rebuildable discussion thread

Mr. Chrome · 11-05-2013 5:27am

unblvlblkult wrote: »

Cool, thanks

Not much to see there. Brass button, a spring, and a brass holding nut. Why is it heating up so much you think?

Dont know tbh, could the spring be damaged, or something making a bad contact in there? I had a 1.2ohm coil on the paps and the switch only got slighty warm while chain vaping. If the power is running freely trough the switch it shouldnt get hot afaik.

Green Hornet · 11-05-2013 7:50am

Half thinking of getting a Bulli mod. Nothing fancy about them but they do look pretty compact and would be extremely well engineered. Various sizes available:

http://bulli-smoker.de/index.php?k=1&lang=eng

The elite and basic look quite ego sized. Even the extreme looks compact enough.

Mr. Chrome · 11-05-2013 11:19am

Green Hornet wrote: »

Half thinking of getting a Bulli mod. Nothing fancy about them but they do look pretty compact and would be extremely well engineered. Various sizes available:

http://bulli-smoker.de/index.php?k=1&lang=eng

The elite and basic look quite ego sized. Even the extreme looks compact enough.

Excuse my ignorance (again) but which one is the bulli atomizer, is it the A1 and A2?

Green Hornet · 11-05-2013 11:55am

Well, the Bulli A2 Classic, A2-t and A2-tm are the three atomisers. I have all three......the Classic is excellent in dripping mode.

It's the battery mods that I'm thinking of now.

rui1000 · 11-05-2013 1:48pm

they look nice actually! wich one would you go for?

Green Hornet · 11-05-2013 1:58pm

Not sure actually.....they look nice and compact. Thinking of the elite or basic.

unblvlblkult · 17-05-2013 3:45pm

unblvlblkult wrote: »

Folks this probably doesn't sit here exactly but I'm having a bad time with my new paps and aga-t+ and need advice.

Got the aga coiled at 1.2Ohms and the PAPS in 18350 mode using efest and aw batteries.

My problem is that I get about 20 mins decent vapage out of a fresh battery umtil it just becomes cool and slow to heat up. In fact the button seems to heat up quicker than the coil. Don't seem to have a short in the aga as it'll work fine on my vamo and the batteries barely go past half depletion and work fine in the vamo to the death.

Any advice please?

For the record, and at the risk of dragging this OT again, discovered this problem was due to the spring in the firing button. Fixed it by making sure the spring was coiled tightly and not touching off the sides of the button assembly (more info here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/euro-suppliers/357856-gp-series-vapourart-official-thread-gp-spheroid-gp-paps-gp-piccolo-more-77-print.html) Although I don't quite understand how this makes a difference as surely the spring is in circuit anyway?!?

Result is new RSST clone is wrapped with .5x.1 ribbon kanthal, got some brand new 18500's and using my 18500 PAPS tube. Tis near knocking my knocking my head off.

Also, texas select flue cured tobacco is noice!

Rattleshakes · 13-07-2013 7:39am

What's a good Genesis style atty to use for a silica build?Was considering the RSST.Any better options?

Green Hornet · 13-07-2013 7:51am

What about the R-tank as an option?

http://www.thebestshop.eu/shop/rebuildable-atomizers/226-smok-r-tank.html

Rattleshakes · 13-07-2013 7:58am

Green Hornet wrote: »

What about the R-tank as an option?

http://www.thebestshop.eu/shop/rebuildable-atomizers/226-smok-r-tank.html

I was actually considering this a while back,but after reading a bad review was turned off.Dunno though,maybe it was the review which was bad!

Green Hornet · 13-07-2013 8:04am

Dunno - not that expensive to try out though. Should work with mesh u wick too I'd say.

Of course there's always the well proven Clockworks RTA? One of the first rebuildables out there along with the RDA.

http://clockworks-cornwall.co.uk/

Rattleshakes · 13-07-2013 8:10am

Green Hornet wrote: »

Dunno - not that expensive to try out though. Should work with mesh u wick too I'd say.

