Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury - December 1st

megadodge wrote: »

Morrison J wrote: »

Wilder to me fights like a guy who doesn't have much faith in his chin. Very upright and tentative. I'd be surprised if he starts the fight aggressive tbh. Ortiz had him very hesitant through the use of feints and the left hand counter. Wilder hardly threw a jab in that fight he was so worried about what would come back. Had Ortiz sweeping the first four rounds personally until Wilder landed a straight shot in the 5th and things flipped.

I do think Wilder will take the risk that Wlad couldn't though and throw caution to the wind late knowing he's behind on the cards. Could be a classic finish to this I think especially if Fury is tired which he more than likely will be given its only his 3rd fight back.

This is a great fight. Big question marks over both for different reasons. Really looking forward to it.

Good post.

Mainly because you must have seen some of Wilder's fights! Some of the posts here have me thinking these fellas have actually never seen a full Wilder fight! He is ultra-cautious in the early rounds! Surely people can't possibly miss that?

The pace of his fights are usually slow, because he is afraid of getting hit and the opposition are usually more cautious than normal due to Wilder's power. Because of this his fights are usually dull affairs besides the finish. I fully expect this to be a dull repeat of the Fury / Klitchko fight with Fury's feints and jab completely bamboozling Wilder.

Hopefully, the judges will reflect what happens in the ring. It is an American in America versus a non-American....

These posts make sense to me. Wilder has looked very ordinary and questionably behind vs Washington and Spzilka. Fury is a diffeeent prospect. I can only see a fury win here but if it comes down to the judges it’s hard to know. In the video of the two of them wilder looked confused and mumbling. Fury composed and relishing it.

All those picking or wanting/hoping Fury wins seem to want to hope and if their way to it...

He is NOT the same boxer from 2015. This is a 2018 fight...

Well he may not be but he's a fairly unknown quantity and there are lots of potential outcomes hence the ifs and maybes. No one can say what Fury will turn up or what his true motivation is so it's unpredictable. Wilder will do as Wilder does. I thought Fury did well in the psychological battles so far even if they were a bit staged looking early on especially but I would question whether or not even the 2015 Fury had enough power to really bother Wilder. That said, as some of the guys have commented - Wilder fights 3-4 rounds every fight looking petrified of being hit. If he hands over the initiative to Fury he could be in trouble

I sway for this fight. On one hand I often think fury’s pitter patter might well open wilder up and enable him to win, maybe even by ko. Wilder seems to reckon his chance is ko but fury was spot on with his praise for wilder about six months ago. He said he was fast, agile, powerful and with a deceptively effective jab. A wilder vs stiverne 1 type fight wouldn’t surprise me. Mightn’t be wonderful viewing though

Interesting article with Mark Breland in this week's Boxing News. Breland trains Wilder and when asked about him he said "he has a very good jab when he uses it" and "but sometimes the right hand is sloppy. I try to tell him to throw it straight, not overhand. That way, it will get there quicker." Hardly a ringing endorsement!

If Wilder's own trainer sounds frustrated, it's because I've no doubt he's told Wilder certain things a thousand times over and Wilder doesn't do them in a fight. Why? Because he has no composure. He's a panicker! And it's so obvious, I can't believe so few people ever mention it.

When he faces Fury, he's facing a fella who absolutely does NOT fear him and that can really have an affect on someone so weak mentally.

Wilder is superbly conditioned, so in all likelihood it will be a long boring fight, with Fury well ahead on points going into the late rounds. Then, maybe and that's a BIG maybe, Wilder will open up knowing he needs a KO. It could make for an interesting end to the fight, but I have my doubts.

Just YouTubed it.
Looks real. If it is he's a knob.

liamoreilly wrote: »

...If it's true he didn't realise there was a person in it, I worry about his level of IQ...I'm thinking it's staged, but if true could there be a case to sue, technically it's assault with deadly weapon considering his profession...

The studio guys were telling him to hit it so technically it’s their fault. I do question his intelligence though ( but that’s a different story altogether).

ESPN must have a liability. If I came into work and my employer said, We're going to let a world heavyweight champion punch you in the face for a laugh, I would have some concerns.

walshb wrote: »

yourdeadwright wrote: »

There is zero chance that the story is real, There would be a law suit straight away and pictures of the guy in hospital and apologise from Wilder , Its hype that Wilder needs to become man stream ,

Do you think it wasn't Deontay in the video?

What ? of course it was Wilder,but don't believe for one second he broke your mans jaw,

walshb wrote: »

yourdeadwright wrote: »

What ? of course it was Wilder,but don't believe for one second he broke your mans jaw,

Ok, but maybe he did some damage, and maybe doing what he did was wrong?

I wasn't sure what you meant.....

Would this only be a story IF the mascot suffered a broken jaw?

From what I saw it was a pretty reckless and ill advised "stunt."

All I'm saying is it was a total set up, the guy obvious knew it was going to happen before hand and Wilder was probably told how tall he was and punched over his head height, remember how tall Wilder is himself,
If he truly hit the guy on just the word of the presenter and broke his jaw there would be a lawsuit and it would be all over the news,
Its was a cheap publicity stunt that's all I'm saying,

Just over a month to go now fella's ,
Really looking forward to this fight, fingers crossed there is no late injuries,
Still finding this impossible to call, but with a gun to my head id' slightly favour a Wilder KO ,
I would like to see Fury win just to see him v AJ next
Would be a massive massive fight , the build up would be great,

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Made my final decision

Fury is going to school him for a lobisided points win

Were you unsure for a while?

If so it's some pick......not just happy with a points win....:pac:

Sweet.Science wrote: »

I was unsure

But i watched his fight with Ortiz again last night . He really is so limited. A hail mary is what he'll be looking for.

I must of been half asleep watching it the 1st time around.

Personally if Fury wins on points I can't see it being clear or easy. Wilder is big and rangy and awkward and can box. Add in that Fury will most likely need to box very cautiously and carefully and with defense in mind, all this likely meaning his own offense will suffer.

If Fury wins on points expect it to be very ugly, awkward and difficult to score....

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Very possible its the Wlad fight all over again, which Fury won ugly but clearly,
But I do think if its going that way Wilder will lose his cool and could get dropped,

Again I think Wilder KO is the highest percent chance of being the outcome,

Very much doubt it will be like the Wald fight...

The Wlad fight win was not clear....argument could be made for a heap of rds in that fight for either man.