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Turning Colder Thursday - Wintry Showers/Snow to High Ground

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Despite temperatures only dipping to -0.6c here last night with the persistent NW breeze kept temperatures higher than -2c forecasted.

    However, that breeze has dried out the ground and also sucked out alot of heat. 5cm soils are below 2c! There was a hard frost too and for the first time this season the roads were icy.

    Current temperatures are 2.9c with a dewpoint of 1.3c. With the cloud to the NE visible, this should soon kill off insolation and perhaps temperatures will drop enough for snow to fall?

    Of note in the UK at the moment there is snow falling in areas just 30 miles (50km) from the seas there. Is there a prospect of inland frontal snow for a time from this occluded front?

    Time will tell! Its unusual that a mild sector from the NE is chasing cold air in the SW!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,965 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Aside from a few shaded areas, the Snow was all gone by 9 this morning. It doesn't feel as cold as i expected it to be with this breeze.


  • Registered Users Posts: 470 ✭✭catrat12


    Dublin mountains likely to see any snow today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,918 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    catrat12 wrote: »
    Dublin mountains likely to see any snow today

    A couple of centimetres through the afternoon above around 250 - 300 meters probable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,104 ✭✭✭Trigger Happy


    catrat12 wrote: »
    Dublin mountains likely to see any snow today

    It looks like something might be happening up there now. View from Blackrock just now.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,110 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


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    East Clare.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭redsteveireland


    catrat12 wrote: »
    Dublin mountains likely to see any snow today

    I couldn't tell if that was a question or a statement.
    Icey rain throughout the morning here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 470 ✭✭catrat12


    Snowing in Glencullen now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,460 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    cold miserable rain in North Dublin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Aside from a few shaded areas, the Snow was all gone by 9 this morning. It doesn't feel as cold as i expected it to be with this breeze.

    Bitterly, shockingly cold out here . Maybe just me as I get days like this when I cannot get warm...
    Now if I had a thermometer etc... ... ;) lol... Certainly far less snow atop now.

    Amending re cold. I just went round the north facing back so I could report accurately (!) had to fight the gale to get there and the ocean is a cauldron. Dramatic..And bitter


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭circadian


    Was gonna take the kids out but that rain has turned it from tolerable to unbearable.

    Fire on. Stay warm everyone.

    That was some frost this morning too.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,157 Mod ✭✭✭✭DOCARCH


    catrat12 wrote: »
    Snowing in Glencullen now

    Was about to suggest snow in Dublin/Wicklow mountains, as there is sleety rain now in Dublin 16.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭Billcarson


    4c cold rain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,484 ✭✭✭Macy0161


    Wintry mix here at Roundwood village level, but predominantly snow when I was just caught in it! I can't see Scarr at the moment because of the precip, but expect it to be white.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 973 ✭✭✭mallards


    Snowing near the Wicklow gap for the last hour or more. Not sticking though yet. I'm about 270m. Mountain tops have been white since yesterday from about 500m and higher.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Snow sticking around Sally Gap. Roads quite icy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭redsteveireland


    sryanbruen wrote: »
    Snow sticking around Sally Gap. Roads quite icy.

    Great shots of the white gold. Be careful up there. Not jealous at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,965 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Only a few bits of light rain so far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Sleety rain on the hills of Kilkenny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,039 ✭✭✭redsteveireland


    One would have to be concerned at the possibility of snow when its raining in Scotland. Just melted snow falling here.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    One would have to be concerned at the possibility of snow when its raining in Scotland. Just melted snow falling here.

    many parts of eastern England had a decent covering this morning, several cm's in places. Scotland had snow last night and thundersnow in Edinburgh, seems to be just rain/sleet there now tho.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    The gale changed from NW to a more directly North and with added power. Getting more serious out here. The Advent Gale. Stronger than many named gales.

    I felt and heard the change. Things rattling in a whole other way. Lights are flickering too. They were wise to build gable end on to the ocean when the dwelling faced north. It is by far the most damaging.

    And that has settled more again.

