Leinster vs Munster - The buildup for the ages!

Shefwedfan · 14-05-2019 9:43am

slingerz wrote: »

Ross Byrne will have to start this game. After not getting on the pitch last week, to be on the sidelines again for a big game you wouldnt be surprised if he looked at pastures new

Ross has played nearly 1100 mins this season. Sexton not even 700. He would have more minutes only Leinster wouldnot risk him and wanted to give Frawley experience.

He has started nearly as many European games as Sexton this season. Played in more than Sexton

He is 24 and is about to be the number 1 starting 10 at one of the tops in Europe.....

I said on the Leinster thread that in reality Ross is our starting 10 and Sexton at this stage is a marquee 10 because of the amount of times he actually plays for Leinster.

Please explain why he would be looking for pastures new?

sydthebeat · 14-05-2019 9:46am

slingerz wrote: »

Ross Byrne will have to start this game. After not getting on the pitch last week, to be on the sidelines again for a big game you wouldnt be surprised if he looked at pastures new

Ross Byrne would be CRAZY to move from Leinster. He is very much the heir apparent to sexton, who is playing less and less as the years go by.

As said already he has played much more minutes this season than sexton, and will again put in much more time next season.

all that being said, i expect him to start on saturday.

thomond2006 · 14-05-2019 9:47am

I don't think Byrne will look to leave but Leinster will need to keep him happy. He's set for another two seasons as Sexton's understudy.

mossy464 · 14-05-2019 10:41am

Is there free street parking anywhere around the RDS on a Saturday?

awec · 14-05-2019 10:43am

mossy464 wrote: »

Is there free street parking anywhere around the RDS on a Saturday?

Pretty sure the embassy area is free, but get there early.

slingerz · 14-05-2019 10:44am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Ross has played nearly 1100 mins this season. Sexton not even 700. He would have more minutes only Leinster wouldnot risk him and wanted to give Frawley experience.

He has started nearly as many European games as Sexton this season. Played in more than Sexton

He is 24 and is about to be the number 1 starting 10 at one of the tops in Europe.....

I said on the Leinster thread that in reality Ross is our starting 10 and Sexton at this stage is a marquee 10 because of the amount of times he actually plays for Leinster.

Please explain why he would be looking for pastures new?

All players want to play on the biggest of days. Minutes against Zebre/Treviso/Dragons in the International windows dont matter a jot to a player like Byrne. He is a top class 10 and he knows this as well. To sit on the bench for the entireity of the game when the incumbent was not exactly pulling up trees would be taken as a lack of trust by the management in him. After his starring role against Ulster in the QF he could rightly expect to be regarded in higher terms than he is. Should Sexton start on the weekend and Byrne receive only garbage minutes at the end, then a player of his calibre will rightfully not be content with that.

He would be the starting 10 in 90% of teams in Europe and top level players want to be playing in the big games. Seeing Carty pass him in by in Ireland reckoning wont aid his mood either. Say he looked to move to Ulster, became their starting 10 and was the main man in their European games next season then he would be looking at bypassing Carbery as the backup 10 for Ireland not the 4th choice

salmocab · 14-05-2019 10:47am

mossy464 wrote: »

Is there free street parking anywhere around the RDS on a Saturday?

Yeah a good bit would be free on Saturday especially on the Donnybrook side near the park, unless you are a Munster supporter then your getting clamped

Akrasia · 14-05-2019 10:50am

This game is a bit of a lose lose for Munster. If we win, the leinster fans and all the 'pundits' will say munster only won because leinster are battered and depressed after last week's match

If we lose, it'll be because Munster are falling apart from the inside out

If it's a close game and leinster lose, the leinster fans will say Munster should have won by more because Leinster's heart wasn't in it, if it's a close game and Munster lose, it'll be Leinster who bravely overcame their loss last week and Munster bottled it.

If Munster hammer leinster (unlikely) it'll be because Leinster didn't turn up.

Sabre0001 · 14-05-2019 10:52am

Even if the ref dots down a try himself, I'd still take a Munster win! :P

kingofthekong · 14-05-2019 10:56am

slingerz wrote: »

Ross Byrne will have to start this game. After not getting on the pitch last week, to be on the sidelines again for a big game you wouldnt be surprised if he looked at pastures new

Not a chance is he looking at pastures new

Sexton has only a couple of years left and then he will be first choice at one of the best clubs in Europe

Shefwedfan · 14-05-2019 10:58am

Akrasia wrote: »

This game is a bit of a lose lose for Munster. If we win, the leinster fans and all the 'pundits' will say munster only won because leinster are battered and depressed after last week's match

If we lose, it'll be because Munster are falling apart from the inside out

If it's a close game and leinster lose, the leinster fans will say Munster should have won by more because Leinster's heart wasn't in it, if it's a close game and Munster lose, it'll be Leinster who bravely overcame their loss last week and Munster bottled it.

