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Commuting weather diary

  • 18-11-2013 10:46am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭


    There is a perception that the number of rainy days in Galway is extremely high, and that weather is a natural and immutable deterrent to walking or cycling in the city.

    Having lived here for most of my life, I disagree. My own perception is that while rain is clearly a feature of Galway life throughout the year, it is still possible to walk or cycle a reasonable distance to work or school without being soaked on a regular or frequent basis.

    This is feasible with appropriate waterproof gear and where commuting distance is short, eg 4 km or less for cycling, or up to 2 km for walking.

    Here's the weather report from my short commute this morning. Feel free to add your own. It would be good if we can keep this going for a decent length of time, in order to build up a picture of what walking and cycling is really like in terms of weather.

    Trip: morning school run.
    Distance: 3 km.
    Mode: cycle.
    Weather: sunny, no rain.
    Comment: pleasant cycle, weather-wise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Trip: Work Commutte @ 14h15
    Distance: 11 km.
    Mode: Cycle.
    Weather: Light rain shower @ start for first 3/4km, then dry and sunnyfor rest of the trip.
    Comment: Pleasant cycle in cool conditions, Rain jacket was dry by the time I got to work.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Trip: afternoon school run, plus shopping in Salthill and Knocknacarra.
    Distance: 7 km.
    Mode: car.
    Weather: heavy shower while we were indoors in Salthill, otherwise no rain.

    Correction: more like 7 km. Forgot to include one leg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,393 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    In the comments or weather, if significant, could you maybe note temp or rain/wind direction?

    I have no problem walking in rain, or even heavier rain. What I've noticed about Galway though is that sideways rain, combined with a wind and low temp can make it quite unpleasant if you are going somewhere that you can't dry off or shower.
    I have lived in places where it rains more, but again it is the type and frequency of the weather that I think gets to people.
    Otherwise I love the weather. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    Here's the weather report from my short commute this morning.

    Trip: morning school run.
    Distance: 3 km.
    Mode: cycle.
    Weather: sunny, no rain.
    Comment: pleasant cycle, weather-wise.


    Correction: 6 km round trip. I forgot to include my return journey. No rain on the way home either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    inisboffin wrote: »
    In the comments or weather, if significant, could you maybe note temp or rain/wind direction?

    I have no problem walking in rain, or even heavier rain. What I've noticed about Galway though is that sideways rain, combined with a wind and low temp can make it quite unpleasant if you are going somewhere that you can't dry off or shower.

    I have lived in places where it rains more, but again it is the type and frequency of the weather that I think gets to people.

    Otherwise I love the weather. :)


    We ought to have forty words for rain in Irish.

    My least favourite, if that's the appropriate term, is the heavy drizzle that soaks in everywhere.

    Hailstones, particularly a severe shower, I find oddly exhilarating.

    No temperature gauge on the bike so I'll be using terms such as "not hot". :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭joeKel73


    Trip: Commute to work @ 07:35
    Distance: 2km Walk + full 409 bus route.
    Mode: Walk + Bus
    Weather: Frosty cold but sunny and dry.
    Comment: Opted for the bus instead of bike today as it was fairly icy this morning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    Iwannahurl wrote: »

    No temperature gauge on the bike so I'll be using terms such as "not hot". :)

    If you've a smartphone, check the weather app or use one of the numerous websites that will tell the area temperature and general wind direction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭joeKel73


    antoobrien wrote: »
    If you've a smartphone, check the weather app or use one of the numerous websites that will tell the area temperature and general wind direction.

    microphone.jpg

    You'll soon be aware of wind direction if you're cycling anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    J o e wrote: »
    microphone.jpg

    You'll soon be aware of wind direction if you're cycling anyway.

    I've still always had to look at a weather map to know if its W, SW, NWN etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    J o e wrote: »
    You'll soon be aware of wind direction if you're cycling anyway.



    As a general rule, in Galway the direction of the wind is always towards the cyclist's face. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Trip: morning school run.
    Distance: 6 km round trip.
    Mode: bicycle.
    Weather: bright, frosty.
    Comment: Senior Infant cyclist had one small skid due to slightly excessive speed and incorrect braking technique. My thumbs were cold. Beautiful light through the late autumn trees.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭McTigs


    I gotta agree that it doesn't rain as much as is made out.... i cycle commute every day and have done since i started secondary school 25 years ago and i rarely get wet and only occasionally have to wear wet gear.

