Anyone notice the rollout of segregated alcohol in supermarkets?

Granadino · 10-11-2020 11:15pm

Only here and the UK is there a debate on buying booze. It’s not an issue anywhere else.
I guess people can’t go without for a while. How bloody difficult can it be...
But if people want to stock up let them at it.

tjdaly · 10-11-2020 11:16pm

All part of The Great Reset OP

elperello · 10-11-2020 11:18pm

Starting to warm to the saloons.

That aisle is a little place of calm now.

Nobody speeding through with loaded trolley heading full steam for the checkout.

I can browse in comfort, I think I might buy more not less.

YFlyer · 11-11-2020 12:33am

Grant Stevens wrote: »

Not sure if this is the place to mention this but I have noticed in some of my local supermarkets this week, a seemingly well organised rollout of gated/ segregated closing off of the alcohol section but no mention of it any where in the media. Looks as though it may be coordinated as communicated nationwide amongst retailers. Anyone else confirm this is happening in their area? Currently observed in Waterford.

With retailers currently barricading 'non-essential' aisles in supermarkets during lockdown, could these permanent structures that are being installed in alcohol aisles signal a more permanent use of the lockdown strategy in the future?

Yes noticed in Supervalue Castletroy Limerick and Aldi, Dublin Road Limerick.

Hotblack Desiato · 12-11-2020 5:13pm

Grant Stevens wrote: »

When we were kids growing up in the 80s, my brother and I were often passed off to an auntie or an uncle on a Saturday to be 'minded'. This sometimes meant an afternoon in the pub, being ployed with Big Bother Red Lemonade and Kp peanuts.

Seems like a lot of effort just so they could get a ride once a week

beachhead wrote: »

That has always been the law since shops were allowed sell alcohol.The shops are allowed same hours as pubs but they should close the alco sales one hour before pubs(a lot don't).

Off-licences with pub licences (which is most of them) were allowed sell right up to pub closing time until a few years back when the publicans lobbied to get it knocked back to 10pm, and of course the TDs (none of whom would own pubs, cause that would be a conflict of interest :rolleyes: ) were more than happy to oblige.

Hotblack Desiato · 12-11-2020 5:14pm

dxhound2005 wrote: »

I don't think there is any danger of a scarcity of drink in Ireland.

The National Income and Expenditure Annual Results show that €7.447 billion was spent on alcoholic beverages (including pubs) in 2018.

That's about €2,000 for every adult.

That's because of the outrageous level of taxation on alcohol in this country, we're about 90% above EU average prices and second only to Finland.

Consumption is average and has been falling for the last 20 years.

murphyebass · 12-11-2020 7:13pm

elperello wrote: »

Starting to warm to the saloons.

That aisle is a little place of calm now.

Nobody speeding through with loaded trolley heading full steam for the checkout.

I can browse in comfort, I think I might buy more not less.

Completely agree. Bought a bottle of whiskey in Aldi the other day because I had time in that area that normally you’d be pushed up against with someone milking through ya to get to the till.

phantom_lord · 13-11-2020 9:02am

I'm a bit angry about this legislation, and the push for more.

Some small puritan group has imposed this against the will of the general population. And they're only going to continue to push further.

It's dictatorship by the minority

https://medium.com/incerto/the-most-intolerant-wins-the-dictatorship-of-the-small-minority-3f1f83ce4e15

Most people are against but not enough to lobby on it.

storker · 13-11-2020 9:08am

elperello wrote: »

Starting to warm to the saloons.

Whenever I go through the saloon doors I'm disappointed that nobody says "Just passin' through, pardner?"

un5byh7sqpd2x0 · 13-11-2020 9:17am

YFlyer wrote: »

Yes noticed in Supervalue Castletroy Limerick and Aldi, Dublin Road Limerick.

Lidl Ennis Road had nothing last night, Dunnes across the road had saloon doors.

Allinall · 13-11-2020 9:52am

This affects me not in the slightest, and I buy alcohol regularly in supermarkets.

Zebra3 · 13-11-2020 2:40pm

Was in my local Lidl last night and there were no changes at all.

Good to see.

Country has lost the plot.