If Munster hammer leinster (unlikely) it'll be because Leinster didn't turn up.

I doubt anyone will say Munster are falling apart from the inside. The squad is stronger than last season and they identified an issue with coaching, or a preceived issue. How they dealt with it is not ideal but they could end up stronger next year in that department, hard to tell yet....

They have managed to hold onto the same core squad for next season without any big players leaving like previous years.

All that been said, if it was a straight up Leinster v Munster at the RDS and both teams had last weekend off I think Leinster would be favorites and should win

The game last week just puts a question mark over everything

salmocab · 14-05-2019 11:20am

Akrasia wrote: »

This game is a bit of a lose lose for Munster. If we win, the leinster fans and all the 'pundits' will say munster only won because leinster are battered and depressed after last week's match

If we lose, it'll be because Munster are falling apart from the inside out

If it's a close game and leinster lose, the leinster fans will say Munster should have won by more because Leinster's heart wasn't in it, if it's a close game and Munster lose, it'll be Leinster who bravely overcame their loss last week and Munster bottled it.

If Munster hammer leinster (unlikely) it'll be because Leinster didn't turn up.

All that stuff is only true if you care what Leinster fans or the pundits think. Make up your own mind afterwards.

Erik Shun · 14-05-2019 6:34pm

I'd love to see Billy Holland win a medal this year, for that reason alone I hope we win Saturday...but we're underdogs, and deservedly so

Shefwedfan · 14-05-2019 8:06pm

I'd like to see Rob Kearney win a medal this year, for that reason alone I hope Leinster win......we need to fill up Rob's medal wardrobe

Erik Shun · 14-05-2019 8:20pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I'd like to see Rob Kearney win a medal this year, for that reason alone I hope Leinster win......we need to fill up Rob's medal wardrobe

Pah!... he's nuttin without his more talented brudder buddy

yerrahbah · 14-05-2019 11:09pm

Jump_In_Jack wrote: »

My prediction for the Munster selection:

1 David Kilcoyne
2 Niall Scannell
3 John Ryan
4 Jean Kleyn
5 Tadhg Beirne
6 Peter O'Mahony (c)
7 Chris Cloete
8 CJ Stander
9 Conor Murray
10 J. J. Hanrahan
11 Keith Earls
12 Rory Scannell
13 Chris Farrell
14 Andrew Conway
15 Michael Haley

16 Kevin O'Byrne
17 Liam O'Connor
18 Stephen Archer
19 Billy Holland
20 Arno Botha
21 Alby Mathewson
22 Tyler Bleyendaal
23 Darren Sweetnam

24th man Jack O'Donoghue
25th man Dan Goggin

I'd say Carbery will play, JJ and Goggin will bench,

I think we need to roll the dice and start Cloete over JOD,

He may give away a few penalties but he might get a few turnovers and in a match where we will be underdogs we need to take the chance that he'll do more of the latter than the former

Same with Carbery, we are just a much more dangerous team when hes on the pitch.

The Rape of Lucretia · 14-05-2019 11:55pm

With the wobble in the 6N, at best a wake-up call, and worst a dent to confidence and real chances in the world cup, and now Leinster clearly second in Europe, and so far no trophy to show for the country, Munster is going to have to yield to the greater good here and provide little trouble as they give Leinster the best shot at taking the P14. Leinster not winning it really would be a setback. For both Leinster, and paradoxically Munster.

Irish rugby in general, and the national team needs Leinster to salvage something for the country. The hint from the men in the smoke filled rooms may have gone out, although I think Munster are only too well aware of the situation anyway - their role on Saturday is to setup a Leinster win in the final. At the end of the day, that would be a win for everyone.

Had Leinster snaffled the win on Saturday, there would have been some wriggle room, and this weekends game could have been a genuine contest, the season already having been saved. But alas, twas not to be, and we must cut our coat according to our cloth.

yerrahbah · 15-05-2019 12:12am

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

With the wobble in the 6N, at best a wake-up call, and worst a dent to confidence and real chances in the world cup, and now Leinster clearly second in Europe, and so far no trophy to show for the country, Munster is going to have to yield to the greater good here and provide little trouble as they give Leinster the best shot at taking the P14. Leinster not winning it really would be a setback. For both Leinster, and paradoxically Munster.

