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27-03-2020 6:19pm

There are reasons.

Hogzy · 27-03-2020 6:49pm

foreign wrote: »

There are reasons.

Very philosophical! :pac:

POGAN · 27-03-2020 7:44pm

Hogzy wrote: »

I never understand why its unmarked cars leading those chases! Nearly every video iv seen of a garda chase in Ireland is lead by an unmarked car. Surely it makes sense from a safety point of view to have a traffic corps car lead the chase in a vehicle that is lit up like a Christmas tree!

Chase policy would be nice in Ireland too... K has lot of unmarks.

But qs is that who has cbd3 or cbd2 in the chase

Hogzy · 27-03-2020 9:02pm

POGAN wrote: »

Chase policy would be nice in Ireland too... K has lot of unmarks.

But qs is that who has cbd3 or cbd2 in the chase

Fair point, policy wise, are you not allowed take part in a chase at all if you dont have those qualifications? Or is it sort of, loose enough (if you catch my drift).

Sgt. Bilko 09 · 29-03-2020 12:37am

Hogzy wrote: »

Fair point, policy wise, are you not allowed take part in a chase at all if you dont have those qualifications? Or is it sort of, loose enough (if you catch my drift).

If you happen to see some of the clips of that pursuit you would notice a marked i40 with no blue lights on letting other patrol cars overtake on the ballymun road.
That was a CBD1 driver, they were the first marked unit to assist and the last to arrive at scene went it stopped. The unmarked primary was the first car that was hit so it had damage taken, it was more plausible at the time to leave it in primary due low civilian traffic and no pedestrian. I can’t say what unit it was but it was probably best they were number one given the equipment onboard the suspects vehicle.

punisher5112 · 29-03-2020 10:27am

I honestly hope they start fitting better lights as the unmarked units are near invisible for lighting but stand out a mile.....

The grills are different to most civilian, the lights in the grill are obvious as is dash light, Arial on the roof, rear lights only seen if you stand 45° to the side of the car.....

Oh yeah the steel wheels make it stand out even more too.

Some don't even have the dash lights.....

Capri · 29-03-2020 12:21pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

I honestly hope they start fitting better lights as the unmarked units are near invisible for lighting but stand out a mile.....

The grills are different to most civilian, the lights in the grill are obvious as is dash light, Arial on the roof, rear lights only seen if you stand 45° to the side of the car.....

Oh yeah the steel wheels make it stand out even more too.

Some don't even have the dash lights.....

The Insignia estates have (factory fitted?) lights blended into the pillars of the hatch, very subtle but light up bright.Early i40's weren't great at the
rear, some improvements on the 201's at the rear. Interesting to know who's responsible for the bad lighting...in the UK it's checked out on the road before being approved:cool:

punisher5112 · 29-03-2020 12:59pm

Capri wrote: »

The Insignia estates have (factory fitted?) lights blended into the pillars of the hatch, very subtle but light up bright.Early i40's weren't great at the
rear, some improvements on the 201's at the rear. Interesting to know who's responsible for the bad lighting...in the UK it's checked out on the road before being approved:cool:

I contacted the actual engineer around 2017 to ask and he stated it's EU passed....

So basically to stay covert they don't fit adequate lighting....

29-03-2020 12:59pm

Capri wrote: »

Interesting to know who's responsible for the bad lighting...

Civilian

California Dreamer · 29-03-2020 1:15pm

foreign wrote: »

Civilian

With very limited budgets I would imagine!

29-03-2020 1:24pm

California Dreamer wrote: »

With very limited budgets I would imagine!

Wouldn't cost much to stick in two red LED'S. if they ever did a traffic stop during the day and had cars queuing behind them or tried to move through a busy junction they'd be quick enough to put the extras in.

punisher5112 · 29-03-2020 1:42pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Wouldn't cost much to stick in two red LED'S. if they ever did a traffic stop during the day and had cars queuing behind them or tried to move through a busy junction they'd be quick enough to put the extras in.

The rear fogs could easily be switched to flash as could the front high beams and so on...

California Dreamer · 29-03-2020 2:00pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

The rear fogs could easily be switched to flash as could the front high beams and so on...

I have a pair of wig-wags on my van when working on sites. Got the relay on ebay

California Dreamer · 31-03-2020 9:13pm

What comes after the i40s?

Sexual Chocolate · 31-03-2020 9:22pm

Skodas I thought ?

delly · 31-03-2020 10:13pm

The cycle unit? The mounted unit? Basically anything else that is non motorised.

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

Skodas I thought ?

Ah sorry, I thought he meant in the context of a chase.

Sexual Chocolate · 31-03-2020 10:15pm

delly wrote: »

The cycle unit? The mounted unit? Basically anything else that is non motorised.