    Reading the met ie page as darkness falls, makes for wondering what we will find at dawn tomorrow..


    west mayo offshore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,325 ✭✭✭highdef


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Reading the met ie page as darkness falls, makes for wondering what we will find at dawn tomorrow.
    Wet ground and certainly not snow unless you're fairly high up a mountain.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,172 ✭✭✭screamer


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Sleety rain on the hills of Kilkenny.

    indeed. might get a small dust of bin sprinkles overnight, never know


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Bitter here near Tralee, 7.4C but with the blustery wind getting a windchill reading of 2.5C, it would cut ya!!

    Numerous dark showers of rain, hail and sleet today but good bright spells also, Slieve Mish snowline down to about 560mm this morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,696 ✭✭✭Pretzill


    Anyone else experiencing far worse wind than forecast - our shed roof is doing one, one sheet of corrugated iron at a time? We are miles from the coast - Sligo 90m asl


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,588 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Sea surface temperatures showing how the Irish Sea is likely to warm any onshore flow rather substantially, colder pockets in North Sea allowed for similar setup to produce some settling snow in northern parts of East Anglia as well as on higher ground south of London.

    http://www.meteociel.fr/observations-meteo/temperature-de-la-mer.php?region=uk

    Recent reports of gusts to 109 km/hr at Malin Head and 95 at Donegal airport, similar Belmullet and Valentia.

    Low has moved up the east coast of England to near Newcastle and will now head west and southwest across Pennines into north Wales, central pressure already a bit below 970 mbs.

    That Euro chart from 8-9 days ago showing a hurricane over the Irish Sea wasn't all that far off considering what other guidance was then showing. It was a 950 mb monster with 140 km/hr winds but still, just somewhat overdone (as well as no hint of its taking a cyclonic loop south, it was supposed to be moving into north Leinster after map time -- think it was a depiction for tomorrow night also, so a bit late on the timing).

    Your recent snow pictures look pretty similar to what I've been seeing here for the past 2-3 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,970 ✭✭✭Storm 10


    Terrible day in Galway today very cold with strong wind and rain


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,588 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Pretzill wrote: »
    Anyone else experiencing far worse wind than forecast - our shed roof is doing one, one sheet of corrugated iron at a time? We are miles from the coast - Sligo 90m asl

    I don't recall a northerly wind this strong in recent years, it would be a different exposure to strong winds for most as compared to typical windy weather.

    Malin Head gusting to 111 km/hr last hour.

    There could be some surprisingly strong gusts for the Wicklow coast later when the low gets a bit closer and the gradient over the Irish Sea tightens up. Direction will be NNE.

    A rough night ahead for many.

    Dead calm here with freezing fog slowly lifting, rather odd to be thinking about a windstorm when there is zero air movement outside your house.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,168 ✭✭✭Rebelbrowser


    MT, I've just posted in other threads about signals for an epic christmas period easterly appearing now on the (coughs) CFS. Do you see any signals at all that might support that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,460 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Gone to the dogs altogether in north Dublin. Cold rain with a hard wind.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,421 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    I misjudged the wind direction to our house and we lost our trampoline.

    Thankfully it only went into the neighbours garden but still it jumped a 10 foot wall to get in there. It's secure now and we'll move it back home tomorrow lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,037 ✭✭✭circadian


    I don't recall a northerly wind this strong in recent years, it would be a different exposure to strong winds for most as compared to typical windy weather.

    Malin Head gusting to 111 km/hr last hour.

    There could be some surprisingly strong gusts for the Wicklow coast later when the low gets a bit closer and the gradient over the Irish Sea tightens up. Direction will be NNE.

    A rough night ahead for many.

    Dead calm here with freezing fog slowly lifting, rather odd to be thinking about a windstorm when there is zero air movement outside your house.

    If I remember correctly you're in the Interior. I always enjoyed the winter trips up into the Okanagan, a much drier cold compared to the damp muck often found in Vancouver/lower mainland, which was an improvement over the regular weather I experienced growing up in Derry.

    Moving to Canada and getting warmer winters. Whoda thunkit?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    I don't recall a northerly wind this strong in recent years, it would be a different exposure to strong winds for most as compared to typical windy weather.

