Olympic Council fella Pat Hickey Arrested in Rio

daisybelle2008 wrote: »

I didn't hear it but written down it is really inarticulate. Even the 'Miracle baby' stuff is confusing. 'With great effort they are hoping there will be another baby....that's just a background to the stress they're under at the moment' ....is she linking PH's situation to the baby survival or conception or what? The 'heart condition' sounds sketchy as hell.
And 'trawled naked'? We saw sweet FA....not that you'd want to mind, just his head and neck.

God she got it easy from Marian.

I'm really annoyed at how easy she got it. We keep hearing about "Fred", but what about Stephen who was over there and left very shortly before the police arrived? No mention of him at all?

I presume the miracle baby means IVF or something. And yes, if you were pregnant and your father was in prison abroad, with people saying horrible things about him on the internet, then yeah, you'd probably be a bit stressed. Imagine how much more stressed you'd be if you didn't have full access to RTÉ to let everyone know how unfair you thought it was? If you couldn't just click your fingers and have government ministers make themselves available to you?

All that bull**** about "grandad taking the kid to school for something special" makes me want to puke though. Most kids in the country manage to start school without having the entire extended family there - they're lucky if both parents manage to make it.

And for a solicitor with such a huge interest in human rights, if she's so outraged at Hickey's treatment that she considers it to be a "flagrant breach of his fundamental human rights", she's not going to get very far in that area if "not being allowed do anything the **** he wants" is the worst thing she can think of. Should we tell her about torture and summary executions?

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Look, if Mick Jagger can have a baby at 72, there is nothing wrong with Pat Hickey trying to have one, or even two

But what about his dodgy ticker? :eek:

Joe_ Public wrote: »

Only a couple of sentences in, came to the bit about the "miracle baby" and already my gob is well and truly smacked!!

Jesus Christ?

Love nor Money wrote: »

I got this ,but that's the contract that Joe Punter enters into when buying a ticket so it can't be the right rules.

Similarly, general sales of tickets ROCOG - ATR - punter is not what this is about at all and is therefore a bit of a red herring.

This is about the NOC (OCI here) allocation and the process for passing tickets to the ATR (Pro10 here). That's what brought Hickey into it at all.

I suppose it's also about the nomination process but that will be its own kettle of fish.

That's the one. There's also a document that outlines the ATR application process which gives a bit more info. But section 6 in what you've linked to is the bit that deals with ATRs.

The rules on NOC allocations has still eluded me. It's funny because I got in a bit of a heated discussion with another guy about this where I was saying exactly what you are saying and he refused to accept that and said the rules above apply to all tickets; ATR public sale ones and NOC ones.

So I'm sorry, but I can't help you beyond what you have there. If it's any comfort, I agree that there should be some clarity on the NOC tickets but to date I can't find anything about them.

Spinners keep spinning.

This one is breathtaking.

http://m.independent.ie/opinion/comment/liam-collins-time-we-stopped-treating-hickey-as-public-enemy-number-one-35002756.html

ahlookit wrote: »

Spinners keep spinning.

This one is breathtaking.

http://m.independent.ie/opinion/comment/liam-collins-time-we-stopped-treating-hickey-as-public-enemy-number-one-35002756.html

That is unbelievable, if this story has told us anything it's that the media stinks in this country.

What are the media and his camp talking about 'he is enemy number one', 'there is 'hatefest'.?? Where are they getting that? The public have been pretty much 'gagged' from speaking about Pat negatively and we are 'drip feed' spin that insults our intelligence.
Anything negative has been pretty much covert, as comments are disabled in articles, texts not read out on air that dare speak negatively about him, his family seem to have the whole of RTE as their personal PR arm, and now articles like this basically telling us to 'shut up and be nice' and stop thinking for yourselves.

mojesius wrote: »

TL, DR: 'Pat is my friend, and the IRA and Bertie are worse, so feck off with your Irish begrudgery and leave him alone.'

Liam could be from this parish?

Walter2016 wrote: »

Reading some of the comments you'd think Pat Hickey was a murderer or rapist. He'd probably get treated better by Brazilian police if if was a murderer - 400 murders a month in Rio and they get bail fairly easily.

