Eir urban FTTH

PixelTrawler · 09-03-2020 11:33am

fasterbetter wrote: »

I saw 3 KN guys checking the eircom manholes and making notes on a tablet earlier this week. This was in Castleknock off Auburn AV so I wonder does that mean they are coming this way with FTTH?

Probably yes. They ran fibre in Clonsilla in December in the estates for Eir

pg17 · 10-03-2020 5:52pm

On Shanowen Grove, Shanowen Road and Collins Avenue Extention in Santry today I noticed fibre coiled on most eir poles and a few DPs installed. Because I was driving, I was not able to look to see if fibre was connected to any of the houses.

KOR101 · 10-03-2020 7:07pm

Leaflet in Balbriggan from Eir.

Only offer is 1Gb/s at €55 per month for 24 months. €86 thereafter.

No installation fee.

Gonzo · 10-03-2020 11:40pm

KOR101 wrote: »

Leaflet in Balbriggan from Eir.

Only offer is 1Gb/s at €55 per month for 24 months. €86 thereafter.

No installation fee.

pity that offer wasn't around when I got FTTH, that's a really good price and it's on the website too. https://www.eir.ie/broadband/

notahappycamper · 11-03-2020 2:59pm

Waiting for it to be rolled out here in Dublin 3. Any way of knowing a timeframe apart from seeing KN vans in the area with the rolls of fibre?

Airwire: MartinL · 05-05-2020 4:39pm

We have updated the database for OpenEIR FTTC/FTTH today.

It can be found at https://www.airwire.ie/avail

AidenL · 05-05-2020 5:00pm

KOR101 wrote: »

Leaflet in Balbriggan from Eir.

Only offer is 1Gb/s at €55 per month for 24 months. €86 thereafter.

No installation fee.

That is a tempting price.

ClonNGB · 06-05-2020 8:32pm

Airwire: MartinL wrote: »

We have updated the database for OpenEIR FTTC/FTTH today.

It can be found at https://www.airwire.ie/avail

Very happy to see Clonakilty urban now available. I am currently with Vodafone but they wouldn't upgrade me, said only offering it to new customers, so I have ordered Eir's 24 month package. Good discount on the 1Gb package and no installation charge. Happy days.

BArra · 19-05-2020 1:17pm

Is there any update to planned roll out areas of Eirs Urban FTTH? ie. towns listed that are on the map to get it?

I'm in a town-area that was not listed on the provisional schedule they gave, yet i had a KN van outside my house doing survey works which the contractor said was for 'Eirs Urban rollout'

Sheep Shagger · 19-05-2020 5:31pm

At last it's available on our new estate in Dublin 18.

Signed up today so serving notice with Virgin who we were getting 220 speed.

Eir's gigabyte broadband is €55 a month for 24 months then €84pm

Add TV for a tenner per month for a year (then €20 a month)

Free home phone
Free apple TV
Free amazon prime
Free kids channels during COVID.

Something about a mobile deal of €9.99 all in too worth eir, will get details once we are connected.

Airwire: MartinL · 19-05-2020 11:13pm

We have updated the database for OpenEIR FTTC/FTTH today.

It can be found at https://www.airwire.ie/avail

Airwire: MartinL · 26-05-2020 6:36pm

We have updated the database for OpenEIR FTTC/FTTH today.

It can be found at https://www.airwire.ie/avail

Gonzo · 26-05-2020 9:34pm

I have to laugh, just checked Airwire's checker and after 7 years of the initial FTTC rollout, my line is passing for FTTC with 7 meg down and 1 meg up. Perhaps Eir have activated some extended reach. Somehow I think i'll just continue to stay with FTTH!

Marlow · 26-05-2020 10:25pm

Gonzo wrote: »

I have to laugh, just checked Airwire's checker and after 7 years of the initial FTTC rollout, my line is passing for FTTC with 7 meg down and 1 meg up. Perhaps Eir have activated some extended reach. Somehow I think i'll just continue to stay with FTTH!

Lines, which never have been enabled often are 7M. Even if you're under 100 Mbit/s from the cab. They need to be re-tested when they actually are build.

/M

Airwire: MartinL · 04-06-2020 11:38pm

We have updated the database for OpenEIR FTTC/FTTH today.

It can be found at https://www.airwire.ie/avail

Airwire: MartinL · 09-06-2020 11:01pm

We have updated the database for OpenEIR FTTC/FTTH today.