Irish rugby in general, and the national team needs Leinster to salvage something for the country. The hint from the men in the smoke filled rooms may have gone out, although I think Munster are only too well aware of the situation anyway - their role on Saturday is to setup a Leinster win in the final. At the end of the day, that would be a win for everyone.

Had Leinster snaffled the win on Saturday, there would have been some wriggle room, and this weekends game could have been a genuine contest, the season already having been saved. But alas, twas not to be, and we must cut our coat according to our cloth.

And whats Ulster rugby's role in all this?

Mc Love · 15-05-2019 8:05am

Who?

Shefwedfan · 15-05-2019 8:58am

yerrahbah wrote: »

And whats Ulster rugby's role in all this?

What is this "Ulster rugby" you speak of?

Paul Smeenus · 15-05-2019 9:03am

yerrahbah wrote: »

And whats Ulster rugby's role in all this?

Ssssshhhh. Let the giants of comedy get on with clogging up the board, let us just fly under the radar and worry about the Glasgow game.

Shefwedfan · 15-05-2019 9:06am

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

Ssssshhhh. Let the giants of comedy get on with clogging up the board, let us just fly under the radar and worry about the Glasgow game.

It will be good for the lads to get a good run out before they return home to Leinster for the summer holidays :P

15-05-2019 10:25am

I think that's the place where that high profile rape trial took place

Zzippy · 15-05-2019 12:04pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think that's the place where that high profile rape trial took place

Not funny. Delete this please.

Mc Love · 15-05-2019 1:15pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I think that's the place where that high profile rape trial took place

Isnt it not where Maeve stole a brown bull

jm08 · 15-05-2019 3:13pm

Mc Love wrote: »

Isnt it not where Maeve stole a brown bull

No. That would be in Leinster's Cooleys!

fitz · 15-05-2019 8:06pm

[bantz] Munster are a bunch of bog-snorkeling, cousin-punching, potato munchers, and they'll get an absolute spanking at the weekend. [/bantz]

Am I doing this build-up thing right?

Erik Shun · 15-05-2019 8:46pm

fitz wrote: »

[bantz] Munster are a bunch of bog-snorkeling, cousin-punching, potato munchers, and they'll get an absolute spanking at the weekend. [/bantz]

Am I doing this build-up thing right?

A bit understated.. but give it another go...and add a little
of POM's Munster "intensity"...and you'll do splendidly!

mfceiling · 15-05-2019 8:59pm

Erik Shun wrote: »

A bit understated.. but give it another go...and add a little
of POM's Munster "intensity"...and you'll do splendidly!

You forgot "pashun".

The Rape of Lucretia · 15-05-2019 9:01pm

Erik Shun wrote: »

A bit understated.. but give it another go...and add a little
of POM's Munster "intensity"...and you'll do splendidly!

There is nothing wrong with POM's "intensity" and anyone who questions it should be strung up.
No, the weakness with Munster is with his 14 team mates who just leave it in the dressing room game after game, show no pride in the jersey, have no respect for their fans and the sacrifices they make travelling the country to support them and filling out Thomond at every opportunity, are blase about Munster and its rugby heritage that they havve been entrusted with, and especially, that the rest of them just dont want to know when things get tough and physical. There is just no stand up and fight about the rest of them.
Put POM, well, leave him out of it.

Erik Shun · 15-05-2019 9:07pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with POM's "intensity" and anyone who questions it should be strung up.
No, the weakness with Munster is with his 14 team mates who just leave it in the dressing room game after game, show no pride in the jersey, have no respect for their fans and the sacrifices they make travelling the country to support them and filling out Thomond at every opportunity, are blase about Munster and its rugby heritage that they havve been entrusted with, and especially, that the rest of them just dont want to know when things get tough and physical. There is just no stand up and fight about the rest of them.
Put POM, well, leave him out of it.

So..you're saying..no more Leinster cast offs in he team..14 more POM's and alls well?

AdamD · 15-05-2019 9:43pm

If only POM matched his pashun with work rate

fitz · 15-05-2019 9:59pm

AdamD wrote: »

If only POM matched his pashun with work rate

Yeah, pure lazy.

yerrahbah · 15-05-2019 10:12pm

Teams tomorrow at midday?

Munster team should be predictable enough with just doubts over Carbery and Earls.

What kind of Leinster team are people predicting?

degsie · 15-05-2019 10:13pm

yerrahbah wrote: »

What kind of Leinster team are people predicting?

