Leinster vs Munster - The buildup for the ages!

thomond2006 · 12-05-2019 12:51pm #1

Have at it.

Henry Ford III · 12-05-2019 12:59pm

This will be rubbish

thomond2006 · 12-05-2019 1:10pm

Munster will be just glad to be there and sure we'll see what happens. No expectations of anything really.

Erik Shun · 12-05-2019 1:12pm

Yes, a day out for Munster fans, hang sangiches and bottles of cold tae at the ready... we're just blessed to be there amongst the rugby gods of Leinster

Buer · 12-05-2019 1:21pm

Erik Shun wrote:

Yes, a day out for Munster fans, hang sangiches and bottles of cold tae at the ready... we're just blessed to be there amongst the rugby gods of Leinster

Don't forget your autograph book.

Erik Shun · 12-05-2019 1:27pm

Buer wrote: »

Don't forget your autograph book.

Ooh...good man, I'll use my 1989 Rose of Tralee autograph book with Sinead Boyle's taking pride of place... until of course.... I get Bobby K's

irishbucsfan · 12-05-2019 1:38pm

Wouldn’t be surprised if Leinster make a few changes.

Clegg · 12-05-2019 1:53pm

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Wouldn’t be surprised if Leinster make a few changes.

Would be good for Munster to get a look at the next batch of Leinster youth they'll be poaching.

j8wk2feszrnpao · 12-05-2019 1:54pm

Could see it going the same way as yesterday’s match, Leinster have the edge. Munster were terrible against Treviso, huge improvement required.
Might just be me, but these games are the grudge games they used to be. In a WC year, I’d be more concerned with a major injury to a key player.

sydthebeat · 12-05-2019 2:59pm

Munster cheated their way to this game.

molloyjh · 12-05-2019 4:24pm

Buer wrote: »

Erik Shun wrote:

Yes, a day out for Munster fans, hang sangiches and bottles of cold tae at the ready... we're just blessed to be there amongst the rugby gods of Leinster

Don't forget your autograph book.

A few of us will make ourselves available before and after for them. It's the least we can do.

Shefwedfan · 12-05-2019 7:13pm

I think we could potentially see a strong Leinster team, a lot of the player will want to make amend for the loss yesterday....

Most of the first team haven't a whole pile of rugby in last few months and they will have a few months off so might as well go full metal jacket.

Cronin won't be available. I doubt SOB will be fit but I bet he will try and make it for his last ever home game.

Maybe give J McGrath a start before he goes as well......

Jewelers · 12-05-2019 10:20pm

Bit of a sad baiting thread title bit like https://rugbylad.ie/

Re 'Most of the first team haven't a whole pile of rugby in last few months and they will have a few months off so might as well go full metal jacket '

that's why they lost yesterday , and it might be too late to go up against munster.

troyzer · 12-05-2019 10:24pm

I don't think anyone here would dispute that Munster are really struggling lately. By contrast, Leinster are so far ahead, even with the defeat yesterday.

One of two things will happen:

A) Leinster are really hurting. Physically and mentally and perhaps an injury or two. Munster smell weakness and push really hard. They're desperate for silverware.

Leinster are so ****ing furious and full of hateful rage that they absolute fist Munster by 20 points or more.

Shefwedfan · 12-05-2019 10:28pm

Jewelers wrote: »

Bit of a sad baiting thread title bit like https://rugbylad.ie/

Re 'Most of the first team haven't a whole pile of rugby in last few months and they will have a few months off so might as well go full metal jacket '

that's why they lost yesterday , and it might be too late to go up against munster.

What?

Jewelers · 12-05-2019 10:33pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

What?

what part are you having a

about

Jewelers · 12-05-2019 10:40pm

Clegg wrote: »

Would be good for Munster to get a look at the next batch of Leinster youth they'll be poaching.

nz youth , who else are you yabbering on about you all hate Beirne

Shefwedfan · 12-05-2019 10:57pm

Jewelers wrote: »

what part are you having a about

All of it to be honest, why you linking to rugbylad? Did you mean to link to a specific article?

Not sure also what you mean by that’s why they lost yesterday?

Jewelers · 12-05-2019 11:04pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

All of it to be honest, why you linking to rugbylad? Did you mean to link to a specific article?

Not sure also what you mean by that’s why they lost yesterday?

sorry have you on ig

thomond2006 · 12-05-2019 11:35pm

Please don't post links from that garbage clickbait site.

Burkie1203 · 13-05-2019 7:21am

molloyjh wrote: »

A few of us will make ourselves available before and after for them. It's the least we can do.

