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Leinster vs Munster - The buildup for the ages!

  • 12-05-2019 11:51am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Have at it.


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 17,843 Mod ✭✭✭✭Henry Ford III


    This will be rubbish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Munster will be just glad to be there and sure we'll see what happens. No expectations of anything really.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Erik Shun


    Yes, a day out for Munster fans, hang sangiches and bottles of cold tae at the ready... we're just blessed to be there amongst the rugby gods of Leinster


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Erik Shun wrote:
    Yes, a day out for Munster fans, hang sangiches and bottles of cold tae at the ready... we're just blessed to be there amongst the rugby gods of Leinster

    Don't forget your autograph book.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Erik Shun


    Buer wrote: »
    Don't forget your autograph book.

    Ooh...good man, I'll use my 1989 Rose of Tralee autograph book with Sinead Boyle's taking pride of place... until of course.... I get Bobby K's


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,978 ✭✭✭✭irishbucsfan


    Wouldn’t be surprised if Leinster make a few changes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    Wouldn’t be surprised if Leinster make a few changes.

    Would be good for Munster to get a look at the next batch of Leinster youth they'll be poaching.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,438 ✭✭✭j8wk2feszrnpao


    Could see it going the same way as yesterday’s match, Leinster have the edge. Munster were terrible against Treviso, huge improvement required.
    Might just be me, but these games are the grudge games they used to be. In a WC year, I’d be more concerned with a major injury to a key player.


  • Subscribers Posts: 42,134 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Munster cheated their way to this game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Buer wrote: »
    Erik Shun wrote:
    Yes, a day out for Munster fans, hang sangiches and bottles of cold tae at the ready... we're just blessed to be there amongst the rugby gods of Leinster

    Don't forget your autograph book.

    A few of us will make ourselves available before and after for them. It's the least we can do.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    I think we could potentially see a strong Leinster team, a lot of the player will want to make amend for the loss yesterday....

    Most of the first team haven't a whole pile of rugby in last few months and they will have a few months off so might as well go full metal jacket.

    Cronin won't be available. I doubt SOB will be fit but I bet he will try and make it for his last ever home game.

    Maybe give J McGrath a start before he goes as well......


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭Jewelers


    Bit of a sad baiting thread title bit like https://rugbylad.ie/




    Re 'Most of the first team haven't a whole pile of rugby in last few months and they will have a few months off so might as well go full metal jacket '


    that's why they lost yesterday , and it might be too late to go up against munster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭troyzer


    I don't think anyone here would dispute that Munster are really struggling lately. By contrast, Leinster are so far ahead, even with the defeat yesterday.

    One of two things will happen:

    A) Leinster are really hurting. Physically and mentally and perhaps an injury or two. Munster smell weakness and push really hard. They're desperate for silverware.

    B) Leinster are so ****ing furious and full of hateful rage that they absolute fist Munster by 20 points or more.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Jewelers wrote: »
    Bit of a sad baiting thread title bit like https://rugbylad.ie/


    Re 'Most of the first team haven't a whole pile of rugby in last few months and they will have a few months off so might as well go full metal jacket '


    that's why they lost yesterday , and it might be too late to go up against munster.


    What? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭Jewelers


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    What? :confused:

    what part are you having a :confused: about


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭Jewelers


    Clegg wrote: »
    Would be good for Munster to get a look at the next batch of Leinster youth they'll be poaching.

    nz youth , who else are you yabbering on about you all hate Beirne


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Jewelers wrote: »
    what part are you having a :confused: about

    All of it to be honest, why you linking to rugbylad? Did you mean to link to a specific article?

    Not sure also what you mean by that’s why they lost yesterday?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭Jewelers


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    All of it to be honest, why you linking to rugbylad? Did you mean to link to a specific article?

    Not sure also what you mean by that’s why they lost yesterday?

    sorry have you on ig :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    Please don't post links from that garbage clickbait site.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    molloyjh wrote: »
    A few of us will make ourselves available before and after for them. It's the least we can do.

    Bring your Cup Final ticket. Let the new generation of Munster fans see what they are like 😂


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,201 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Burkie1203 wrote: »
    molloyjh wrote: »
    A few of us will make ourselves available before and after for them. It's the least we can do.