    I'm out of action at the minute due to broken collarbone after getting passenger doored (first accident in those 25 years), so my wife has been dropping me to work but i'll join in the thread once i'm mobile again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Ouch. Get well soon.

    By the way, how long does it usually take to recover from a broken collar bone, and how much does it affect your mobility and ability to work?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭McTigs


    I'm right handed and it's my right collarbone so it is a massive pain in the arse.

    I have an office job and i was back to work after a few days.... tapping away with my left. Takes about six week to heal normally but you should avoid contact sport or heavy lifting for a while after that. I'm on week 4 and it's feeling much better today but it was well painful for the first few weeks, showering, taking on and off clothes etc... problem is you can't immobilise it, just gotta try keep it out of harms way and not strain it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    McTigs wrote: »
    it's my right collarbone so it is a massive pain in the arse.


    :)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVoPG9HtYF8


  • Registered Users Posts: 235 ✭✭sonandheir


    I cycle around Galway and have a daily commute of knocknacarra to parkmore and have to agree weather isn't as bad as people make out. Real killer is wind, commute home is lough atalia through salthill.

    A good site I use regularly is nuig weather station.

    http://weather.nuigalway.ie/12HourTrends.php

    Very handy to know if it's been lashing rain all night or been sub zero for several hours as it's hard to gauge weather on pitch black winter mornings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Thanks. Very useful and interesting website.

    Extract:

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    sonandheir wrote: »
    I cycle around Galway and have a daily commute of knocknacarra to parkmore and have to agree weather isn't as bad as people make out. Real killer is wind, commute home is lough atalia through salthill.


    I used to do the same commute. It was of course no fun when the weather was bad, and the main satisfaction on the home run was beating the wind and rain.

    Approaching Salthill you think the wind is bad enough, and then you reach the bend in front of Western House...


    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭Cleahaigh


    Met Eireann has over a century of data, for those who are interested. According to them
    The average number of wet days (days 1mm or more of rain) ranges from about 150 days a year along the east and south east coasts, to about 225 days a year in parts of the west.
    Which is a fair bit.

    What a couple of hardened cycle-commuters might regard as a minor inconvenience would tend to be off putting to various degrees for most people who might otherwise be tempted to cycle, or cycle more often. That's just the way it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 589 ✭✭✭ArraMusha


    Trip: Work Commute
    Distance: 34 km (round trip)
    Mode: Cycle
    Weather: Morning: Cold for first 5km, dry. Evening: Cold and dark, dry.
    Comment: I need more high intensity Led front lights.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Cleahaigh wrote: »
    What a couple of hardened cycle-commuters might regard as a minor inconvenience would tend to be off putting to various degrees for most people who might otherwise be tempted to cycle, or cycle more often. That's just the way it is.


    My child has cycled his own bike 3 km to Senior Infants pretty much every school day since the start of term.

    Hardened cycle commuter? At age 6?

    The words "protest", "too" and "much" spring to mind.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭gordongekko


    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    My child has cycled his own bike 3 km to Senior Infants pretty much every school day since the start of term.

    Hardened cycle commuter? At age 6?

    The words "protest", "too" and "much" spring to mind.

    that's one out of how many 6 yr olds in school? The words "protest", "too" and "much" spring to mind


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    that's one out of how many 6 yr olds in school? The words "protest", "too" and "much" spring to mind



    Your point being..?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Trip: morning school run.
    Distance: 6 km round trip.
    Mode: bicycle.
    Weather: A couple of showers, and a bit of wind. Not very cold, according to thumb gauge.
    Comment: Senior Infant looked out the window just before departure and said "it's raining, so I'm not cycling." It was indeed raining at that moment so I went into faff mode and put on all my rain gear etc. I cycled the 3 km to school, and the rain turned out to be a fairly light shower. Barely enough to wet my raincoat and sprinkle my (Gore-Tex lined) boots. Another light shower near home on the way back. No need to hang up raingear to drip dry.
    Note to self: going to have to devise strategy for persuading Senior Infant not to be put off cycling to school by seeing a bit of rain. All-in-one waterproofs perhaps?