Ah sorry, I thought he meant in the context of a chase.

I think the i40s are finishing production soon. Or so I heard.

punisher5112 · 31-03-2020 10:57pm

Sexual Chocolate wrote: »

I think the i40s are finishing production soon. Or so I heard.

Tucson or i20 wouldn't surprise me to be honest it's Ireland....

Sure they bought a sh1t ton of i30 and then find oh the equipment doesn't fit.... Eh well it did in the focus or Mondeo

POGAN · 31-03-2020 11:05pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

Tucson or i20 wouldn't surprise me to be honest it's Ireland....

Sure they bought a sh1t ton of i30 and then find oh the equipment doesn't fit.... Eh well it did in the focus or Mondeo

You’re correct i40s are finishing! Lots of new estates white in the port at moment looks like they are buying large amount them

Tuscan will replacement them that’s why they are adding time in cbd2 for driving them too

California Dreamer · 01-04-2020 7:10am

Tuscon wouldn't be bad. I think the ride height is important. They strike me as being a bit better than the i40 anyway, could be completely wrong of course.

So Octavia/Superb for the unmarked units?

POGAN · 01-04-2020 7:35am

California Dreamer wrote: »

Tuscon wouldn't be bad. I think the ride height is important. They strike me as being a bit better than the i40 anyway, could be completely wrong of course.

So Octavia/Superb for the unmarked units?

They are both the same really drive both not meant for police work.

Skoda superb part of the new contract is up in the air specialised units are getting few unmakes since last year but issue is the driving cert needed for them so not open to regular anyway

Few unmarked mondeo around so might be getting few marked but that’s the rumour

California Dreamer · 01-04-2020 7:42am

POGAN wrote: »

They are both the same really drive both not meant for police work.

Skoda superb part of the new contract is up in the air specialised units are getting few unmakes since last year but issue is the driving cert needed for them so not open to regular anyway

Few unmarked mondeo around so might be getting few marked but that’s the rumour

Wait till you see when we come out of the CV thing, there won't be money for anything!

01-04-2020 8:29am

Tuscon was added to the driving course because of their introduction to traffic units.

I'd put money on the next patrol car being the Peugeot 308 like the UK.

We've got their public order vans and I've seen some smaller unmarked vans too. Saw a Dublin City Council van from them too on a 192 reg.

carzony · 01-04-2020 2:49pm

The I40 seems to have been a very successful car for private ownership, they are everywhere to be seen.
I like the Mondeo but i'd guess they'd be too slow/bulky for policing work and of course expensive.

punisher5112 · 01-04-2020 3:12pm

carzony wrote: »

The I40 seems to have been a very successful car for private ownership, they are everywhere to be seen.
I like the Mondeo but i'd guess they'd be too slow/bulky for policing work and of course expensive.

People bought because cheap.

They have given huge gearbox, clutch issues.

CharlieCroker · 01-04-2020 3:27pm

carzony wrote: »

The I40 seems to have been a very successful car for private ownership, they are everywhere to be seen.
I like the Mondeo but i'd guess they'd be too slow/bulky for policing work and of course expensive.

Mondeo was the best patrol we had. Hoping they buy a ball of them when they stop production next year.

DAVE1972 · 01-04-2020 4:05pm

those octavias are very uncomfortable , the superb excellent , perhaps opel insignias
also base diesel Mondeo is very under powered , titanium model minimum , maybe time for opel again , the 152 insignias they had were super I had 1 myself 2.0 140bph
I now have 191 insignia , quite pleased with

carzony · 01-04-2020 5:14pm

DAVE1972 wrote: »

those octavias are very uncomfortable , the superb excellent , perhaps opel insignias
also base diesel Mondeo is very under powered , titanium model minimum , maybe time for opel again , the 152 insignias they had were super I had 1 myself 2.0 140bph
I now have 191 insignia , quite pleased with

Where are thr 152 Insignias? I haven't seen any in a while.
Surely they're still in service?

DAVE1972 · 01-04-2020 5:28pm

all unmarked , have seen one at a checkpoint on garda twitter also seen 1 in cork not so long ago , all machine grey in solour

01-04-2020 5:38pm

DAVE1972 wrote: »

all unmarked , have seen one at a checkpoint on garda twitter also seen 1 in cork not so long ago , all machine grey in solour

And the marked traffic corp ones too.

DAVE1972 · 01-04-2020 5:45pm

Plenty of the 142 traffic , terrific car 200bhp . since Hyundai got the contract for patrol cars its been pretty boring fleet outside of armed support units, I was on RTE archives recently and its was in 1970s & 80s old style blue and traffic cars , all kinds of models sierra carina ascona corolla Renault 4 & 18s , montego , maestro , fiat mirafiori etc I could go on . i

POGAN · 01-04-2020 6:11pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Tuscon was added to the driving course because of their introduction to traffic units.