Of course there's always the well proven Clockworks RTA? One of the first rebuildables out there along with the RDA.

http://clockworks-cornwall.co.uk/

That is class looking.Have you got one Green?

Green Hornet · 13-07-2013 8:18am

It's worth having a browse of the forums on them, in a good way. They are very highly rated and they've been around since well before rebuildables became main stream. In fact, I think the terms RDA and RTA originated from them.

I don't have an RTA but I have the RDA. It was the first rebuildable I bought way back when. It will last forever and its solid and robust and easy to rebuild.

Didn't get the RTA because I never had a suitable mod. If I had a suitable mod I'd buy one.

Steve, the designer and manufacturer, is a lovely guy too.

Hmmm, haven't thought about one of these for a long time, getting interested myself again now....

Rattleshakes · 13-07-2013 8:36am

They seem to be the originators alright,which is a pretty cool claim.

You should go for one seeing as you have a mod now.I'd definitely consider it after tinkering with something cheaper first.

Rattleshakes · 13-07-2013 8:39am

Did you order any Ekowool yet Green?I've mine here,gonna do a build with it later.
I ordered the 3mm,but it looks more like 6!

Green Hornet · 13-07-2013 8:44am

Nah, I have a decent amount of wick still so I'm holding off. Some of the reviews are a bit mixed as well. Let us know how it works for you.

Rattleshakes · 13-07-2013 9:07am

Green Hornet wrote: »

Nah, I have a decent amount of wick still so I'm holding off. Some of the reviews are a bit mixed as well. Let us know how it works for you.

Yeah the reviews have been all over the shop,so it should be interesting.I might try cotton if this is cack.

Ionised · 13-07-2013 10:01am

Green Hornet wrote: »

Dunno - not that expensive to try out though. Should work with mesh u wick too I'd say.

Of course there's always the well proven Clockworks RTA? One of the first rebuildables out there along with the RDA.

http://clockworks-cornwall.co.uk/

That is a lovely looking atty. One to add to the wish list.

Green Hornet · 13-07-2013 10:16am

Yeah - there's three wick holes in it too so wicking shouldn't be a problem. As I said before, Steve is one really nice guy to deal with too.

Mr. Chrome · 13-07-2013 3:18pm

I couldnt get the r tank to wick properly for me, it just couldnt get juice up to coil fast enough for chain vaping, constant dry hits, I presume the rta with 3 wick holes would wick alot better.

quintron · 13-07-2013 4:33pm

Rattleshakes wrote: »

Did you order any Ekowool yet Green?I've mine here,gonna do a build with it later.
I ordered the 3mm,but it looks more like 6!

I got the 2mm and testing it now in an igo-l.
I don't like how it unbraids so easily and rapidly but it is easier to coil and the braiding density is better for minimizing dry hits. How you getting on with the 3mm? I'd say its a bit thick for any small drippers?
Would it be a bad idea to wrap or "coil" the easily frayed wick ends in no resistance wire about 2mm from the end of the coil to help it keep its shape? Something tells me that's probably a bad idea.. I know.

grindle · 13-07-2013 6:35pm

quintron wrote: »

Would it be a bad idea to wrap or "coil" the easily frayed wick ends in no resistance wire about 2mm from the end of the coil to help it keep its shape? Something tells me that's probably a bad idea.. I know.

As long as you keep it well away from the coils nearest the positive post you're grand.

Green Hornet · 13-07-2013 6:45pm

Will the day ever come that there will be actual consumables that are as good, or nearly as good as rebuildables?

That said, I suppose they are getting better. Anybody remember the smokeymisers......needed a syringe to fill them and they used to destroy 3 or 4 batteries before breakfast? There was some awful stuff around a couple of years ago. The only real rebuildables were the Bulli and Clockworks RDA and they cost a fortune at that time. I think the Clockworks stuff had about 3 or 4 months waiting time!