  • Posts: 24,714 [Deleted User]


    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    My child has cycled his own bike 3 km to Senior Infants pretty much every school day since the start of term.

    Hardened cycle commuter? At age 6?

    The words "protest", "too" and "much" spring to mind.

    I pity your poor kid, I wouldn't cycle 3km myself at 28 never mind when I was 6.

    He must feel very hard done by seeing all his friends hop out of nice warm cars while he has to slog away hail rain and shine on a bike at only 6 years old just because you have some silly anti-car nonsense going on in your head.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    I pity your poor kid, I wouldn't cycle 3km in the morning myself at 28 never mind when I was 6.

    It would seem that the 6 year old has more sense than the parent. I wouldn't have put a dog out in the rain that was in Newcastle/Dangan around 8.00-8.15.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    I pity your poor kid, I wouldn't cycle 3km myself at 28 never mind when I was 6.

    Your so soft.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    I pity your poor kid, I wouldn't cycle 3km in the morning myself at 28 never mind when I was 6.

    He must feel very hard done by seeing all his friends hop out of nice warm cars while he has to slog away hail rain and shine on a bike at only 6 years old just because you have some silly anti-car nonsense going on in your head.

    antoobrien wrote: »
    It would seem that the 6 year old has more sense than the parent. I wouldn't have put a dog out in the rain that was in Newcastle/Dangan around 8.00-8.15.



    Nice ones. Keep 'em coming. :)

    Actually we didn't see anyone hopping out of their cars, because we got there before them. A neighbour left before us, travelling by car, and we passed them out, twice. In fact Senior Infant loves to pass out the lines of stationary or slow-moving cars every morning. Kids are warmer after cycling too, as their circulation is flowing far better after getting some exercise on the way to school.

    EDIT: OK, maybe don't keep 'em coming. Just saw Mod note.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Trip: Work Commutte @ 09h00
    Distance: 11 km.
    Time taken: 30 minutes
    Mode: Cycle.
    Weather: Dry. Northwest wind - had no bearing on time though
    Comment: Pleasant cycle in cool conditions. Road was wet, fallen leaves are not swept often in Galway City


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    I pity your poor kid, I wouldn't cycle 3km myself at 28 never mind when I was 6.
    He must feel very hard done by seeing all his friends hop out of nice warm cars while he has to slog away hail rain and shine on a bike at only 6 years old just because you have some silly anti-car nonsense going on in your head.
    That is uncalled for.


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 7,411 Mod ✭✭✭✭pleasant Co.


    Lets stick to the point of this thread, if you're not contributing to the diary - get out. Your personal feelings are irrelevant information.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭zarquon


    My commute is 14k and although i have cycled it on several occasions, i dare not do it during winter or if the clouds look ominous so today it was most certainly by car


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Trip: Work Commutte @ 09h00
    Distance: 11 km.
    Time taken: 30 minutes
    Mode: Cycle.
    Weather: Dry. Northwest wind - had no bearing on time though
    Comment: Pleasant cycle in cool conditions. Road was wet, fallen leaves are not swept often in Galway City


    That's very interesting. Dry for your whole 11 km commute? That's another thing about Galway weather, perhaps: it's very local. Maybe some else commuting the same distance or taking the same length of time might have a very different experience? However, that local variability works both ways, presumably. It also means that it might be raining at the origin of a journey but perfectly fine along the way. The key point is: rain is not constant and there is not necessarily a high probability of a soaking on any one trip. I'm working on that last one, by the way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    zarquon wrote: »
    My commute is 14k and although i have cycled it on several occasions, i dare not do it during winter or if the clouds look ominous so today it was most certainly by car


    The longer the commute the greater the 'risk exposure' in terms of soaking potential.

    My main focus is on shorter trips. 47% of the city's population live 4 km or less from their place of work or education.

    By the way, lest there be any doubt, Senior Infant did not cycle today. I did all the "slogging". :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭zarquon


    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    The longer the commute the greater the 'risk exposure' in terms of soaking potential.

