Proper Pronunciation or lah-dee-dah

Force Carrier wrote: »

Strange that the county is Leesh and the town is port leesh AAH.

Where did the AAH come from?

Possessive case. The county is "Laois"; the town is the fort of Laois or, in Irish, Port Laoise.

You see the same thing when comparing the Irish names for Athlone and Dublin. Athlone is Áth Luain, the ford of Luan. But Dublin is Baile Átha Cliath, the town of the ford of hurdles.

Force Carrier wrote: »

And how can it be a port when it's fifty miles inland?

Port in an Irish place-name usually indicates a port or harbour, especially in the names of what were Viking settlements. It can be a river-port, so it can be well inland. But Port Laoise is not a Viking settlement, and the port in Port Laoise is actually a gaelicised version of the English word "fort". English settlers constructed a fort there, and named the settlement around the fort "Maryborough" after the then English queen, but the native Irish around the settlement referred to it as Port Laoise, the fort of Laois.

Ah, but how you pronounce "pinot grigio" depends on what language you're speaking.

The grape variety originates in France, where it's known as "pinot gris". When speaking French, the 't" in "pinot" is silent. However in Italy the same grape is known as "pinot grigio", and the "t" is voiced. Italian doesn't really do silent consonants.

The grape variety became unfashionable in France and for a long time the acreage cultivated in France was small. Most of the rest of the world got the grape variety from Italy, and know it as "pinot grigio", though in the US it's usually "pinot gris". "Grigio" is obviously an Italian word and gets an italianate pronunciation, but English speakers mostly (correctly) identify "pinot" as a French word and give it a frenchified pronunciation.

Stevieluvsye wrote: »

Lady i know pronounces Definitely as def in eye tly

Sounds ridiculous

It is ridiculous...

Like would you say

“Eyit eyes rideyeculous”

Total tools.

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Sixth. Literally that.
British people can't pronounce anything right.

Yep, bugs the living she-ite out of me that one. If it's sickth, then the number should surely be "sick".

"An historical" (e.g it's an historical occasion) is another one that gets me. Why don't they say an history then ?

trashcan wrote: »

Yep, bugs the living she-ite out of me that one. If it's sickth, then the number should surely be "sick".

"An historical" (e.g it's an historical occasion) is another one that gets me. Why don't they say an history then ?

If I had twenty six sheep and one of them died, how many would I have left?

If they say twenty five, tell them they are wrong. You said twenty sick sheep, and the answer is nineteen.

Can you tell the difference between twenty six sheep, and twenty sick sheep, in normal speech?

Stovepipe wrote: »

RTE newsreaders say "pleece" for "police" and "med-sin" for "medicine" (Sharon Ni Bheolain in particular). Is she right or wrong?
Given all the stories about cervical cancer, I hear the word "cervical" often pronounced as "ser-vy-cal", especially medical people. Is that the correct pronunciation?

IPA: /p(əˈ)liːs/; (England, colloquial) IPA: /ˈpliːs/

(UK) enPR: ˈmed-sǐn, ˈmed-sn, IPA: /ˈmɛd.sɪn/, /ˈmɛd.sn̩/

Stovepipe wrote: »

RTE newsreaders say "pleece" for "police" and "med-sin" for "medicine" (Sharon Ni Bheolain in particular). Is she right or wrong?

The Oxford English Dictionary indicates that "paleece" and "pleece" are both standard pronunciations.

As for "medicine", it's one of a number of words where the choice between a two-syllable pronunciation and a three-syllable pronunciation is, or at least used to be, a class marker. Posh people say "medsin"; plebs say "medissin". "Regiment" is another word of this kind.

Stovepipe wrote: »

Given all the stories about cervical cancer, I hear the word "cervical" often pronounced as "ser-vy-cal", especially medical people. Is that the correct pronunciation?

"Servickle" and "serv-eye-kal" are both standard, according to the OED.

Georgie

I'm not taking pronunciation lessons from someone who pronounces "commonly" as "cammonly"!

Church on Tuesday wrote: »

Who Sven?

He is German.

So? In the section on German names, he's being particularly finnicky about the pronunciation of some names, insisiting on rolling the 'r' in many words, something that doesn't come naturally to many. So I feel justified in being equally finnicky about his inability to correctly enunciate the letter 'o'. Pot, kettle, black.

What’s this crack with the word ‘quarter’.

It seems out in RTEland it’s ‘quawter’.

“A quawter “ of a million.

What’s wrong with ‘quarter’.

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Gateaux

It pronounced gattox, you little bolleaux.

Where is this place called Tie-rown so beloved of the GAA heads and others on RTE. The Irish version is Tír Eoghan and it has been pronounced in identical form in English since Noah was a lad. It's just a way to appear superior to all us plebs but it only makes them look like the dickheads they are.

cdgalwegian wrote: »

I think the tide has turned with the pronunciation of Renault; it was mostly pronounced Renawlt, but now appears to be mainly Renoh. But what about Peugeot? Are we still embarrassed to pronounce it as it should- Puh-zho, instead of Pew-jo?

It's always been pronounced "renoh"
And then other had always been pronounced "pehjo"
They are French car names.

cdgalwegian wrote: »

Not everywhere in Ireland; part of the reason for the post.



Really? Sacre bleu.

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