Thelonious Monk · 13-11-2020 4:03pm

I'm pretty sure all of our TDs voted in favour of this, and minimum unit pricing. An absolute embarrassment, being treated like kids while our Euro neighbours can sell alcohol anywhere at any time. Even in London you can buy beer 24 hours.
It's f*cking scandalous.

champchamp · 13-11-2020 4:37pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I'm pretty sure all of our TDs voted in favour of this, and minimum unit pricing. An absolute embarrassment, being treated like kids while our Euro neighbours can sell alcohol anywhere at any time. Even in London you can buy beer 24 hours.
It's f*cking scandalous.

Thank the VFI lobby.

Zebra3 · 13-11-2020 6:54pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I'm pretty sure all of our TDs voted in favour of this, and minimum unit pricing. An absolute embarrassment, being treated like kids while our Euro neighbours can sell alcohol anywhere at any time. Even in London you can buy beer 24 hours.
It's f*cking scandalous.

The same TDs who won't give up their taxpayer subsidised bar in their workplace.

And people wonder why politicians are despised.

Richard Hillman · 13-11-2020 7:00pm

It's all on Alcohol Action Ireland. A shady lobby group who are bizarrely funded out of the Health Budget. They are a group of about 10 people who a paid by the government to call for more restrictions on alcohol.

All of their "studies" and "research" basically involve them strolling into shops, jotting down the prices of alcohol and trying to calculate how cheap you can get drunk on. Some of their findings have been skeptical to say the least.

NPHET Junta Leader General Tony Hoolihan has been known to cavort with Alcohol Action Ireland

whisky_galore · 13-11-2020 7:05pm

storker wrote: »

Whenever I go through the saloon doors I'm disappointed that nobody says "Just passin' through, pardner?"

Does this piano player stop and everyone turns around and stares at you?

whisky_galore · 13-11-2020 7:11pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

It's all on Alcohol Action Ireland. A shady lobby group who are bizarrely funded out of the Health Budget. They are a group of about 10 people who a paid by the government to call for more restrictions on alcohol.

All of their "studies" and "research" basically involve them strolling into shops, jotting down the prices of alcohol and trying to calculate how cheap you can get drunk on. Some of their findings have been skeptical to say the least.

NPHET Junta Leader General Tony Hoolihan has been known to cavort with Alcohol Action Ireland

So basically they think some PVC doors and an "aisle of shame" will deter purchase of drink?

elperello · 13-11-2020 7:58pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I'm pretty sure all of our TDs voted in favour of this, and minimum unit pricing. An absolute embarrassment, being treated like kids while our Euro neighbours can sell alcohol anywhere at any time. Even in London you can buy beer 24 hours.
It's f*cking scandalous.

You are correct.

Everyone of them except one Senator stitched us up because they think they know what's best for us.

Please don't forget that when they ask you not to forget them.

The one exception was Prof. Sean Barrett who rightly identified the fact that the extra money we will be paying will go to the drinks industry. Insult to injury.

Richard Hillman · 13-11-2020 8:00pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

So basically they think some PVC doors and an "aisle of shame" will deter purchase of drink?

Basically, yes :pac:

https://twitter.com/AlcoholIreland/status/1326800926397575169?s=19

They are absolute nutters and for some reason when they sneeze they media lap up them up as the voice of alcohol.

I was breezing through their accounts earlier. Their total income for 2018 was 278k. 252k comes from the health service. Another 26k comes from their offshoot groups who don't declare their income, which are run by themselves too. That's a bit strange.

They manage to raise a total of €1,300 themselves. 173k gets spent on the wages of 3 people and their pensions.

What do we get for 250k?
They release statements praising the government for implementing alcohol restrictions and then walk around shops jotting down prices.

Theres a scandal there but the media won't touch the NGOs/Lobbyists because they all want jobs in the industry.

https://alcoholireland.ie/reports/

Spanish Eyes · 13-11-2020 8:03pm

Was in Aldi earlier. No doors from the main supermarket area into the den of iniquity, but those saloon doors were at the end near the tills. Anyway, who cares it's just another control measure in our lives. As long as we can still buy the stuff it's all good.

Wonder how the "shop local to support your local business" operations like Spar/Mace and so on will cope. Hope there are exemptions for small ops like these.

Spanish Eyes · 13-11-2020 8:05pm

champchamp wrote: »

Thank the VFI lobby.