    My main focus is on shorter trips. 47% of the city's population live 4 km or less from their place of work or education.

    I agree with you there. TBH if my commute was 3 or 4K i would definitely cycle most of the time rather than sit in traffic unless it was pelting down or ice on the road.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    That's very interesting. Dry for your whole 11 km commute? That's another thing about Galway weather, perhaps: it's very local. Maybe some else commuting the same distance or taking the same length of time might have a very different experience? However, that local variability works both ways, presumably. It also means that it might be raining at the origin of a journey but perfectly fine along the way. The key point is: rain is not constant and there is not necessarily a high probability of a soaking on any one trip. I'm working on that last one, by the way.

    True it can be local. Especially in the summer. Some days when it is raining at my homeplace(Rahoon) it can be bone dry at my workplace(Parkmore). Looking at the met.ie rainfall radar today. Depending on what time you set off this morning one could have avoided rain. It's all about timing or luck I guess.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Depending on what time you set off this morning one could have avoided rain. It's all about timing or luck I guess.


    True that. It's possible for individuals to adapt their behaviour or adjust their attitude in relation to the weather. Timing and random factors will be highly variable at the individual level, but at the population level (that 47% of Galway residents living 4 km or less from work or education) I reckon there's a difference between perception and meteorological reality.

    Sonandheir posted this link earlier:
    sonandheir wrote: »
    A good site I use regularly is nuig weather station.

    http://weather.nuigalway.ie/12HourTrends.php

    It's not often I use the word "cool", but that website has a really cool feature, which is their Live Weather Data 'dashboard'. While NUI Galway's weather station is not going to match everyone's experience on any given day, it'll give a reliable statistical picture over a longer period, say 1-3 years.

    281164.jpg


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 31,117 ✭✭✭✭snubbleste


    Meh shmeh
    http://www.galwaycityweather.com/index.htm
    It even has a replay of the last 24h for weather nerds, from a webcam no less
    0jep4Bqs.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Good one.

    I like the Rainfall Rate (mm/hr) and Last Rainfall stats.

    I guess that makes me a weather nerd... :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭McTigs


    I pity your poor kid, I wouldn't cycle 3km myself at 28 never mind when I was 6.

    He must feel very hard done by seeing all his friends hop out of nice warm cars while he has to slog away hail rain and shine on a bike at only 6 years old just because you have some silly anti-car nonsense going on in your head.
    I pity the kids whose parents couldn't be bothered teaching a kid good cycling skills at such a young age and also that a bit of weather is nothing to be scared of.

    Most kids are made of sugar these days, such a shame


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Had to drive a total of 25 km or more in seven stages over and back across the city this afternoon, between 13:30 and 17:00. One short sharp shower that I can recall in that time, otherwise the windscreen wipers had little to work on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭WallyGUFC


    Trip: College - way home - 7pm
    Distance: 12km
    Time taken: 15 minutes
    Mode: Car.
    Weather: Dry. Gusty wind, had no effect on driving.
    Comment: Pleasant drive. Heater working very well. Person in front from Fleming's junction drove as if drunk. Very comfortable commute, no delays, lights working beautifully.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,868 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    In Oranmore there has only been one dry day in the last 31

    www.oranmoreweather.com

    Seven Worlds will Collide



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    WallyGUFC wrote: »
    Trip: College - way home - 7pm
    Distance: 12km
    Time taken: 15 minutes
    Mode: Car.
    Weather: Dry. Gusty wind, had no effect on driving.
    Comment: Pleasant drive. Heater working very well. Person in front from Fleming's junction drove as if drunk. Very comfortable commute, no delays, lights working beautifully.


    Here's an unauthorised (though true and accurate in some respects) entry for one of my neighbours, just today:

    Trip: taking child to creche.
    Distance: 800 metres round trip (400 metres there, 400 metres back home).
    Time taken: 5 minutes approximately, including walking child from footpath to door.
    Mode: car.
    Weather: spots of rain.
    Comment: very easy drive. Only challenges were reversing out of driveway, wondering whether to bother going into 4th gear, and walking all of 20 metres from the car to the door of the creche (and back to the car again! :eek:).


