in a decent 7 day EPG with serieslink.

    * Note I've been avoiding saying Freesat, Freesat might not license their EPG to Saorview, but there is nothing stopping Saorview licensing the channel data directly from the channels (just as RTE does for the RTE guide) and creating their own EPG for the FTA sat channels and distributing it via Saorview DTT, thus bypassing Freesat.

    Totally agree. Freesat in the UK has an excellent standardised UI and experience.

    Saorview need to do the same with the Irish and FTA satellite channels.


  • #175
    Maysa07
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭Maysa07


    ftakeith wrote: »
    1. combined Saorview and Freesat epg (it won't happen
    2. Catch up service (it will happen)
    3. RTE, 3player, ITV player (itv player available on freesat freetime) and Channel 4 player (All4 is available on Now TV and chromecast)
    4. Series link
    5. remote record. 'available'
    6. 1tb hard drive (freesat freetime).

    It will have wireless connectivity and Ethernet too..


  • #176
    channelsurfer2
    Registered Users Posts: 2,618 ✭✭✭channelsurfer2


    cant see Saorview actually paying stations for EPG listings. It would be challenged by Sky etc as going beyond their remit.


  • #177
    Tony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    I totally agree and I like the idea of licensing the epg info, this could ensure that only ROI versions of channels would appear and give advertisers more assurance.


    bk wrote: »
    If these new boxes are just the same old Saorview content with just some internet abilities (RTE Player, TV3 Plaer, etc.) and no integrated FTA satellite * and EPG, then it will be a failure.

    People just don't care about the limited line up of Irish channels, when they have 80+ excellent channels available on Freesat and some Irish catchup and player services won't change that.

    In order for Saorview to be truly successful it needs to merge FTA sat and saorview in a decent 7 day EPG with serieslink.

    * Note I've been avoiding saying Freesat, Freesat might not license their EPG to Saorview, but there is nothing stopping Saorview licensing the channel data directly from the channels (just as RTE does for the RTE guide) and creating their own EPG for the FTA sat channels and distributing it via Saorview DTT, thus bypassing Freesat.

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  • #178
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Another route would be for Saorview to put their channel info onto the Freesat EPG (maybe hidden from non Saorview boxes) and for the box to sort out LCNs.


  • #179
    bk
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    channelsurfer2 wrote: »
    cant see Saorview actually paying stations for EPG listings. It would be challenged by Sky etc as going beyond their remit.

    It might be challenged by Sky, but they wouldn't have a leg to stand on. The EU has made it very clear that overspill is completely ok.


  • #180
    Tony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Could be the other way around stations might pay them, most get advertising revenue and they already broadcast ROI versions of channels.

    channelsurfer2 wrote: »
    cant see Saorview actually paying stations for EPG listings. It would be challenged by Sky etc as going beyond their remit.

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  • #181
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    I must say that I am rather fascinated, in a weird sort of way, by this 'licencing' of EPG data.

    If I am broadcasting a TV channel I would be delighted to have my channel content displayed in as many places as possible.

    Why would I need to charge for it (or want to charge) or even licence it only to specific entities?

    I can see the purpose of protecting something like the Freesat or Sky EPG display so it cannot be duplicated and some other entity misrepresent their display as Sky or Freesat.

    I cannot imagine what exactly broadcast companies are protecting if they are licencing the content listing of their channels.
    It seems counter to getting their content in front of as many viewers as possible.

    ..... or am I misunderstand the comments about licencing EPG in this thread?


  • #182
    Tony
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Tony


    Indeed and since they broadcast ROI versions they are clearly targeting their advertising

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  • #183
    [Deleted User]
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    It has always been this way. In fact, before the early 1990s, you had to buy the RTE Guide, Radio Times and TV Times for RTE, BBC and ITV/C4 respectively, because the guides weren't allowed to publish the listings for other channels.


  • #184
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Karsini wrote: »
    It has always been this way. In fact, before the early 1990s, you had to buy the RTE Guide, Radio Times and TV Times for RTE, BBC and ITV/C4 respectively, because the guides weren't allowed to publish the listings for other channels.

    But that was to protect the in-house publications.


  • #185
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    So besides "It has always been this way." has anyone got a reasonable, current, explanation as to why the channel EPG data should not be available to everyone, without fees and maybe a simple licence to ensure the full data is used if any is to be used?

    Would it not benefit the channels themselves to have it so?


  • #186
    Carawaystick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    Where's my amiko Alien2 running spark getting the 7-day epg from? Why can't all sat receivers get the same info?