I'd put money on the next patrol car being the Peugeot 308 like the UK.

We've got their public order vans and I've seen some smaller unmarked vans too. Saw a Dublin City Council van from them too on a 192 reg.

Yes agreed that’s why but better train all is good idea.

You really love Peugeot’s ðŸ˜‚ they have 4 years left of Hyundai contract

01-04-2020 7:33pm

POGAN wrote: »

Yes agreed that’s why but better train all is good idea.

You really love Peugeot’s ðŸ˜‚ they have 4 years left of Hyundai contract

Grand if they can supply them. The contract would be for a class of vehicle, not a brand. If they can't supply the class then move on. There is a list of approved vehicles for each class.

Old diesel · 01-04-2020 8:16pm

CharlieCroker wrote: »

Mondeo was the best patrol we had. Hoping they buy a ball of them when they stop production next year.

Mk 5s (current model) are generally a disappointment to anyone that loved the Mk 3 and 4 Mondeo's.

Built with a US focus (It's US sister car was the Ford Fusion) in the wider design.

The handling isn't up to what was the traditional Mondeo standard.

I did hear of reliability issues too - but on a 2020/21 model those might have been sorted.

It's probably an improvement on the i40 but that's about it.

A pity because they actually look well styling wise.

DAVE1972 · 01-04-2020 10:10pm

foreign wrote: »

Grand if they can supply them. The contract would be for a class of vehicle, not a brand. If they can't supply the class then move on. There is a list of approved vehicles for each class.

PEUGEOT are fine car , very popular in UK , I remember a 91d 405 marked when I worked in galway doing the rounds along with a marked 309 I think in Oranmore galway aswell as an unmarked white one in the bridewell in cork ,

Sgt. Bilko 09 · 03-04-2020 8:58pm

Why did procurement end the Toyota deal!? I was asked today but I actually forgot...

POGAN · 03-04-2020 9:40pm

Sgt. Bilko 09 wrote: »

Why did procurement end the Toyota deal!? I was asked today but I actually forgot...

They were horrible

California Dreamer · 03-04-2020 9:43pm

Sgt. Bilko 09 wrote: »

Why did procurement end the Toyota deal!? I was asked today but I actually forgot...

Are they all pretty much gone? Certainly didn't last very long in their silver colours.

POGAN · 03-04-2020 10:18pm

California Dreamer wrote: »

Are they all pretty much gone? Certainly didn't last very long in their silver colours.

They went mileage so quick as so little cars purchased since 07/08

Sgt. Bilko 09 · 04-04-2020 12:18am

I liked the estate avensis we had it never gave up but it went to another district we got a 07 focus replace (no joke) but I forgot why they were replaced...

POGAN · 04-04-2020 10:18am

Sgt. Bilko 09 wrote: »

I liked the estate avensis we had it never gave up but it went to another district we got a 07 focus replace (no joke) but I forgot why they were replaced...

Clutches, engines going bang... but realistic they first purchase since 2007

They are given to units and they were down so many cars couldn’t regulate mileage as it was one car covering the job of 3 cars that’s why they didn’t last.

bigdaddymac · 04-04-2020 7:53pm

Why don’t they lease the cars from the manufacturer like the uk?

POGAN · 04-04-2020 10:38pm

bigdaddymac wrote: »

Why don’t they lease the cars from the manufacturer like the uk?

Won’t happen here

carzony · 04-04-2020 10:40pm

I'd love to see an increase in the 'hot hatches' Golfs, VRS, RS etc... I would say they'd buy them cheap enough, running costs might be expensive though

mpc · 04-04-2020 10:43pm

carzony wrote: »

I'd love to see an increase in the 'hot hatches' Golfs, VRS, RS etc... I would say they'd buy them cheap enough, running costs might be expensive though

Whole life cost would be huge for these cars but they're needed

POGAN · 04-04-2020 11:42pm

carzony wrote: »

I'd love to see an increase in the 'hot hatches' Golfs, VRS, RS etc... I would say they'd buy them cheap enough, running costs might be expensive though

There a few of them DMR

POGAN · 04-04-2020 11:44pm

mpc wrote: »

Whole life cost would be huge for these cars but they're needed

We are spending 1 million a month on service and repairs

mpc · 05-04-2020 1:40pm

POGAN wrote: »

We are spending 1 million a month on service and repairs

Bear in mind there are about 2,500 vehicles on the fleet

Esel · 05-04-2020 6:09pm

That's an average of €400 per month per vehicle.

POGAN · 05-04-2020 6:21pm

mpc wrote: »

Bear in mind there are about 2,500 vehicles on the fleet

Of course... this includes crash repairs etc

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