Certainly Hickey rubs some people up the wrong way, but does he deserve the treatment that has been metted out by independent.ie or the equally gutter tabloids of the Mail and Mirror? The same sort of "we will make judgement and we will punish you" formula that the independent has used on other people including Michaela McCollum, Eamon Lillis etc. Independent is never satisfied with normal justice - it must add its own. Funny, its owned by Denis O'Brien who will go tot eh end of the earth to pevent stories about him being printed

Even if every scintilla of info was true, what was it? He allowed a different firm sell some tickets as part of hospitality packages - yep, thats it.

Not even a scintilla of evidence to say he got one cent for himself. No evidence of any favours such as fancy holidays. Not even a big fancy car like many charity CEOs have. No big salary either - in fact no salary whatsoever. Yes a bursary of 60k for him to decide what non profit educational / sports format it takes.

Some of the gutter press have tried the story of a family of an olympian being unable to get tickets - he only qualified at the last minute. His mother only started to look for tickets 5 days before it started!!! Whoops - did the gutter press not mention that important part?


Yes, Hickey is not the most likeable person, but the fervent hate by people, perpertrated by one sided rubbish by the independent and other gutter press is what is disgusting about it. Seems they target sheep that read and believe the muck they write and those sheep blindly believe everthing that is written.

As long as you got his back.....

If Liam Collins, or any of the other journalists defending Hickey happen to read this, they need to understand a few things.

The majority of people are not delighting in Hickey's downfall. The hatefest is not directed at a single man, but rather at the the representation we are being given by the Irish media. Mallon, who is in the same situation, possibly a more serious situation as he was found with the tickets, is barely getting a mention. You know why? Because we're not being force fed constant stories about him that we're supposed to sympathise with.

The access his PR people seem to have to the media is primarily what's riling people up. If I was arrested in Brazil tomorrow, I cannot imagine that my family's representatives would be given free rein to parrot disingenuous sob stories in "soft" interviews. I doubt that I could have the comments sections of most online newspapers closed down by threatening legal action.

The story has swiftly changed from a hearty septuagenarian who travels the world, manages an organisation, goes for daily runs and is hale enough to be "one of the most important people in the world of sports" to "a frail 71-year-old man with a heart condition".

Yes, I'm sure he probably does have a heart condition - most people of that age do (and most just aren't aware of it, as they haven't had the benefit of regular checkups at the Blackrock Clinic). He was monitored for 24 hours in hospital, and found to be fit enough for jail - they're not denying him medical treatment.

His family circumstances are irrelevant, yet they're being trotted out to garner sympathy. Pregnant daughters/daughters-in-law are not grounds for ignoring a foreign judicial system. Neither is a kid starting school.

The fact that he hasn't been charged is grossly misleading - the Brazilian justice system is different from ours, and has a step before being charged. Due process is being carried out, it's just not the same as the Irish system.

Having his head shaved was reported like it was some major indignity (when in fact it's quite a sensible precaution against headlice), yet it seems that wasn't even true. You can be very sure that his treatment in Brazil is far better than most people's - they will be very conscious of not letting the rich foreigner come to any harm while he's in their care

No real questions are being asked - why did his wife lie about his whereabouts, where is his son Stephen, did he and his wife really have three hotel rooms, how was government funding disbursed between sports, why are we bothering to hold an inquiry in Ireland - what are the goals of that inquiry given it seems no crime was committed in Ireland... There are lots of angles journalists could take, but instead we're being hit with a barrage of "oh poor Pat, they have mosquitos in Brazil, poor frail little old Pat - won't get to take his grandson to school".

That is why people are annoyed. It's not a "hatefest" - it's irritation that once again those with deep enough pockets seem to get to dictate the agenda, particularly in the state broadcaster, which we're all forking over €160 to support.

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

:D:D:D:D:D

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rio-2016-olympics/inside-the-windsor-marapendi-former-oci-chiefs-room-is-a-far-cry-from-notorious-prison-35002764.html

The Indo's article this morning showing us Pats "lavish" hotel room he was arrested from.

I think the guys from the Indo need to go and stay in a few nice hotels, as that hotel looks very ordinary, as does it's breakfast buffet!

So ordinary, he needed 3 of them.

At least Pat Kenny's asking her a few questions instead of "How are the grandkids taking it"

Is she for real? "The family member had to run out of a shopping centre because their granddad was all over the papers". The humanity Pat!