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  • #187
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Carawaystick wrote: »
    Where's my amiko Alien2 running spark getting the 7-day epg from? Why can't all sat receivers get the same info?

    Scraped from websites?


  • #188
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    Carawaystick wrote: »
    Where's my amiko Alien2 running spark getting the 7-day epg from? Why can't all sat receivers get the same info?
    CrossEPG? I think it uses the Freesat or OpenTV/Sky data, albeit unofficially.


  • #189
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    One of the pluses if Saorview get the EPG info independantly, they will be able to order the channels anyway they like. Because all the kit will be HD, they can forget about SD versions of channels that are available in HD. They can also number the channels in a logical order, not on a first come first ordered.


  • #190
    bk
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    Johnboy1951 I think you are spot on with your questions above.

    There really isn't any reason why channels wouldn't want to make their TV channel guides as widely available as possible. Obviously Eir, Vodafone and Virgin are all licensing this channel data for their own EPG's for their TV services.

    As you say we can totally understand why Sky/Freesat want to protect their own EPG design. Which is the issue Sat4Free fell foul of as they were unofficially using the Freesat EPG. But I don't see anything stopping Saorview from licensing the data from the channels and creating their own EPG, just like Eir/Vodafone/Virgin.

    The one wrinkle is that BBC/ITV own Freesat, so they might want to limit access to the channel data, so that others can't bypass Freesat in this way and create an Irish "Freesat".

    However I think they have loosened up about that now. C4 would probably be delighted to have more exposure in Ireland, as they have had Irish adverts on their channels for years now. ITV having now purchased UTV are likely to be much more involved and interested in the Irish market and like C4 may also launch Irish TV advert versions of their other channels, so likely to be happy to see Saorview do better too.


  • #191
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,031 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    bk wrote:
    There really isn't any reason why channels wouldn't want to make their TV channel guides as widely available as possible. Obviously Eir, Vodafone and Virgin are all licensing this channel data for their own EPG's for their TV services.

    Have you any idea of the terms of such licencing?

    I can well understand that any broadcaster might want acknowledgement that it is their data, and set terms around how it should be displayed .... such as in full and not edited etc. ...... but I have questions about fees they might be inclined to charge.

    For instance, if they want their channel promoted properly then it is in their interest to have a full (official?) EPG available in as many places as possible.

    Essentially, although a licence would be available, it could be without cost, IMO.

    Which makes me wonder about the present situation ...... when people refer to licence of such data are they also referring to a cost and if so does anyone have any figures for such licences?

    Thanks.


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  • #192
    bk
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    Stuff like channel metadata is copyrighted by the producers of the data (the TV networks) and as such anyone who wants to use that data (for TV guides, EPG's, etc.) have to get a license from the copyright owner to use it.

    The TV networks might either charge a fee for the license or simply give a free license, but they will often have a number of conditions attached on how the data is used, etc.

    I've no idea if the various channels charge or how much they might charge. I'm of the opinion that for ad supported TV channels it is in their interest to be as widely displayed as possible and thus in their interest to make this data widely available as it helps promote their service.

    Having said all that, I am not a lawyer, so you should take the above with a pinch of salt.


  • #193
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Carawaystick wrote: »
    Where's my amiko Alien2 running spark getting the 7-day epg from? Why can't all sat receivers get the same info?
    For non UK channels the EPG is generally free and open.

    For UK channels on Astra all you have is now and next unless your box can decrypt SKY or Freesat EPGs. BTW If you have certain old SKY boxes then the EPG data trickles out of the serial port. It's another place to scrape data from but not really worth the effort because the web is easier. http://tvbrowser.org/ scrapes data from the interweb , handy if you've an old Humax box with a painfully slow EPG (the Humax is slow , currently on day 3 of converting recordings to streaming format). It also highlights favourites and I've set it up to hide soaps.

    But said Humax can have non-Freesat channels added. Unless saorview anywhere offers some special magic then I might just get a Ka LNB and add the channels manually. PITA that there'd be no proper series link but most saorview stuff is on freesat too and I'd have the option of a timed recording. Or perhaps look at some Humax Fox2 box and share the files back to the other box.

    If Saorview Anywhere doesn't have UK EPG then I'll continue to watch UK ads because my Freesat box has most of the programs I watch and I can stream to tablets.


  • #194
    Capt'n Midnight
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    bk wrote: »
    It might be challenged by Sky, but they wouldn't have a leg to stand on. The EU has made it very clear that overspill is completely ok.
    No to to mention that the rights holders have already been paid for the overspill.