    Bring your Cup Final ticket. Let the new generation of Munster fans see what they are like 😂

    I'll do one better and bring my programme. Show them what a printed programme looks like. Back when they were in finals they were still handwritten in Latin on vellum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,737 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Can't wait to finally activate our sleeper agents that've been strategically placed into the Munster side.

    Still can't believe that those turnip munchers honestly thought that people would voluntarily leave the leafy suburbs of D4 to go live so far away from real civilisation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    Put Wycherley man marking Sexton and we'll be grand.

    🤪



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,258 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    I think this is purely going to depend on how quickly Leinster can recover mentally and physically. A few of Leinster's key players had hugely demanding games physically. Ryan and Conan put in big shifts on both sides of the ball, playing 80 minutes. Their bodies will be sore but luckily they're young enough where their bodies are going to bounce back.

    I'd be more concerned with guys like Healy, Fardy, Toner and Sexton. I could see 2 or 3 of those lads being rotated out which makes sense. Ruddock to come into the back row and Toner or Fardy moving to the bench makes sense. If JGP is available, there's a real case for rotating him into the 23 also. Luke McGrath was absolutely dead on his feet for the final 15 minutes at the weekend. If JGP isn't available, we're looking at McGrath playing 80 minutes back to back.

    Munster will have been waiting in the long grass for this one. Treviso will have been a good kick in the arse for them and they won't be lacking for physicality on the day, looking to twist the knife against some tired bodies. If Leinster can bring some quality defence, I think they'll win it by a score. Munster's ability to break down teams is still poor and that cannot change overnight. A lot will depend on the availability of Earls who always shows up for this fixture. Carbery will be an obvious boost too. But up front, they'll look to really put a stamp on the game knowing Leinster will be slightly the worse for wear in comparison to a side that has had 2 weeks off.

    Kearney, Lowe, Ringrose, Henshaw, Larmour, Byrne, McGrath, Conan, SOB, Ruddock, Toner, Ryan, Furlong, Tracy, Healy.
    Cronin/Byrne, Byrne, Porter, Fardy, Deegan, HOS, Sexton/Frawley, ROL

    Leinster by 4.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Sabre0001 wrote: »
    Put Wycherley man marking Sexton and we'll be grand.


    Sexton will just give him another clip around the ear ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,865 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    My prediction for the Munster selection:

    1 David Kilcoyne
    2 Niall Scannell
    3 John Ryan
    4 Jean Kleyn
    5 Tadhg Beirne
    6 Peter O'Mahony (c)
    7 Chris Cloete
    8 CJ Stander
    9 Conor Murray
    10 J. J. Hanrahan
    11 Keith Earls
    12 Rory Scannell
    13 Chris Farrell
    14 Andrew Conway
    15 Michael Haley

    16 Kevin O'Byrne
    17 Liam O'Connor
    18 Stephen Archer
    19 Billy Holland
    20 Arno Botha
    21 Alby Mathewson
    22 Tyler Bleyendaal
    23 Darren Sweetnam

    24th man Jack O'Donoghue
    25th man Dan Goggin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    My prediction for the Munster selection:

    1 David Kilcoyne
    2 Niall Scannell
    3 John Ryan
    4 Jean Kleyn
    5 Tadhg Beirne
    6 Peter O'Mahony (c)
    7 Chris Cloete
    8 CJ Stander
    9 Conor Murray
    10 J. J. Hanrahan
    11 Keith Earls
    12 Rory Scannell
    13 Chris Farrell
    14 Andrew Conway
    15 Michael Haley

    16 Kevin O'Byrne
    17 Liam O'Connor
    18 Stephen Archer
    19 Billy Holland
    20 Arno Botha
    21 Alby Mathewson
    22 Tyler Bleyendaal
    23 Darren Sweetnam

    24th man Jack O'Donoghue
    25th man Dan Goggin

    Carbery is back in full training this week so I'd expect him to feature. Same for Rhys Marshall. Carbery was at the press preview today.

    I wonder if centre needs to be looked at. Goggin has done well off the bench.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,865 ✭✭✭Jump_In_Jack


    Carbery is back in full training this week so I'd expect him to feature. Same for Rhys Marshall. Carbery was at the press preview today.