Ah, those were the days alright! Burnt taste or destroyed battery sir?

Mr. Chrome · 13-07-2013 6:56pm

Yeah, I had those smokeymizers, I gave a box of them away recently, they were mad yokes, dirty rubbery taste off them.
They were one of the first things I used after 510 attys.
I used to think the condensation in the mouthpiece was leaking juice, and I used to suck it out with a syringe and squirt it back into the bottle :-)
Oh those were the days :-)

Green Hornet · 13-07-2013 6:59pm

Ha ha, I'd forgotten about the juice under the drip tip! What a disaster they were!

Mr. Chrome · 13-07-2013 7:13pm

I remember sitting in my car in town, filling them with a syringe and getting some really weird looks!
Non rebuildable vision clearos, they were another vaping disaster :-)

grindle · 13-07-2013 7:18pm

It's already possible - just imagine something like a rectangular evod coil head unit thingy (but wider so I can fit two coils in) that sits into the base of a rebuildable like the Phoenix or iGO.

The seat for the coil could even be placed directly in front of the airhole (preferably adjustable) so people can't fûck up the placement.

Mr. Chrome · 13-07-2013 7:21pm

The way things are moving, it will probably be available next week!

grindle · 13-07-2013 7:58pm

Hopefully! There's gold in them thar hills.

And again, a 22mm protank with a carto diameter tube would basically be the Killer. There's no reason to not make it.

Mr. Chrome · 13-07-2013 10:46pm

Im waiting for a billion mah nuclear powered battery, the size of a five cent coin and costs the same.
Its only a matter of time. :-)

Green Hornet · 13-07-2013 10:54pm

Well, there are 18650 sized ones with 5000mah. Maybe there's even bigger for all I know.

http://www.meshwizard.com/product_p/5000mah.htm

StickyIcky · 13-07-2013 11:08pm

Only 9.99

Why isn't everyone using these?

Mr. Chrome · 13-07-2013 11:09pm

Green Hornet wrote: »

Well, there are 18650 sized ones with 5000mah. Maybe there's even bigger for all I know.

http://www.meshwizard.com/product_p/5000mah.htm

Not a bad price either, they look a bit...cheap though.

grindle · 13-07-2013 11:25pm

So totally definitely not real. If Panasonic or Samsung haven't gotten near to it, it hasn't happened - if it had happened, Panasonic or Samsung would've bought them and we'd be using powerful laptops that can keep a charge for 12h+ (we can dream!).

Think this is a test of them:
http://www.candlepowerforums.com/vb/showthread.php?342382-Test-Review-of-GTL-18650-5000mAh-(Blue)

Green Hornet · 13-07-2013 11:28pm

Heh, It had to be lies alright but how do they get away with that kind of a lie??

Mr. Chrome · 13-07-2013 11:36pm

Green Hornet wrote: »

Heh, It had to be lies alright but how do they get away with that kind of a lie??

Sneaky feckers, very hard for Joe Soap to check the mahs.

grindle · 13-07-2013 11:39pm

How do Trustfire get away with their's?
Benefit of being a Chinese company I suppose, there's no legal consequence for lying, the guilt lies with the company that supplies their crap to unsuspecting consumers and they'll have to deal with all the complaints as well once people start knowing their shït.

quintron · 13-07-2013 11:47pm

very common, just look at any of the chinese sites like dx .com etc. the mAh are always in "inverted commas"..

Rattleshakes · 14-07-2013 9:43am

quintron wrote: »

I got the 2mm and testing it now in an igo-l.
I don't like how it unbraids so easily and rapidly but it is easier to coil and the braiding density is better for minimizing dry hits. How you getting on with the 3mm? I'd say its a bit thick for any small drippers?
Would it be a bad idea to wrap or "coil" the easily frayed wick ends in no resistance wire about 2mm from the end of the coil to help it keep its shape? Something tells me that's probably a bad idea.. I know.