Bring your Cup Final ticket. Let the new generation of Munster fans see what they are like ðŸ˜‚

troyzer · 13-05-2019 8:04am

Burkie1203 wrote: »

molloyjh wrote: »

A few of us will make ourselves available before and after for them. It's the least we can do.

Bring your Cup Final ticket. Let the new generation of Munster fans see what they are like ðŸ˜‚

I'll do one better and bring my programme. Show them what a printed programme looks like. Back when they were in finals they were still handwritten in Latin on vellum.

Squidgy Black · 13-05-2019 9:06am

Can't wait to finally activate our sleeper agents that've been strategically placed into the Munster side.

Still can't believe that those turnip munchers honestly thought that people would voluntarily leave the leafy suburbs of D4 to go live so far away from real civilisation.

Sabre0001 · 13-05-2019 9:53am

Put Wycherley man marking Sexton and we'll be grand.

Buer · 13-05-2019 9:59am

I think this is purely going to depend on how quickly Leinster can recover mentally and physically. A few of Leinster's key players had hugely demanding games physically. Ryan and Conan put in big shifts on both sides of the ball, playing 80 minutes. Their bodies will be sore but luckily they're young enough where their bodies are going to bounce back.

I'd be more concerned with guys like Healy, Fardy, Toner and Sexton. I could see 2 or 3 of those lads being rotated out which makes sense. Ruddock to come into the back row and Toner or Fardy moving to the bench makes sense. If JGP is available, there's a real case for rotating him into the 23 also. Luke McGrath was absolutely dead on his feet for the final 15 minutes at the weekend. If JGP isn't available, we're looking at McGrath playing 80 minutes back to back.

Munster will have been waiting in the long grass for this one. Treviso will have been a good kick in the arse for them and they won't be lacking for physicality on the day, looking to twist the knife against some tired bodies. If Leinster can bring some quality defence, I think they'll win it by a score. Munster's ability to break down teams is still poor and that cannot change overnight. A lot will depend on the availability of Earls who always shows up for this fixture. Carbery will be an obvious boost too. But up front, they'll look to really put a stamp on the game knowing Leinster will be slightly the worse for wear in comparison to a side that has had 2 weeks off.

Kearney, Lowe, Ringrose, Henshaw, Larmour, Byrne, McGrath, Conan, SOB, Ruddock, Toner, Ryan, Furlong, Tracy, Healy.
Cronin/Byrne, Byrne, Porter, Fardy, Deegan, HOS, Sexton/Frawley, ROL

Leinster by 4.

Shefwedfan · 13-05-2019 10:45am

Sabre0001 wrote: »

Put Wycherley man marking Sexton and we'll be grand.

Sexton will just give him another clip around the ear

Jump_In_Jack · 13-05-2019 11:31am

My prediction for the Munster selection:

1 David Kilcoyne
2 Niall Scannell
3 John Ryan
4 Jean Kleyn
5 Tadhg Beirne
6 Peter O'Mahony (c)
7 Chris Cloete
8 CJ Stander
9 Conor Murray
10 J. J. Hanrahan
11 Keith Earls
12 Rory Scannell
13 Chris Farrell
14 Andrew Conway
15 Michael Haley

16 Kevin O'Byrne
17 Liam O'Connor
18 Stephen Archer
19 Billy Holland
20 Arno Botha
21 Alby Mathewson
22 Tyler Bleyendaal
23 Darren Sweetnam

24th man Jack O'Donoghue
25th man Dan Goggin

thomond2006 · 13-05-2019 1:09pm

Jump_In_Jack wrote: »

My prediction for the Munster selection:

1 David Kilcoyne
2 Niall Scannell
3 John Ryan
4 Jean Kleyn
5 Tadhg Beirne
6 Peter O'Mahony (c)
7 Chris Cloete
8 CJ Stander
9 Conor Murray
10 J. J. Hanrahan
11 Keith Earls
12 Rory Scannell
13 Chris Farrell
14 Andrew Conway
15 Michael Haley

16 Kevin O'Byrne
17 Liam O'Connor
18 Stephen Archer
19 Billy Holland
20 Arno Botha
21 Alby Mathewson
22 Tyler Bleyendaal
23 Darren Sweetnam

24th man Jack O'Donoghue
25th man Dan Goggin

Carbery is back in full training this week so I'd expect him to feature. Same for Rhys Marshall. Carbery was at the press preview today.

I wonder if centre needs to be looked at. Goggin has done well off the bench.

Burkie1203 · 13-05-2019 1:18pm

https://twitter.com/IndoSport/status/1127910553429716992?s=19

Jump_In_Jack · 13-05-2019 1:55pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Carbery is back in full training this week so I'd expect him to feature. Same for Rhys Marshall. Carbery was at the press preview today.

