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Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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    #482
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,653 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Stheno wrote: »
    I found this a strange one, travel for essential purposes includes to visit a grave

    https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1318291031591473152?s=20

    I understand in a way if someone has just lost a loved one etc but surely very open to abuse?


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    #483
    political analyst
    Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭political analyst


    seamus wrote: »
    I'm glad someone found a way to make all this Y2K talk ontopic :D

    The surge didn't happen because we locked down.

    What way does NPHET have of knowing how many Covid cases there would be tomorrow or next week or at any point in the future?


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    #484
    Antares35
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    Nothing left in Smyths apparently. People are so predictable.


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    #485
    gmisk
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    political analyst wrote: »
    Given that, during the first lockdown, the predicted surge of Covid cases in hospital didn't materialise, how could the lockdown be regarded as proportionate?
    The predicted surge didn't materialise?
    Were there not almost 900 people in hospital with covid at a point in April? I would call that materialising.


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    #486
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    growleaves wrote: »
    Where can I look at the list of essential services does anyone know?
    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/c9158-essential-services/


    Enjoy


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    #487
    perrito caliente
    Closed Accounts Posts: 262 ✭✭perrito caliente


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    Whatever floats your boat




    She has a smokin' body, that's just an ojective fact.


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    #488
    growleaves
    Registered Users Posts: 7,719 ✭✭✭growleaves


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/c9158-essential-services/


    Enjoy


    Thank you.


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    #489
    political analyst
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    gmisk wrote: »
    The predicted surge didn't materialise?
    Were there not almost 900 people in hospital with covid at a point in April? I would call that materialising.

    Doesn't look like an astronomically high number for a country of around 5 million people.


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    #490
    mcburns07
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    SCOOP 64 wrote: »
    I think employers attitude is different this time to this lockdown, I was temporarily off from April to July last time, this morning told we are not closing, we are far from essential , heard same from other firms in out business patk

    What does the business do?


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    #491
    Stheno
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    The HorsesMouth wrote: »
    How do you find this strange?
    Have you lost anyone close to you lately?
    Eod100 wrote: »
    I understand in a way if someone has just lost a loved one etc but surely very open to abuse?

    What EOD said, very open to abuse imo, just that twitter thread I linked has a lot of replies referencing it.

    So if I live in Dublin and my parents are buried in Cork, the police can't stop/fine me travelling all that way given that I'm going to visit their grave??


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    #492
    Eod100
    Registered Users Posts: 11,653 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Wonder how/whether this will work in practice tbh.

    ''Under the new plans, gardaí can call to a door and break up a house party but they may not enter the home. Instead they will ask the owner to break up the party and if they refuse to do so they will be fined under a fixed charge notice.''

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/level-5-latest-garda%C3%AD-to-be-given-new-powers-to-fine-people-for-holding-house-parties-1.4385990


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    #493
    [Deleted User]
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    Antares35 wrote: »
    Nothing left in Smyths apparently. People are so predictable.

    And half of them probably got the wrong thing, such was the panic. Wife called in to Smyths today and grabbed a catalogue so we can do click and collect in our own time


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    #494
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    political analyst wrote: »
    What way does NPHET have of knowing how many Covid cases there would be tomorrow or next week or at any point in the future?
    Statistics, probablity and modelling.

    You already know the answer to this question, so I'm not sure where you're going with this.


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    #495
    niallo27
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    gmisk wrote: »
    The predicted surge didn't materialise?
    Were there not almost 900 people in hospital with covid at a point in April? I would call that materialising.

    Yes and 160 in icu but some how we are only 2 weeks away from collapsing this time around.


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    #496
    spookwoman
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    No worries. They seem to be slacking with them lately, they don't even upload the Sunday reports on Sunday anymore. Sometimes Saturday isn't uploaded either.

    18th link deleted but the pdf is still on the page in the background if you look at the cached page. 19th also deleted but cant find file

    https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/news/newsfeatures/covid19-updates/covid-19-daily-operations-update-2000-18-october-2020.pdf


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    #497
    Stheno
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Wonder how/whether this will work in practice tbh.

    ''Under the new plans, gardaí can call to a door and break up a house party but they may not enter the home. Instead they will ask the owner to break up the party and if they refuse to do so they will be fined under a fixed charge notice.''