  • #195
    ftakeith
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭ftakeith


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    No to to mention that the rights holders have already been paid for the overspill.
    any news when saorview connect receivers are on sale


  • #196
    Hibrasil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Hibrasil


    ftakeith wrote: »
    any news when saorview connect receivers are on sale
    My best guess (for what it's worth) is end of April at the earliest....if I'm wrong...then its "humble pie" etc:o


  • #197
    The Cush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,639 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    ftakeith wrote: »
    any news when saorview connect receivers are on sale

    This is the most up to date information we have from Saorview via Tony last week
    Tony wrote: »
    Latest from Saorview

    "Development of the Connect box is at an advanced stage, and we expect to be able to let you know more about the specification of the first boxes to come to market in the next few weeks. Boxes will be competitively priced at a level that will be appealing to consumers who want to upgrade or make the switch to Saorview."


  • #198
    mackersdublin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭mackersdublin


    Will new TVs have the Saorview Connected service or just STBs?


  • #199
    The Cush
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    mackersdublin wrote: »
    Will new TVs have the Saorview Connected service or just STBs?

    This is the information we're waiting for from saorview.


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    Tony
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    It will certainly be open to Tv manufacturers to incorporate this into Tv's but I'm not aware of any who plan to at this point.

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    The Cush
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    This from 2 RTÉ tenders relating to Saorview Connect retailing which closed at the end of Feb

    https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=96364&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders

    - RTÉ invites submissions, from suitably qualified Tenderers to provide Point of Sale Display Merchandise for use by to Saorview retailers across the Republic of Ireland, comprising a mix of Saorview branded POS materials as specified.
    As part of ongoing platform development, Saorview intends to launch a new service called Saorview Connect that will be supported by a new type of Saorview Approved receiver to be sold in its retail network. The receiver type at launch will be a Set-Top Box (STB) that connects to the user’s TV set.

    There are approximately 480 retail outlets that stock Saorview Approved receivers in Ireland. These comprise a mix of independents, retail multiples and buying group members.

    With the launch of Saorview Connect, it will be necessary to develop and produce an appropriate range of new Saorview branded POS display merchandise materials. It is envisaged that these materials will be required for delivery to stores commencing during Q2 2016 and there will be an ongoing requirement for POS display merchandise as new products are rolled out during the remainder of 2016 and into 2017.

    Saorview is seeking suitably qualified, equipped and experienced applicants for the supply of POS display merchandising materials to support Saorview Connect. Saorview will provide the designs, branding artwork and logos, but there may be a requirement for separate design of specific items. The cost of design services should therefore form part of the tender response

    The Saorview POS items to be provided will comprise a mix of Saorview branded POS display merchandising material including posters, strut cards, FSDUs, shelf stands, product displays and other similar POS.

    https://irl.eu-supply.com/app/rfq/publicpurchase_frameset.asp?PID=96358&B=ETENDERS_SIMPLE&PS=1&PP=ctm/Supplier/PublicTenders

    - RTÉ invites submissions, from suitably qualified Tenderers to provide merchandising services to Saorview retailers across the Republic of Ireland, comprising in-store placement of Saorview branded POS materials and conducting Saorview in-store presentations on behalf of the brand.
    With the launch of Saorview Connect, it will be necessary to merchandise the retailers in our network with a range of new POS materials, and to arrange a series of in-store theatre events that will be announced as the Saorview Connect Roadshow [20x1 day roadshows]. It is envisaged that this work will commence in Q2 2016 and will be an ongoing requirement as new products are rolled out during the remainder of 2016 and into 2017.

    Saorview is seeking suitably qualified, equipped and experienced applicants for the provision of merchandising and in-store theatre services to support Saorview Connect.

    The Saorview merchandising services to be provided are as follows:

    1. Distribution and placement of a mix of Saorview branded POS material including posters, strut cards, FSDUs, shelf stands, product displays and other similar POS.

    1(a) Optional – assembly of POS kits prior to their distribution and placement in stores.

    2. Planning, organizing and staging of in-store presentations events (Saorview Roadshow) to support new product announcements and PR activity. The estimated cost creation of such displays as will be used in these events will be included in the tender reply.

    3. Provision of comprehensive reporting on all merchandising and in-store theatre activities, to include images, retailer feedback, and detailed reports on retailer refusal of POS. In addition, in-store theatre event reporting is to include consumer and retailer feedback as appropriate and metrics on footfall and consumer engagement.


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