A winning one!

15-05-2019 10:48pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with POM's "intensity" and anyone who questions it should be strung up.
No, the weakness with Munster is with his 14 team mates who just leave it in the dressing room game after game, show no pride in the jersey, have no respect for their fans and the sacrifices they make travelling the country to support them and filling out Thomond at every opportunity, are blase about Munster and its rugby heritage that they havve been entrusted with, and especially, that the rest of them just dont want to know when things get tough and physical. There is just no stand up and fight about the rest of them.
Put POM, well, leave him out of it.

Except when it’s a league game on a communion or confirmation day that happens to be sunny and coincides with some river festival.

Shefwedfan · 15-05-2019 11:08pm

yerrahbah wrote: »

Teams tomorrow at midday?

Munster team should be predictable enough with just doubts over Carbery and Earls.

What kind of Leinster team are people predicting?

15 men, wearing blue jersey....

dregin · 15-05-2019 11:16pm

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with POM's "intensity" and anyone who questions it should be strung up.
No, the weakness with Munster is with his 14 team mates who just leave it in the dressing room game after game, show no pride in the jersey, have no respect for their fans and the sacrifices they make travelling the country to support them and filling out Thomond at every opportunity, are blase about Munster and its rugby heritage that they havve been entrusted with, and especially, that the rest of them just dont want to know when things get tough and physical. There is just no stand up and fight about the rest of them.
Put POM, well, leave him out of it.

Utter ballox. Was it even half full for the Treviso match???

yerrahbah · 16-05-2019 12:17am

dregin wrote: »

Utter ballox. Was it even half full for the Treviso match???

I believe it's called trolling

Dave_The_Sheep · 16-05-2019 4:30am

yerrahbah wrote: »

I believe it's called trolling

It's in the name, after all.

Erik Shun · 16-05-2019 5:28am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Except when it’s a league game on a communion or confirmation day that happens to be sunny and coincides with some river festival.

I do believe you have suffered a major "whoosh" moment

bobbyss · 16-05-2019 7:24am

I don't know much about rugby but after the main final last week this fixture seems to me like an also rans game. Saracens are the men. After that game it doesn't really matter what Leinster do. Who cares about the result really. Both teams thumped by the champions.

salmocab · 16-05-2019 7:28am

bobbyss wrote: »

I don't know much about rugby.

I doubt many will argue this with you

Zzippy · 16-05-2019 10:00am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

15 men, wearing blue jersey....

Which one gets the jersey though?

shootermacg · 16-05-2019 10:23am

Allegedly Gary RR has suggested the Leinster team should change their names to Lorcan in a show of solidarity before the coming game.

He has allegedly said this is in no way an action to deflect the Dublin meedja from the absolute sh1t-show of a performance vs Sarries.

The scrum half, Lorcan McGrath allegedly fully supports this action.

Squidgy Black · 16-05-2019 10:28am

shootermacg wrote: »

Allegedly Gary RR has suggested the Leinster team should change their names to Lorcan in a show of solidarity before the coming game.

He has allegedly said this is in no way an action to deflect the Dublin meedja from the absolute sh1t-show of a performance vs Sarries.

The scrum half, Lorcan McGrath allegedly fully supports this action.

It's Garry excuse you. Extra R to show affluence.

connemara man · 16-05-2019 10:31am

shootermacg wrote: »

Allegedly Gary RR has suggested the Leinster team should change their names to Lorcan in a show of solidarity before the coming game.

He has allegedly said this is in no way an action to deflect the Dublin meedja from the absolute sh1t-show of a performance vs Sarries.

The scrum half, Lorcan McGrath allegedly fully supports this action.

Lorcans Vs Munster.

No one know what's going on

16-05-2019 11:03am

Erik Shun wrote: »

I do believe you have suffered a major "whoosh" moment

That’ll be a double “whoosh” for you then :rolleyes:

Squatter · 16-05-2019 11:10am

dregin wrote: »

Utter ballox. Was it even half full for the Treviso match???

In fairness, the supporters didn't need to turn up for that one. They knew that, no matter what happened, Nigel would see them through.

Squatter · 16-05-2019 11:20am

bobbyss wrote: »

I don't know much about rugby

That being the case, you'll fit in very well here. Indeed, the level of ignorance, allied to one-eyed, partisan, gibberish, may surprise you.

There are some honourable exceptions, of course, but one doesn't like to brag!

Leinster vs Munster - The buildup for the ages!

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