    .
    Fairly sure we had a very similar set up that brought stronger winds about 2 or 3 winters ago. Certainly, the winds were stronger here that time than from this (it's more breezy than what you would call 'windy' here.)

    New Moon



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,526 ✭✭✭Hooter23


    The snow has arrived in Galway...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,918 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    MT, I've just posted in other threads about signals for an epic christmas period easterly appearing now on the (coughs) CFS. Do you see any signals at all that might support that?

    The only signal I see out my window is this one.

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    Not sure if connected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,207 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    The only signal I see out my window is this one.

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    Not sure if connected.

    Your funny


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


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    Mild sector behind the occlusion arrived here at 6pm. Getting close to +7c in South Laois now with a persistent WNW breeze that gusted 37mph earlier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,588 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    MT, I've just posted in other threads about signals for an epic christmas period easterly appearing now on the (coughs) CFS. Do you see any signals at all that might support that?

    There's blocking high pressure appearing near the end of the GFS run (20th) but it's over Britain and Ireland, so easterly would be further south into parts of southern France and Iberia.

    I think in general there will be alternating zonal and blocked intervals for much of the winter with best chances of a good wintry spell coming later, after mid-January and into February.

    It's not a closed case against that CFS scenario working out by any means, a blocking pattern at 16 days can certainly evolve in terms of location and overall shape, a few days ago the GFS was showing the first stages of what you're describing around day 16 (which would now be around day 9-10) but that was pulled back and out of view in later model runs.

    The jet stream around the hemisphere seems a bit prone to buckling (favoring blocking) and for this time of year it seems a bit sluggish, all good signs for long-range prospects. Another factor that I think is positive would be the rapid momentum of the freeze-up across the western arctic including Hudson Bay, momentum is a good sign as it tends to be a conservative feature. This could favor development of a blocking high near Greenland over time.

    This current episode is also a good thing because seasonal patterns tend to repeat at intervals, and next time we get something like this, with colder seas and more potent arctic air masses, it could be quite wintry (at lower elevations too).

    It has certainly locked into winter earlier than some years hereabouts, we have had snow cover and freezing temperatures more or less continuously since about the 10th of November. Under a mild upper inversion lid and clear skies, getting a lot of ice fog as a result, with some clear intervals mainly around early afternoons.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,252 ✭✭✭joeysoap


    Much more windy in Dundalk earlier tonight than some of the red warnings we got previously. Probably peaked 8- 9 -10 pm


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I don't recall a northerly wind this strong in recent years, it would be a different exposure to strong winds for most as compared to typical windy weather.

    Malin Head gusting to 111 km/hr last hour.

    There could be some surprisingly strong gusts for the Wicklow coast later when the low gets a bit closer and the gradient over the Irish Sea tightens up. Direction will be NNE.

    A rough night ahead for many.

    Dead calm here with freezing fog slowly lifting, rather odd to be thinking about a windstorm when there is zero air movement outside your house.

    Indeed yes..... The north wind is a whole different matter. It has been loud and roofshaking and still hours to go.

    It was so odd literally hearing it change to full on north.

    Quite distinctive, and all the safe things outside got... rearranged

    The cold is intense. Up to refill hwb and gather the cats. Wish I had a thermometer - but maybe better not knowing ;)

    met ie say the winds will ease Saturday afternoon. But we are all safe and all is well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,588 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    Yes it should slowly moderate now, the low is getting a bit weaker all the time as it now heads south back to the Channel and into France where it will die out entirely on Saturday night.

    The next system coming in from the Atlantic late Monday looks fairly weak but will spread a bit of sleety rain or mixed precip into some parts of the west and inland south, especially at elevation, not a big deal though. That one will pass south of the Munster coast and into the Channel also, then into the North Sea, but always rather weak, and then it will try to edge back west like this weekend low has done, only as almost a ghost of a low, and it will just get scooped up by the returning Atlantic frontal waves.

    None of those first few Atlantic systems appear very strong either, somewhat more vigorous about ten days from now with potential for some southwest gales developing but we're heading into a rather quiet spell of weather beyond today's final phase of the proceedings.


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