I wonder if centre needs to be looked at. Goggin has done well off the bench.

Yeah, I guess I was doubting that Carbery and Marshall would recover in time, from the announced squad update today it looks promising to have them back.

I certainly think Goggin has done enough to start at 12 ahead of Scannell It's just my opinion, but it seems to me that Scannell is carrying the ball into contact far too much and rarely getting any gains.
Goggin should be stronger in contact and looks hungry to get on the ball.
Otherwise they should be using Scannell to chip and grubber the ball behind the defensive line more often.

yosser hughes · 13-05-2019 1:59pm

How long has Carbery left on his contract with Munster? Did he sign an extension recently? I assume it will run out to coincide with Sexton's retirement.

Erik Shun · 13-05-2019 2:00pm

yosser hughes wrote: »

How long has Carbery left on his contract with Munster? Did he sign an extension recently? I assume it will run out to coincide with Sexton's retirement.

No, he's here for a few more years, 2022 ... Sexton will be retired by then

Clegg · 13-05-2019 2:53pm

VdF is the bionic man.

Mr Tickle · 13-05-2019 3:13pm

Clegg wrote: »

VdF is the bionic man.

I know Leinster will want him playing and He'll want to get on the pitch but the medical staff would want to be really very extra sure he's ok before i'd send him into this game.
For all the talk about the bite being gone from the interpros i can't see this game being like anything other than a Marvel fight scene.
For that matter can the thread name be changed to "Leinster v Munster: We're in the endgame now"

Shefwedfan · 13-05-2019 4:06pm

yosser hughes wrote: »

How long has Carbery left on his contract with Munster? Did he sign an extension recently? I assume it will run out to coincide with Sexton's retirement.

Sexton said he would retire after next Lions tour in 2021

Carberry signed up till 2022.

Sheep Shagger · 13-05-2019 4:36pm

Now sold out - incl temporary seating

13-05-2019 5:07pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Sexton said he would retire after next Lions tour in 2021

Carberry signed up till 2022.

Did he?

fonecrusher1 · 13-05-2019 5:14pm

Bring it on.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/rugby/joey-carbery-and-keith-earls-look-set-to-return-for-munster-leinster-semi-final-923860.html

Shefwedfan · 13-05-2019 5:21pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Did he?

Made indications he would....

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/lions-tour/youre-just-one-injury-away-thats-the-scary-part-about-being-a-rugby-player-johnny-sexton-sets-an-ideal-retirement-date-36970433.html

Sorry he didn't exactly some out and say it, it was at something else he said he wanted to make the Lions tour as well

Erik Shun · 13-05-2019 6:51pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Made indications he would....

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/lions-tour/youre-just-one-injury-away-thats-the-scary-part-about-being-a-rugby-player-johnny-sexton-sets-an-ideal-retirement-date-36970433.html

Sorry he didn't exactly some out and say it, it was at something else he said he wanted to make the Lions tour as well

Realistically, he'll be 34 before the world cup...the lion's tour is 2 years after that.... there's no guarantee he'll be first choice for Ireland then, let alone a Lion's contender

Exclamation Marc · 13-05-2019 7:49pm

Mike Adamson appointed as referee for the game.

First SRU match official to take charge of knock-out game since they were re-introduced to the Championship in 2010.

swiwi_ · 13-05-2019 7:55pm

IMHO Leinster should (sensibly) ring the changes. I don't see the same starting XV from the weekend backing up against what will be a highly motivated Munster side. The lads who didn't make the 15/23 will be chomping at the bit. Obviously, you can't put out a B side, but there are some players who could slot in for sure without really weakening things too much.

slingerz · 13-05-2019 8:12pm

swiwi_ wrote: »

IMHO Leinster should (sensibly) ring the changes. I don't see the same starting XV from the weekend backing up against what will be a highly motivated Munster side. The lads who didn't make the 15/23 will be chomping at the bit. Obviously, you can't put out a B side, but there are some players who could slot in for sure without really weakening things too much.

I'd expect some changes probably Byrne for Sexton, Ruddock for Fardy with Kearney coming onto the bench, VDF for SOB. Gibson Park for O'Sullivan on the bench with Frawley covering 10.

Shefwedfan · 13-05-2019 8:30pm

swiwi_ wrote: »

IMHO Leinster should (sensibly) ring the changes. I don't see the same starting XV from the weekend backing up against what will be a highly motivated Munster side. The lads who didn't make the 15/23 will be chomping at the bit. Obviously, you can't put out a B side, but there are some players who could slot in for sure without really weakening things too much.