The irony is that the pubs have been closed for months, but the off sales are booming. The opposite of the intention I think :P

PokeHerKing · 13-11-2020 8:05pm

I only realised this was a thing because of this thread. I was in dunnes, tescos and obriens yesterday getting my Xmas whisky and didn't even notice. Who cares?

Lidl in Tallaght village have had this for donkeys, I quite like the privacy.

13-11-2020 8:06pm

elperello wrote: »

Starting to warm to the saloons.

That aisle is a little place of calm now.

Nobody speeding through with loaded trolley heading full steam for the checkout.

I can browse in comfort, I think I might buy more not less.

I work in a busy supermarket off licence. Its far from a little place of calm. The barriers cause a crowd to build up around the gates trying to get in and out, less space for social distancing. It's much harder to actually work in there now.

Quantum Erasure · 13-11-2020 8:08pm

Nothing in my local supervalu, full pallets of slabs out on the floor, moreso than usual. Maybe they're creating a barrier out of cans...

24 carlsberg for €25, how bad

Spanish Eyes · 13-11-2020 8:09pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I work in a busy supermarket off licence. Its far from a little place of calm. The barriers cause a crowd to build up around the gates trying to get in and out, less space for social distancing. It's much harder to actually work in there now.

Home delivery is purchaser's friend here. Our local off license has a great selection of everything, and especially stocks our favourites. A small mark up compared to supermarket + E2 delivery charge, but look it, phone up, place order, pay by card and delivery within half an hour.

Great thing is the neighbours think it's a food takeaway lol

whisky_galore · 13-11-2020 8:16pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

https://twitter.com/AlcoholIreland/status/1326800926397575169?s=19

Won't someone please think of the intentionally posed children?

Spanish Eyes · 13-11-2020 9:28pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

Won't someone please think of the intentionally posed children?

Those kids should be at school. The rest of us are isolating in Level 5 for them to keep their parents sane and the hospitals relatively able to cope.

Manipulation central going on here. Honestly.

thesimpsons · 13-11-2020 10:36pm

Ah ffs, can we not be trusted to do anything or to think for ourselves without politicians butting their noises in trying to make life better for us ? Is there going to be another section cordoned off for soft drinks, crisps and biscuits, sweets and chocolate ? Why aren't the anti-obesity lobby looking for this too. This surely highlights the idea that alcohol is so bad for us that it needs to be sold separately rather than go having it as a normal drink for normal people. Why do I need to buy my wine/beer almost under cover yet Mary with 3 overweight kids can buy multipacks of cheap crisps openly ?

Zebra3 · 13-11-2020 10:38pm

thesimpsons wrote: »

Ah ffs, can we not be trusted to do anything or to think for ourselves without politicians butting their noises in trying to make life better for us ? Is there going to be another section cordoned off for soft drinks, crisps and biscuits, sweets and chocolate ? Why aren't the anti-obesity lobby looking for this too. This surely highlights the idea that alcohol is so bad for us that it needs to be sold separately rather than go having it as a normal drink for normal people. Why do I need to buy my wine/beer almost under cover yet Mary with 3 overweight kids can buy multipacks of cheap crisps openly ?

Because the country is full of virtue signalling w*nkbags.

andekwarhola · 13-11-2020 10:43pm

thesimpsons wrote: »

Why aren't the anti-obesity lobby looking for this too.

They could probably just push for narrowed aisles.

Quackster · 13-11-2020 11:01pm

Granadino wrote: »

Only here and the UK is there a debate on buying booze. It’s not an issue anywhere else.
I guess people can’t go without for a while. How bloody difficult can it be...
But if people want to stock up let them at it.

You've obviously never been in any of the Nordic countries! Or the US, Canada, Australia, NZ...

Potential-Monke · 14-11-2020 1:02am

I love watching drinkers get upset because there's new regulations or physical barriers to alcohol purchases now. At least ye can still buy it legally...

whisky_galore · 14-11-2020 2:06am

Quackster wrote: »

You've obviously never been in any of the Nordic countries! Or the US, Canada, Australia, NZ...

Where they have drive thru bottle shops and then wonder why they have a drink driving problem?

whisky_galore · 14-11-2020 2:08am

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I love watching drinkers get upset because there's new regulations or physical barriers to alcohol purchases now. At least ye can still buy it legally...

Because Prohibition worked a treat, didn't it?