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/level-5-latest-garda%C3%AD-to-be-given-new-powers-to-fine-people-for-holding-house-parties-1.4385990

    Good to see some level of enforcement tbh


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    #498
    shinzon
    Registered Users Posts: 5,458 ✭✭✭shinzon


    political analyst wrote: »
    What way does NPHET have of knowing how many Covid cases there would be tomorrow or next week or at any point in the future?

    https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/dc5711-irish-epidemiology-modelling-advisory-group-to-nphet-technical-notes/

    Been somewhat accurate so far


    Shin


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    #499
    gmisk
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    political analyst wrote: »
    Doesn't look like an astronomically high number for a country of around 5 million people.
    It is a really high number when you take into account how few beds we have per head of population (I think 4th worst in the EU).
    If we hit numbers like that with seasonal flu etc now in the coming months we will be in trouble imo.


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    #500
    Sakana
    Registered Users Posts: 148 ✭✭Sakana


    xabi wrote: »
    What happens between 23:29 and 00:00?

    The witching half-hour.


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    #501
    Plumbthedepths
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    Stheno wrote: »
    Good to see some level of enforcement tbh

    Also interesting to see the first U turn on restrictions.


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    #502
    JimToken
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    Antares35 wrote: »
    Nothing left in Smyths apparently. People are so predictable.

    One across the road from the dail

    Always sold out of crayons


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    #503
    lawred2
    Registered Users Posts: 24,292 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    CoronaBlocker wrote: »
    Sure RTE is no better. Had Drivetime on there yesterday and had to check to see if I was actually on Newstalk. Clare Byrne has more snark in her than David McCullagh.

    She's one of the better one really but I think she tries a bit too hard sometimes to be hard hitting...


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    #504
    Blondini
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    Hospital numbers creeping up.

    315 in hospital
    34 in ICU


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    #505
    political analyst
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    seamus wrote: »
    Statistics, probablity and modelling.

    You already know the answer to this question, so I'm not sure where you're going with this.

    But probability and modelling might be wrong because NPHET cannot be certain of how many cases there will be from one day to the next. If NPHET is wrong then the damage to the economy will be for nothing and then there'll be severe cutbacks to the health service, thus causing many more deaths than Covid ever could.


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    #506
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users Posts: 2,147 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Scotland - 15 deaths, 1456 new cases

    500 in Glasgow and Clyde.

    Their positivity rate has dropped from a high of 17.6% a few days ago to 11.4% today, but their testing system is falling over and it's hard to know what to believe. It was 6.4% yesterday.


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    #507
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    JimToken wrote: »
    One across the road from the dail

    Always sold out of crayons

    That'll be Simon and MM. Mad for the colouring those lads.


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    #508
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users Posts: 11,636 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Friend of mine just got her result back, 74 hours after being tested. Not sure if her sample was reanalysed or what, but negative anyway.


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    #509
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Eod100 wrote: »
    Wonder how/whether this will work in practice tbh.

    ''Under the new plans, gardaí can call to a door and break up a house party but they may not enter the home. Instead they will ask the owner to break up the party and if they refuse to do so they will be fined under a fixed charge notice.''

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/level-5-latest-garda%C3%AD-to-be-given-new-powers-to-fine-people-for-holding-house-parties-1.4385990
    The number of fines issued and enforced will probably end up being pretty small - some student answers the door and says they don't know who the homeowner is; there's feck all the Garda can do about that.

    But the threat alone should probably be sufficient, as well as the the fact that people will feel like something *can* be done. Twitching curtains are a pain in the hole, but they can have the effect of putting manners on people.


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    #510
    lawred2
    Registered Users Posts: 24,292 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    hmmm wrote: »
    I think you're underestimating the fragility of complex IT systems, particularly industrial control and financial systems, and the amount of testing which is required for even seemingly minor changes. Correct time is a huge deal for many companies.

    huge amount of bugs in software systems are time and time zone related


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    #511
    political analyst
    Registered Users Posts: 4,461 ✭✭✭political analyst


    gmisk wrote: »
    It is a really high number when you take into account how few beds we have per head of population (I think 4th worst in the EU).
    If we hit numbers like that with seasonal flu etc now in the coming months we will be in trouble imo.

    Stephen Donnelly told Claire Byrne last night that more ICU beds were put in place.


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