Eir urban FTTH

limktime

Javier Tall Stagehand wrote: »

Yes, I believe so. The question would be when. As with all eir announcements this is ridiculously optimistic. 1.4 million premises in five years is not achievable in my opinion.

Here's the list of towns:

Thanks for sharing the list. My town is not on the list, unfortunately. I am in a new estate, that hasn't been cabled, and in a FTTC area. Houses behind me were included in the rural FTTH rollout. I am in a "Blue" DCCAE zone.

Any idea where I would stand since they're unlikely to cable the estate with FTTC at this point, I'm guessing?

tsue921i8wljb3

limktime wrote: »

Thanks for sharing the list. My town is not on the list, unfortunately. I am in a new estate, that hasn't been cabled, and in a FTTC area. Houses behind me were included in the rural FTTH rollout. I am in a "Blue" DCCAE zone.

Any idea where I would stand since they're unlikely to cable the estate with FTTC at this point, I'm guessing?

You'll likely get FTTH at some unknown point in the future. When that would be I can't tell you I'm afraid.

EdgeCase

It's also not like all of those "towns" are equal work.
There's a HUGE difference in scale when you're talking about the towns "Dublin, Co. Dublin", "Cork Co. Cork" vs say "Donegal, Co. Donegal".

Rolling out FTTH across cities would want to be delineated by exchange/suburb or it's fairly meaningless.

The Cush

This was mentioned over on the rural FTTH thread but relevant here, eir's official press release on the urban FTTH rollout and the awarding of the contract to KN Circet

6th of May 2019: eir has today announced the next step in its €500m fixed network investment programme, agreeing a deal with KN Circet to build the Optical Distribution Network (ODN) for the rollout of high-speed broadband to 1.4 million premises. KN Circet will be responsible for the end-to-end roll-out of the fibre network, including every town in Ireland with more than 1,000 premises; delivering a network capable of speeds up to 10 Gbps. Together with eir’s team, this major project will support up to 1,000 jobs in design and network construction across Ireland.

CEO of eir, Carolan Lennon, said: "I am delighted to partner with KN Circet on the roll-out of eir’s urban FTTH network, as part of our €1 billion capital investment programme over the next five years. KN Circet has been a major partner to eir for over 12 years and in that time, we have developed a close working relationship. It has been a major contractor on the roll-out of eir’s rural FTTH network which by June of this year will have passed over 335,000 premises. With the signing of this agreement, I’m confident that together, we will successfully deliver Ireland’s best urban FTTH network for the benefit of all our customers".

KN Circet's Deputy CEO, Donagh Kelly, commented: "KN Circet has been a leading provider to the telecommunications, transport infrastructure and power sectors in Ireland, the UK and internationally, since 1975". We have worked closely with eir for many years and I’m delighted that we will now partner with them on the urban FTTH roll-out, especially given our recent merger with Circet, France’s leading telecommunications services company, which gives us even greater scope to provide best-in-class services to the telecoms industry in Ireland".

https://www.eir.ie/pressroom/eir-agrees-deal-with-KN-Circet-for-next-stage-in-its-500m-fixed-network-investment-programme/

boardzz

Has Eir started the urban rollout yet?
They were blowing fiber in my estate in Galway city couple of weeks ago couple of days before Siro came in blowing fiber.

Marlow

boardzz wrote: »

Has Eir started the urban rollout yet?
They were blowing fiber in my estate in Galway city couple of weeks ago couple of days before Siro came in blowing fiber.

No. There is not even a notion of who is going to deliver their gear yet.

/M

wheresthebeef

We're planning a move to a brand new housing estate in Maynooth shortly. The estate across the road from us is also brand new and many of the houses seem to have FTTH as per the rollout map. Is Eir only putting FTTH into new builds at the moment? Do we stand a good chance of getting FTTH also or will they just eventually drop in a VDSL cab?

washburn73

wheresthebeef wrote: »

We're planning a move to a brand new housing estate in Maynooth shortly. The estate across the road from us is also brand new and many of the houses seem to have FTTH as per the rollout map. Is Eir only putting FTTH into new builds at the moment? Do we stand a good chance of getting FTTH also or will they just eventually drop in a VDSL cab?