    In Oranmore there has only been one dry day in the last 31


    What's a "dry day"?

    If it's a day when there was no rain at all, then what of it? Rainfall is recorded over a 24-hour period, which means that, for example, several heavy showers can bring up the daily total rainfall considerably. That is no indicator of the risk of being rained on during a short commute of 4 km or less.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭WallyGUFC


    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    Here's an unauthorised (though true and accurate in some respects) entry for one of my neighbours, just today:

    Trip: taking child to creche.
    Distance: 800 metres round trip (400 metres there, 400 metres back home).
    Time taken: 5 minutes approximately, including walking child from footpath to door.
    Mode: car.
    Weather: spots of rain.
    Comment: very easy drive. Only challenges were reversing out of driveway, wondering whether to bother going into 4th gear, and walking all of 20 metres from the car to the door of the creche (and back to the car again! :eek:).

    I agree 100% with you that a situation like this is absolutely ridiculous. 800 metres is absolutely nothing, and a complete waste of fuel. But for me, a 12km cycle every day to and from college is unfeasible, no matter what the weather.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 225 ✭✭Patrickheg


    This is a real "love in" for the usual anti car brigade.

    Galway city forum is gone to hell lately. Seriously, a huge percentage of the threads on here are DOMINATED by these same 2 or 3 individuals with the exact same agenda of anti cars(exchanging thanks with each other like it's going out of fashion) Take this one for example, started out on galways weather and it could have been a decent thread but we have the usual suspects dominating it with their massaged statistics on how lazy everyone else is and how great and superior they are. The usual RAMMING statistics which suit them down other peoples throats.

    These types of threads are all almost identical, a large few users contribute at the beginning then give up as the thread is hijacked and the few usual suspects are left flogging their fairy theories of everyone should cycle 15ks to work each day and anyone who drops their kid to school is evil.

    I follow a few other regional forums on boards and none of these are like this where the same 2 or 3 posters are allowed to cause argument time after time. Allowing this to continue is a joke

    A question for the mods. Any way to design a system where a thread can be marked as a "love in" so the rest of us can ignore these types of threads which have been hijacked, something like when bargain alerts mark a thread as "Expired"?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Trip: school run, followed by commute to work.
    Distance: total of 7 km one way. Journey home after work will be 3.5 km.
    Mode: cycle.
    Weather: dry and cold. Temperature 4-5 deg, no rain since midnight.
    Comment: IWH-OH did the school run today. Cycles to work year-round, with very rare exceptions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Patrickheg wrote: »
    ...
    I just stumbled upon this post. If you want mod attention you need to send a PM or a report, we can't read every single post and it may get overlooked.
    Post your post in Feedback please, let's keep this thread about commuting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭WallyGUFC


    Trip: Home - college. 8.05am
    Distance: 12km
    Time taken: 25 minutes
    Mode: Car.
    Weather: Dry. Breezy. Very cold, wind chill a big factor.
    Comment: Pleasant drive. Heater took a bit longer to work properly. Might have to get it looked at. Lights working perfectly. Nice to have the radio while stuck in the occasional lines of moving traffic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,156 ✭✭✭Iwannahurl


    Iwannahurl wrote: »
    Trip: school run, followed by commute to work.
    Distance: total of 7 km one way. Journey home after work will be 3.5 km.
    Mode: cycle.
    Weather: dry and cold. Temperature 4-5 deg, no rain since midnight.
    Comment: IWH-OH did the school run today. Cycles to work year-round, with very rare exceptions.



    Slight correction: IWH-OH did 7 km commute. Junior Infant did the usual 3 km, lights flashing for an extra bit of glitter and glory.

    Beautiful early winter weather at the moment: cold and dry. Set to continue for the next few days, I believe. You wouldn't mind the cold as long as it's dry...:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,002 ✭✭✭what_traffic


    Trip: Work Commutte @ 11h00
    Distance: 11 km.
    Time taken: 30 minutes
    Mode: Cycle.
    Weather: Dry, Sunny and cold. Northwest wind (Headwind for commutte).
    Comment: Pleasant cycle. Road dry. Light car traffic. Sunglasses needed


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