I would expect the 15 that went on the pitch last week will be chomping at the bit to correct the errors they made last week....

This is potentially their last game of any significants till the World Cup if they lose....I can't see many of them wanting to sit this one out....They need to be capable of playing a Qtr and then a WC semi in a short period.

Exclamation Marc · 13-05-2019 8:39pm

swiwi_ wrote: »

IMHO Leinster should (sensibly) ring the changes. I don't see the same starting XV from the weekend backing up against what will be a highly motivated Munster side. The lads who didn't make the 15/23 will be chomping at the bit. Obviously, you can't put out a B side, but there are some players who could slot in for sure without really weakening things too much.

Maybe 12/15 or thereabouts will start. The first string should and will start (for the most part).

shootermacg · 13-05-2019 9:53pm

I'd like to see Goggin get the start. Every bloody pundit rolls out "educated left peg" when talking about scannell. Yeah educated at kicking a ball out on the full!
Goggin is actually the bigger man and I'd say his kicking game is actually better and his passing game. Scannell is probably the better defender though.

AdamD · 13-05-2019 10:35pm

The Leinster team have had huge amounts of rest since the 6n. No reason they can't play 2 big matches in 2 weeks.

stephen_n · 14-05-2019 8:13am

I’d expect very few changes to the starting 15. Lowe might drop out if JGP is fit, possibly with Luke moving to the bench. Ruddock might start with Fardy dropping to the bench. If Sexton isn’t injured there’s no way he’s not starting a semifinal. Kearney took a bad knock at the end of the game on Saturday and was down for a long time, so he could be a doubt.

aloooof · 14-05-2019 9:20am

shootermacg wrote: »

I'd like to see Goggin get the start. Every bloody pundit rolls out "educated left peg" when talking about scannell. Yeah educated at kicking a ball out on the full!
Goggin is actually the bigger man and I'd say his kicking game is actually better and his passing game. Scannell is probably the better defender though.

I'd be a fan of Goggin, but honestly don't think his kicking game is anywhere near as good as Scannell's. He's had a great season tho, I'd have no issues with him starting, but I expect we'll see him in the 23 jersey.

slingerz · 14-05-2019 9:26am

stephen_n wrote: »

I’d expect very few changes to the starting 15. Lowe might drop out if JGP is fit, possibly with Luke moving to the bench. Ruddock might start with Fardy dropping to the bench. If Sexton isn’t injured there’s no way he’s not starting a semifinal. Kearney took a bad knock at the end of the game on Saturday and was down for a long time, so he could be a doubt.

Ross Byrne will have to start this game. After not getting on the pitch last week, to be on the sidelines again for a big game you wouldnt be surprised if he looked at pastures new

thomond2006 · 14-05-2019 9:38am

For some context, here were the lineups from last season. I think Henshaw and Sexton didn't play against Munster due to injury?

Leinster vs Racing:
15. Rob Kearney (195)
14. Jordan Larmour (19)
13. Garry Ringrose (47)
12. Robbie Henshaw (23)
11. Isa Nacewa (182) CAPTAIN
10. Johnny Sexton (146)
9. Luke McGrath (92)

1. Cian Healy (188)
2. Seán Cronin (150)
3. Tadhg Furlong (81)
4. Devin Toner (215)
5. James Ryan (12)
6. Scott Fardy (19)
7. Dan Leavy (52)
8. Jordi Murphy (104)

16. James Tracy (63)
17. Jack McGrath (130)
18. Andrew Porter (27)
19. Rhys Ruddock (140)
20. Jack Conan (71)
21. Jamison Gibson-Park (50)
22. Joey Carbery (35)
23. Rory O’Loughlin (40)

Leinster vs Munster
15. Joey Carbery (35)
14. Jordan Larmour (20)
13. Garry Ringrose (48)
12. Isa Nacewa (183) CAPTAIN
11. James Lowe (11)
10. Ross Byrne (48)
9. Luke McGrath (93)

1. Jack McGrath (131)
2. Seán Cronin (151)
3. Tadhg Furlong (82)
4. Devin Toner (216)
5. James Ryan (13)
6. Rhys Ruddock (140)
7. Jordi Murphy (105)
8. Jack Conan (72)

16. James Tracy (64)
17. Cian Healy (189)
18. Andrew Porter (28)
19. Scott Fardy (20)
20. Max Deegan (20)
21. Nick McCarthy (26)
22. Rory O’Loughlin (40)
23. Barry Daly (26)

Leinster vs Munster - The buildup for the ages!

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