Potential-Monke · 14-11-2020 2:10am

whisky_galore wrote: »

Because Prohibition worked a treat, didn't it?

I don't disagree. In fact, I completely agree prohibition was a complete failure and just would never work. My reference was to my favourite and only method of inebriation still being illegal despite... I'm just not gonna bother. You get the gist.

delboythedub · 14-11-2020 2:14am

Think it was not a great idea for the government to Sell alcohol licence to any local Cornor shop / petrol station etc. Love me pints but alcohol selling outlets need to be controlled better.

previous user · 14-11-2020 2:17am

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

What exactly do they think these doors will achieve?

Theyll keep toddlers from guzzling all the alcohol.

14-11-2020 2:22am

If they have swing doors they better goddamn have sarsaparilla.

storker · 14-11-2020 3:02am

whisky_galore wrote: »

Does this piano player stop and everyone turns around and stares at you?

...and somewhere in the background Doc Holliday is saying "...I disapprove of his very existence. I considered ending it myself on several occasions but...self control got the better of me."

elperello · 14-11-2020 7:49pm

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I don't disagree. In fact, I completely agree prohibition was a complete failure and just would never work. My reference was to my favourite and only method of inebriation still being illegal despite... I'm just not gonna bother. You get the gist.

Just a small but important point, a lot of us drink for other reasons besides getting inebriated.

You can enjoy a nice cold beer on a Summers day or a little whiskey by the fire in Winter or a glass of wine with dinner all without becoming even a little tipsy.

Quackster · 14-11-2020 9:14pm

My local Lidl has installed see-through doors that open automagically. Being see-though doesn't meet the regulations IMO.

And being automatic makes it all too easy for all the numpties to queue for the check-out though the alcohol aisle, keeping the doors open. All very pointless.

TallGlass2 · 14-11-2020 9:37pm

Quackster wrote: »

My local Lidl has installed see-through doors that open automagically. Being see-though doesn't meet the regulations IMO.

And being automatic makes it all too easy for all the numpties to queue for the check-out though the alcohol aisle, keeping the doors open. All very pointless.

They are just missing the advertisements on them...

Speaking of which, if your not allowed see into them, then why are we allowed to look into pubs and local off licences. The windows should be removed from all, ASAP. (that's a joke by the way)

3d4life · 14-11-2020 11:00pm

TallGlass2 wrote: »

They are just missing the advertisements on them...

Speaking of which, if your not allowed see into them, then why are we allowed to look into pubs and local off licences. The windows should be removed from all, ASAP. (that's a joke by the way)

Maybe a joke but isnt that what happens in some of the U S of A ?

( BTW That Lidl gear probably comes from the fatherland - regulations probably lost something in translation ... )

elperello · 14-11-2020 11:09pm

3d4life wrote: »

Maybe a joke but isnt that what happens in some of the U S of A ?

( BTW That Lidl gear probably comes from the fatherland - regulations probably lost something in translation ... )

In some parts of the US you can't buy a drink at all.

They call them dry counties. No bars, liquor stores not even a drink in a hotel.

You will know when you come to the county line (boundary with next county) there will usually be a couple of liquor stores.

You can take the drink back into the dry county and drink your fill.

whisky_galore · 14-11-2020 11:13pm

elperello wrote: »

In some parts of the US you can't buy a drink at all.

They call them dry counties. No bars, liquor stores not even a drink in a hotel.

You will know when you come to the county line (boundary with next county) there will usually be a couple of liquor stores.

You can take the drink back into the dry county and drink your fill.

In a country populated by nutters, this comes as no great surprise.

14-11-2020 11:19pm

ASOT wrote: »

I have some tinfoil for sale if youv run out OP.

Feeling a bit foolish now, eh??

3d4life · 14-11-2020 11:29pm

Cant be long 'till Brown Bagging is the norm in this country too

YFlyer · 15-11-2020 2:44pm

Have a look at this link. I know its awhile off but it needs to be addressed.

https://customer-service.lidl.ie/SelfServiceIE/s/article/What-time-do-Lidl-start-selling-alcohol-1593336827610

15-11-2020 2:51pm

I seen directly into one in a SuperValu today and I didn’t even have 27 cans and beat the Mrs when I got home. Strange.

Anyone notice the rollout of segregated alcohol in supermarkets?

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