It can be found at https://www.airwire.ie/avail

Sheep Shagger · 10-06-2020 8:25am

Today's the day we get our 1GB broadband installed

I know we won't get that speed on a wireless connection but should be better than Virgin (we average about 215 with them).

bk · 10-06-2020 10:49am

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Today's the day we get our 1GB broadband installed

I know we won't get that speed on a wireless connection but should be better than Virgin (we average about 215 with them).

Over wireless I'd say you will get the same. 215 sounds like your limit on wifi, as Virgin normally really do get 250 over ethernet.

Sheep Shagger · 10-06-2020 1:21pm

bk wrote: »

Over wireless I'd say you will get the same. 215 sounds like your limit on wifi, as Virgin normally really do get 250 over ethernet.

Really, a quarter of the gig speed over wireless?

Anyway, KN Group just came to do the install onlybtobtell us the connection is not switched on, despite eir sales targeting us - the guy said this happens often.....will give them a shout.

Gonzo · 10-06-2020 1:43pm

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Today's the day we get our 1GB broadband installed

I know we won't get that speed on a wireless connection but should be better than Virgin (we average about 215 with them).

depends on what provider your getting as well as the modem you get will make a huge difference. Eir's modems are not great for wifi, I'm lucky to get more than 50 in most rooms, only close to the router I get over 100.

bk · 10-06-2020 2:37pm

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Really, a quarter of the gig speed over wireless?

Yes, 200ish would be quiet common for real world speeds for wifi.

If you have a laptop that support mu-mimo and multiple streams, then you could possibly get speeds of 400 to 500mb/s or perhaps even close to 750mb/s, but most people don't have such high speced laptops like this.

I doubt you will get anywhere near 1gb/s over wifi and probably not much more then you are currently getting.

Of course if you eventually upgrade your laptop and other devices, etc. and if you use ethernet where possible, you may be able to make better use of the FTTH.

Sheep Shagger · 10-06-2020 4:03pm

Dumb question, if eir ever get their act together and connect us...does having a google wifi boost what you get by much?

oscarBravo · 10-06-2020 5:50pm

I've never understood the obsession with the speed that can be achieved over wireless. I have literally no idea what speed my wireless devices can download from the internet, and I can't think of a single reason why I would care.

Sheep Shagger · 10-06-2020 6:16pm

oscarBravo wrote: »

I've never understood the obsession with the speed that can be achieved over wireless. I have literally no idea what speed my wireless devices can download from the internet, and I can't think of a single reason why I would care.

Increased WFH means we have two desktops that are not in the lounge (where the router is).

Agree dont really care about speeds on tablets and phones as long as it is decent but for work it means a lot.

oscarBravo · 10-06-2020 7:42pm

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Increased WFH means we have two desktops that are not in the lounge (where the router is).

Agree dont really care about speeds on tablets and phones as long as it is decent but for work it means a lot.

We have a server, two desktops, two laptops, a couple of tablets, a couple of smartphones, a smart TV, three security cameras, a bunch of home automation devices, two Nest displays and several Nest Minis...

Once they work smoothly (which they do) I don't care about speed. I don't run speed tests - I just don't care.

bk · 11-06-2020 12:24pm

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Dumb question, if eir ever get their act together and connect us...does having a google wifi boost what you get by much?

Probably not if you are limited by the max speed of your laptop. You might see some difference, but not significant.

Wireless systems like Google Wifi are more about getting connectivity in distant parts of your home where you normally get a weak or poor signal.

oscarBravo wrote: »

We have a server, two desktops, two laptops, a couple of tablets, a couple of smartphones, a smart TV, three security cameras, a bunch of home automation devices, two Nest displays and several Nest Minis...

Once they work smoothly (which they do) I don't care about speed. I don't run speed tests - I just don't care.

Well of course it depends on what you are doing. If you are working from home, then pulling and pushing large image files, etc. it can make a difference.

Family at home, watching multiple Disney+/Netflix 4k streams, each of which is about 30Mb/s, can add up to issues when you are working and trying to do Zoom calls, etc. Even though I've very good and fast wifi, I actually found it become less reliable when the family was home due to COVID19, connecting the laptop over ethernet sorted that.

Add to that multiple IP cameras stream 4k video over the wifi.

Doing backups to a NAS over wifi. It can all add up and start to impact on the wifi.

Of course the real question is, if you aren't interested in faster speeds, why someone would even bother with 1gig FTTH?

oscarBravo · 11-06-2020 1:57pm

bk wrote: »

...connecting the laptop over ethernet sorted that.

Bingo.

Add to that multiple IP cameras stream 4k video over the wifi.