Where did you see the FTTH rollout map? The only one I’ve seen shows the standard Eir Fibre (100Mbps) service - not FTTH - available across most of Maynooth. Don’t know of anyone who has been able to get Fibre To The Home with Eir in Maynooth.

wheresthebeef

washburn73 wrote: »

Where did you see the FTTH rollout map? The only one I’ve seen shows the standard Eir Fibre (100Mbps) service - not FTTH - available across most of Maynooth. Don’t know of anyone who has been able to get Fibre To The Home with Eir in Maynooth.

Castlepark on the Dunboyne Road. Some houses have the little FTTH green icon meaning connected, others have the blue planned logo. Makes it look like suburban fibre.

wheresthebeef

wheresthebeef wrote: »

Castlepark on the Dunboyne Road. Some houses have the little FTTH green icon meaning connected, others have the blue planned logo. Makes it look like suburban fibre.

Definitely FTTH. Have just verified Eircodes on Airwire database. Carton Wood seems to be only VDSL. Hoping that Mariavilla gets FTTH rather than crummy DSL.

Mitch Connor

In the new place I am buying, EIR ADSL broadband is currently available but Eir Fibre hasn't been connected yet - it is probably there, but just not fully switched on. Seems to be an argument between the MC and the developers as to who is responsbile for getting the wires or whatever connected.

Assuming they will sort it out in the relative short term, would I be best to go with Eir or Sky for ADSL broadband and then up the contract to Fibre (of some description) when it is sorted - anyone know if there are issues upgrading to a better speed/plan mid contract with either?

tsue921i8wljb3

I should have posted here originally but forgot, anyway ducting for fibre spotted yesterday in urban Dunshaughlin, Co. Meath. Confirmed by Gonzo and babi-hrse. It's unlikely that I've found the only town in Ireland where work has begun so keep an eye out for other areas.

Gonzo

the work in Dunshaughlin could easily have been mistaken for work on Siro and Virgin as they are currently also in the build stage for past several months. The real giveaway is in the College Park estate where KN and 2 other contractors are their with the signs 'working on behalf of OpenEir' are in place. I had another look today and they are making progress in that estate, only working on the ducting for now.

KOR101

So,I guess as one programme fades out, the other fades in.

And,@gonzo is also reporting...

It's almost overkill what's going on in the town! For the past 4 months KN have been very busy working for both Virgin Media and Siro, works still going on and now the Eir urban FTTH has started too! That will be 3 separate urban fibre rings and 1 rural fibre network radiating from the town.

Maybe that's going to be the pattern. Head to head competition on new rollout areas.

[Gonzo beat me to it]

KOR101

Eir crew working at Seapoint in Balbriggan yesterday. Spools of fibre on the poles leading to the Fancourt and Hampton Cove part of the town. SIRO has covered most of the town already but hasn't reached this older part of the town. Eir cabs are already there.

I wonder whether the Dunshaughlin work is throughout the whole town or just targeted at areas not yet covered.

KOR101

Another EIR crew in Balbriggan town on Drogheda street this time near the Garda station. Spool of fibre now on the telephone pole right between two SIRO DPs. Literally one pole away.

Not sure whether this is heading from the cab in a direction where SIRO is not in place.

tsue921i8wljb3

I imagine eir will go after SIRO areas just like they will go after Virgin areas.

KOR101

Javier Tall Stagehand wrote: »

I imagine eir will go after SIRO areas just like they will go after Virgin areas.

Do you see them going into apartment blocks?

tsue921i8wljb3

KOR101 wrote: »

Do you see them going into apartment blocks?

Good question which I'm not entirely sure of the answer to. I guess it would depend on what ducting individual blocks would have in place and their ability to get fibre through those ducts.

KOR101

Javier Tall Stagehand wrote: »

Good question which I'm not entirely sure of the answer to. I guess it would depend on what ducting individual blocks would have in place and their ability to get fibre through those ducts.