    I wonder if centre needs to be looked at. Goggin has done well off the bench.

    Yeah, I guess I was doubting that Carbery and Marshall would recover in time, from the announced squad update today it looks promising to have them back.

    I certainly think Goggin has done enough to start at 12 ahead of Scannell It's just my opinion, but it seems to me that Scannell is carrying the ball into contact far too much and rarely getting any gains.
    Goggin should be stronger in contact and looks hungry to get on the ball.
    Otherwise they should be using Scannell to chip and grubber the ball behind the defensive line more often.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,918 ✭✭✭yosser hughes


    How long has Carbery left on his contract with Munster? Did he sign an extension recently? I assume it will run out to coincide with Sexton's retirement.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Erik Shun


    How long has Carbery left on his contract with Munster? Did he sign an extension recently? I assume it will run out to coincide with Sexton's retirement.

    No, he's here for a few more years, 2022 ... Sexton will be retired by then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Clegg


    VdF is the bionic man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭Mr Tickle


    Clegg wrote: »
    VdF is the bionic man.

    I know Leinster will want him playing and He'll want to get on the pitch but the medical staff would want to be really very extra sure he's ok before i'd send him into this game.
    For all the talk about the bite being gone from the interpros i can't see this game being like anything other than a Marvel fight scene.
    For that matter can the thread name be changed to "Leinster v Munster: We're in the endgame now"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    How long has Carbery left on his contract with Munster? Did he sign an extension recently? I assume it will run out to coincide with Sexton's retirement.


    Sexton said he would retire after next Lions tour in 2021


    Carberry signed up till 2022.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 6,735 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sheep Shagger


    Now sold out - incl temporary seating


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    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Sexton said he would retire after next Lions tour in 2021


    Carberry signed up till 2022.

    Did he?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,706 ✭✭✭fonecrusher1




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Did he?


    Made indications he would....


    https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/lions-tour/youre-just-one-injury-away-thats-the-scary-part-about-being-a-rugby-player-johnny-sexton-sets-an-ideal-retirement-date-36970433.html


    Sorry he didn't exactly some out and say it, it was at something else he said he wanted to make the Lions tour as well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Erik Shun


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Made indications he would....


    https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/lions-tour/youre-just-one-injury-away-thats-the-scary-part-about-being-a-rugby-player-johnny-sexton-sets-an-ideal-retirement-date-36970433.html


    Sorry he didn't exactly some out and say it, it was at something else he said he wanted to make the Lions tour as well

    Realistically, he'll be 34 before the world cup...the lion's tour is 2 years after that.... there's no guarantee he'll be first choice for Ireland then, let alone a Lion's contender


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,784 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Mike Adamson appointed as referee for the game.

    First SRU match official to take charge of knock-out game since they were re-introduced to the Championship in 2010.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,514 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    IMHO Leinster should (sensibly) ring the changes. I don't see the same starting XV from the weekend backing up against what will be a highly motivated Munster side. The lads who didn't make the 15/23 will be chomping at the bit. Obviously, you can't put out a B side, but there are some players who could slot in for sure without really weakening things too much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,294 ✭✭✭slingerz


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    IMHO Leinster should (sensibly) ring the changes. I don't see the same starting XV from the weekend backing up against what will be a highly motivated Munster side. The lads who didn't make the 15/23 will be chomping at the bit. Obviously, you can't put out a B side, but there are some players who could slot in for sure without really weakening things too much.

    I'd expect some changes probably Byrne for Sexton, Ruddock for Fardy with Kearney coming onto the bench, VDF for SOB. Gibson Park for O'Sullivan on the bench with Frawley covering 10.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    IMHO Leinster should (sensibly) ring the changes. I don't see the same starting XV from the weekend backing up against what will be a highly motivated Munster side. The lads who didn't make the 15/23 will be chomping at the bit. Obviously, you can't put out a B side, but there are some players who could slot in for sure without really weakening things too much.


    I would expect the 15 that went on the pitch last week will be chomping at the bit to correct the errors they made last week....