Doing backups to a NAS over wifi. It can all add up and start to impact on the wifi.

Sure. The problem is that very few people understand the impact of running several bandwidth-heavy applications on a shared medium that operates on the basis of collision detection. Instead they run a speed test on their phone at the same time that they're trying to watch several 4k Disney streams, install Windows updates, download Xbox games... then ring their ISP and complain that they're not getting what they're paying for.

Of course the real question is, if you aren't interested in faster speeds, why someone would even bother with 1gig FTTH?

As it happens, I don't - 150Mb/s does me the finest - but there's an important difference between "not interested in faster speeds" and "not obsessing over speedtest results on handheld devices".

Sheep Shagger · 11-06-2020 5:44pm

So despite getting an addressed letter selling the gigabyte broadband and booking an install, got a call from eir saying further work is required and it should be dine by mid August.

They will only continue the work if we commit to signing up but they won't commit that things will be working in mid August.

The friggen lines were laid last summer.

Told them to cancel the order, had to cancel the cancellation at Virgin too, will have a think.

Seems with multiple owners eir are as **** as they've always been. In fairness the CEO tells people who tweet her personally to email her with their issues.

ClonNGB · 16-06-2020 9:55am

After years of hoping and waiting, finally got the FTTH installed. Nervous as hell as they squeezed the rod through 80m of duct. The relief when the rod reached the other end! KN guy refused to route the cable anywhere outside the house exterior and said for IFN jobs it is up to the customer to provide a duct to inside. So the old video where they were tacking the line to the facia etc. does not apply. Luckily I had a duct I could use. He brought no router either as it was an "IFN job". I called Vodafone and they say one should have arrived in the post, but it appears to have gotten lost. Anyway I rigged up an old VDSL router and put it into bridge mode (VLAN Tag 10) and connected it up to Google nest and all is working.

alpha2003_ · 16-06-2020 11:06pm

Siro informed me they would be skipping my estate in Dublin 13 Due to the lack of Ducting and poles in the area, Will Eir also skip us with their new FTTH service or would they install new ducting/Poles?

The Max i can get from Eir atm is up to 100MBps

Airwire: MartinL · 17-06-2020 9:56am

We have updated the database for OpenEIR FTTC/FTTH today.

It can be found at https://www.airwire.ie/avail

andrewbrowne · 19-06-2020 9:33pm

According to the rollout map fibre broaband (no overhead line option) should be available at my address in 6 weeks. Thats was 10 or 12 weeks ago and it still saying the same.

My home is one of 10 or 12 new houses on an existing development with the existing houses already with access to the fibre.

KN networks mechanic told us we are just waiting for it to be activated. They done call outs on pretty much the same thing for all the new residents. It's what they get paid to do so they don't care if they have to tell us all the same thing.

Anyway the lines/underground cables, cabinets, boxes and access points in the home are there so it's infrastructurally sound in the regard.

Obviously covid will have held things up but what is the waiting game about in layman's terms

Airwire: MartinL · 24-06-2020 10:56pm

We have updated the database for OpenEIR FTTC/FTTH today.

It can be found at https://www.airwire.ie/avail

wheresthebeef · 26-06-2020 7:28pm

A company called ICL were blowing fibre up the ducts on our road today. When questioned they said it was for Eir FTTH. Our estate isnt on the Fibrerollout map at all. We shall wait and see.

Rew · 26-06-2020 7:39pm

Eir (KN) did my estate end of April and the fibre is still coiled on the poles not terminated today. Who know when they will complete it.

Sheep Shagger · 26-06-2020 7:42pm

wheresthebeef wrote: »

A company called ICL were blowing fibre up the ducts on our road today. When questioned they said it was for Eir FTTH. Our estate isnt on the Fibrerollout map at all. We shall wait and see.

That was is last summer and it's still not possible to get without 'finishing works'

oscarBravo · 26-06-2020 7:47pm

wheresthebeef wrote: »

A company called ICL were blowing fibre up the ducts on our road today. When questioned they said it was for Eir FTTH. Our estate isnt on the Fibrerollout map at all. We shall wait and see.

That map was for the rural 300k rollout. The urban IFN rollout isn't mapped.

wheresthebeef · 26-06-2020 8:37pm

oscarBravo wrote: »

That map was for the rural 300k rollout. The urban IFN rollout isn't mapped.

That makes sense so. Ours is a new housing estate in Maynooth.

andrewbrowne · 30-06-2020 2:23pm

Ok so rang vodafone to get broadband in and received modem in post and all. They said yeah all is good to go for 80mbps and given date for engineer's visit.