And, they have to get past Management Companies who don't want the hassle.

whatawaster

KN have been working away in Drogheda for the past week, and they've been in our estate for the last couple of days.

Got a letter in the door from KN saying they are "installing a new fibre infrastructure service route on behalf of Openeir"

"The work will be carried out by feeding fiber through existing EIR ducts. No new ducting will need to be laid . . ."

"Work will commence from November 2019"

Is this FTTH? And given they are working in my estate at the moment, should I expect this product to be available soon at my address?

tsue921i8wljb3

whatawaster wrote: »

KN have been working away in Drogheda for the past week, and they've been in our estate for the last couple of days.

Got a letter in the door from KN saying they are "installing a new fibre infrastructure service route on behalf of Openeir"

"The work will be carried out by feeding fiber through existing EIR ducts. No new ducting will need to be laid . . ."

"Work will commence from November 2019"

Is this FTTH? And given they are working in my estate at the moment, should I expect this product to be available soon at my address?

Yes it is FTTH. I'd expect it would be some time in the new year before you can order. They might even send you another letter when it's available though you should regularly check your Eircode here to see availability

http://www.airwire.ie/avail

KOR101

whatawaster wrote: »

KN have been working away in Drogheda for the past week, and they've been in our estate for the last couple of days.

Got a letter in the door from KN saying they are "installing a new fibre infrastructure service route on behalf of Openeir"

"The work will be carried out by feeding fiber through existing EIR ducts. No new ducting will need to be laid . . ."

"Work will commence from November 2019"

Is this FTTH? And given they are working in my estate at the moment, should I expect this product to be available soon at my address?

Can't be 100% sure, but I would guess yes.

Do you already have FTTC? If so, then it is certainly FTTH.

whatawaster

KOR101 wrote: »

Can't be 100% sure, but I would guess yes.

Do you already have FTTC? If so, then it is certainly FTTH.

I don't know if I have FTTC - line checker just says up to 30mbs is available.

Virgin did our estate a few years ago so I have 300mbs with them, so I'm not exactly in need of faster broadband, but I'd like to be able to avail of sky / eir bundles, or at least have the option.

Marlow

whatawaster wrote: »

I don't know if I have FTTC - line checker just says up to 30mbs is available.

Anything above 24 Mbit/s is FTTC/VDSL. And the Airwire checker will only tell you about VDSL/FTTC and FTTH as they do not do any of the old tech copper products.

/M

tsue921i8wljb3

Some indicative dates for areas in the first phases of the IFN. Note that the dates given are the earliest proposed dates for the first premises going live in these areas. It does not necessarily mean that all premises will be live on these dates.

20/01/2020|01/04/2020
Balbriggan|Ballinrobe
Balgriffin|Ballyshannon
Ballybunion|Ballymote
Barna|Castleconnell
Boyle|Cahir
Cahir|Castleisland
Carndonagh|Crosshaven
Carrick-on-Shannon|Cahirciveen
Castletroy|Crossagalla
Claremorris|Drogheda
Clonakilty|Tullyallen
Collooney|Drogheda AEH
Coolock|Drogheda Colpe Cross
Dunshaughlin|Deepforde
Galway|Dunmanway
Kilcock|Kinnegad
Kilkenny|Lucan Ballydowd
Kilrush|Quaker Rd
Letterkenny|Sixmilebridge
Midelton|Templemore
Moate|Tuam
Nenagh|
Portlaoise|
Rathkeale|
Ratoath|
Rochestown|
Santry|
Tallaght|

white_westie

Quick question re the IFN list - if an area is listed, will Eir be the only ISP that you can sign up with?

Gonzo

white_westie wrote: »

Quick question re the IFN list - if an area is listed, will Eir be the only ISP that you can sign up with?

it would have the same providers that the Eir Rural FTTH areas have. It's the exact same service/network.

tsue921i8wljb3

white_westie wrote: »

Quick question re the IFN list - if an area is listed, will Eir be the only ISP that you can sign up with?

No. It's an open access network. Most of these companies would sell on it:

https://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/where-to-buy/

AidenL

KN are busily installing in Ballyshannon at the moment, they seem to have vans everywhere.