    This is potentially their last game of any significants till the World Cup if they lose....I can't see many of them wanting to sit this one out....They need to be capable of playing a Qtr and then a WC semi in a short period.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,784 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    IMHO Leinster should (sensibly) ring the changes. I don't see the same starting XV from the weekend backing up against what will be a highly motivated Munster side. The lads who didn't make the 15/23 will be chomping at the bit. Obviously, you can't put out a B side, but there are some players who could slot in for sure without really weakening things too much.

    Maybe 12/15 or thereabouts will start. The first string should and will start (for the most part).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,857 ✭✭✭shootermacg


    I'd like to see Goggin get the start. Every bloody pundit rolls out "educated left peg" when talking about scannell. Yeah educated at kicking a ball out on the full!
    Goggin is actually the bigger man and I'd say his kicking game is actually better and his passing game. Scannell is probably the better defender though.


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    The Leinster team have had huge amounts of rest since the 6n. No reason they can't play 2 big matches in 2 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,920 ✭✭✭✭stephen_n


    I’d expect very few changes to the starting 15. Lowe might drop out if JGP is fit, possibly with Luke moving to the bench. Ruddock might start with Fardy dropping to the bench. If Sexton isn’t injured there’s no way he’s not starting a semifinal. Kearney took a bad knock at the end of the game on Saturday and was down for a long time, so he could be a doubt.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,083 Mod ✭✭✭✭aloooof


    I'd like to see Goggin get the start. Every bloody pundit rolls out "educated left peg" when talking about scannell. Yeah educated at kicking a ball out on the full!
    Goggin is actually the bigger man and I'd say his kicking game is actually better and his passing game. Scannell is probably the better defender though.

    I'd be a fan of Goggin, but honestly don't think his kicking game is anywhere near as good as Scannell's. He's had a great season tho, I'd have no issues with him starting, but I expect we'll see him in the 23 jersey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,294 ✭✭✭slingerz


    stephen_n wrote: »
    I’d expect very few changes to the starting 15. Lowe might drop out if JGP is fit, possibly with Luke moving to the bench. Ruddock might start with Fardy dropping to the bench. If Sexton isn’t injured there’s no way he’s not starting a semifinal. Kearney took a bad knock at the end of the game on Saturday and was down for a long time, so he could be a doubt.

    Ross Byrne will have to start this game. After not getting on the pitch last week, to be on the sidelines again for a big game you wouldnt be surprised if he looked at pastures new


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    For some context, here were the lineups from last season. I think Henshaw and Sexton didn't play against Munster due to injury?

    Leinster vs Racing:
    15. Rob Kearney (195)
    14. Jordan Larmour (19)
    13. Garry Ringrose (47)
    12. Robbie Henshaw (23)
    11. Isa Nacewa (182) CAPTAIN
    10. Johnny Sexton (146)
    9. Luke McGrath (92)

    1. Cian Healy (188)
    2. Seán Cronin (150)
    3. Tadhg Furlong (81)
    4. Devin Toner (215)
    5. James Ryan (12)
    6. Scott Fardy (19)
    7. Dan Leavy (52)
    8. Jordi Murphy (104)

    16. James Tracy (63)
    17. Jack McGrath (130)
    18. Andrew Porter (27)
    19. Rhys Ruddock (140)
    20. Jack Conan (71)
    21. Jamison Gibson-Park (50)
    22. Joey Carbery (35)
    23. Rory O’Loughlin (40)

    Leinster vs Munster
    15. Joey Carbery (35)
    14. Jordan Larmour (20)
    13. Garry Ringrose (48)
    12. Isa Nacewa (183) CAPTAIN
    11. James Lowe (11)
    10. Ross Byrne (48)
    9. Luke McGrath (93)

    1. Jack McGrath (131)
    2. Seán Cronin (151)
    3. Tadhg Furlong (82)
    4. Devin Toner (216)
    5. James Ryan (13)
    6. Rhys Ruddock (140)
    7. Jordi Murphy (105)
    8. Jack Conan (72)

    16. James Tracy (64)
    17. Cian Healy (189)
    18. Andrew Porter (28)
    19. Scott Fardy (20)
    20. Max Deegan (20)
    21. Nick McCarthy (26)
    22. Rory O’Loughlin (40)
    23. Barry Daly (26)


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