Eir then ring to say yes the area im in I have fibre to cabinet but not fibre to the home which vodafone seemed to have ignored and that I need to contact them about this.

So then am I right in saying Eir can't do anything and I actually can't get broadband after all?

Rew · 30-06-2020 4:41pm

andrewbrowne wrote: »

Ok so rang vodafone to get broadband in and received modem in post and all. They said yeah all is good to go for 80mbps and given date for engineer's visit.

Eir then ring to say yes the area im in I have fibre to cabinet but not fibre to the home which vodafone seemed to have ignored and that I need to contact them about this.

So then am I right in saying Eir can't do anything and I actually can't get broadband after all?

Im not sure the question is here, 80mbps is broadband is is the same service you would get from Eir.

bk · 30-06-2020 4:43pm

andrewbrowne wrote: »

Ok so rang vodafone to get broadband in and received modem in post and all. They said yeah all is good to go for 80mbps and given date for engineer's visit.

Eir then ring to say yes the area im in I have fibre to cabinet but not fibre to the home which vodafone seemed to have ignored and that I need to contact them about this.

So then am I right in saying Eir can't do anything and I actually can't get broadband after all?

Sounds like you are in the wrong thread here, sort of.

So it sounds like you can get VDSL from Eir/Vodafone, but not Eir FTTH, which is a different product.

VDSL is Broadband and it sounds like you can get 80mb/s from it (though you should double check), which is pretty good for VDSL.

However you can't get FTTH, which would offer speeds of up to 1Gb/s (1,000mb/s). Eir can't do anything about this until FTTH is rolled out in your area, which could take years.

Sheep Shagger · 30-06-2020 4:44pm

Anyone with Eir FTTH, what speeds are you getting using a wireless connection in the home.

Don't want estimates, ideally real life examples.

andrewbrowne · 30-06-2020 5:17pm

bk wrote: »

Sounds like you are in the wrong thread here, sort of.

So it sounds like you can get VDSL from Eir/Vodafone, but not Eir FTTH, which is a different product.

VDSL is Broadband and it sounds like you can get 80mb/s from it (though you should double check), which is pretty good for VDSL.

However you can't get FTTH, which would offer speeds of up to 1Gb/s (1,000mb/s). Eir can't do anything about this until FTTH is rolled out in your area, which could take years.

Well in furtherance to that, I rang KLN who install these things. These engineers/contractors have the local knowledge and it's my understanding you don't have a choice with them, they're the guys and whatever they says goes.

KLN are the final piece in the jigsaw they said, it's FTTH only in my area. Their offices informed me of this, so i done the circle again.

Office rang me even offered me up the chance to double check with providers to change it from FTTC to FTTH.

But no matter how good the sell, all that's coming up with the providers is FTTC. I'm sure it does what it says but not available for me by the sounds of it

Don't know where i go from here

Rew · 30-06-2020 10:07pm

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Anyone with Eir FTTH, what speeds are you getting using a wireless connection in the home.

Don't want estimates, ideally real life examples.

That’s going to depend on your wireless access point and wireless client regardless of your FTTH speeds.

shanec1928 · 30-06-2020 10:10pm

Rew wrote: »

That’s going to depend on your wireless access point and wireless client regardless of your FTTH speeds.

And that’s before you even get into the other variables with the house. Walls etc

Sheep Shagger · 30-06-2020 10:14pm

Thanks lads, so with Virgin...get speeds of about 210 odd wireless. I have Google WiFi and have read here that it's tricky to get working with eir FTTH.

Wondering if it is worth the pain to switch.

Airwire: MartinL · 30-06-2020 10:28pm

We have updated the database for OpenEIR FTTC/FTTH today.

It can be found at https://www.airwire.ie/avail

Soarer · 01-07-2020 2:34pm

Was just onto Eir via chat, and asked them what the contention ratio is on their 1gb FTTH package. They said 1:1. Would that be right?

oscarBravo · 01-07-2020 2:49pm

Soarer wrote: »

Was just onto Eir via chat, and asked them what the contention ratio is on their 1gb FTTH package. They said 1:1. Would that be right?

Contention is a completely meaningless number. If they told you it was 4:1, would you have cheerfully accepted a gigabit package that never got above 250Mb/s?

Fibre networks are built and dimensioned to avoid congestion. Contention ratios just aren't a thing at that level.

Soarer · 01-07-2020 4:48pm

Does anybody know how many wireless devices can connect to the fibre router before it freaks out?

Eir urban FTTH

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