Size wise I have 2 strands of the 3mm in the IGO-W and the airflow is fine.Getting clouds of vapour,but flavour is really muted.I can see Ekowool working better for desert/fruity type juices but flavour is still going to be compromised.
It is easier to work with but as you said,this shiit unravels like crazy! which is annoying.I'll give it one last try with some Kanthal ribbon and if I dont have any success,I'm giving it to the hound.

Btw I got that bullet piercing valve you mentioned.It does a fantastic job on the carto's,effortless.Thanks for the recommendation.

rickyjb · 14-07-2013 9:03pm

These are probably the highest capacity legit batteries around at the moment, right? http://www.thebestshop.eu/shop/batteries/272-joye-evic-3400mah-battery.html

panasonic 3400mAh, anyone have one?

rickyjb · 15-07-2013 10:55pm

Drilled a hole in the side of the smok RDA and put another coil in to see what it was like. Very airy draw but not bad at all, definitely better than it was. The aluminium casing is so soft I didn't even need a drill, just did it by hand. Cheap way of trying a dual coil set up if you don't have a drill, you just need a drill bit.

StickyIcky · 16-07-2013 12:39am

rickyjb wrote: »

These are probably the highest capacity legit batteries around at the moment, right? http://www.thebestshop.eu/shop/batteries/272-joye-evic-3400mah-battery.html

panasonic 3400mAh, anyone have one?

Just bought one. Should have it in the next few days. Only 700 mah or about 24% more mah than the battery that comes with the evic, so will be good to have but am not expecting anything mind blowing.

dball · 16-08-2013 10:23am

does anyone own an Ohm meter reader if you are rebuilding: if so where did you get one that you can screw on a base of a atomiser.
I'm thinking of trying to rebuild a coil and i want to make sure i have all i need to get started.

Thanks!

csi vegas · 16-08-2013 1:42pm

dball wrote: »

does anyone own an Ohm meter reader if you are rebuilding: if so where did you get one that you can screw on a base of a atomiser.
I'm thinking of trying to rebuild a coil and i want to make sure i have all i need to get started.

Thanks!

I can't post a link right now, on my phone - still haven't mastered it but I'm gonna get a Vamo/Evic/iTaste v3 which will also double as an ohm reader = savings. I'm sure they're just as effective.

jamie72 · 16-08-2013 6:19pm

You can pick up a multimeter from dealextreme.com for about a fiver, they are handy to have.

dball · 16-08-2013 7:49pm

csi vegas wrote: »

I can't post a link right now, on my phone - still haven't mastered it but I'm gonna get a Vamo/Evic/iTaste v3 which will also double as an ohm reader = savings. I'm sure they're just as effective.

thanks csi, but i meant the type jamie is talking about.

jamie72 wrote: »

You can pick up a multimeter from dealextreme.com for about a fiver, they are handy to have.

cheers jamie

DublinCJM · 27-08-2013 12:00am

So I've started trying to rebuild my protank heads. I've done 2 now and they both look ok but when I put them on my itaste it just reads NON as if there's nothing in there.

I stick them onto my ego, and am getting nice orange glowing coils.

So am not sure what's wrong, but also don't know what ohm they are and I can't use them on my itaste cos it won't fire with them on.

Any suggestions??

Thanks!!

Mr. Chrome · 27-08-2013 12:19am

Ohms of coil are too low for the itaste or centre pin isn't making contact with the itaste would be my guess(s) :-)

artyeva · 27-08-2013 12:19am

centre pin not making contact?

edit - snappitty snap snap! ^^^

DublinCJM · 27-08-2013 12:29am

Hmmm. But it's just a normal protank head? And other protank heads work fine on the itaste -not ones built by me mind you

Maybe the ohms are too low. But I did a 4 wrap and a 5 wrap and they're glowing nicely and quickly on the ego.....

Scared to use them in a tank though!!

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