Random Wrestling Thoughts (Part 2)

CastorTroy · 22-09-2019 1:48pm

Was surprised with the recent episodes giving LAX a send off. Usually people just disappear from the shows with no warning.

PTH2009 · 22-09-2019 7:10pm

Time difference is really confusing regarding wwe on tv

Its something like 5pm that Raw/SD/PPVs airs on the west cost of the US. If raw etc is live from the west coast does it then air at something like 10pm in the east coast

johnnyryan89 · 22-09-2019 7:18pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Time difference is really confusing regarding wwe on tv

Its something like 5pm that Raw/SD/PPVs airs on the west cost of the US. If raw etc is live from the west coast does it then air at something like 10pm in the east coast

I'd assume as Raw always airs here at 1am apart from when the clocks change that it airs at 8pm eastern time all the time, even when live in places in the west coast.

PTH2009 · 22-09-2019 7:35pm

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

I'd assume as Raw always airs here at 1am apart from when the clocks change that it airs at 8pm eastern time all the time, even when live in places in the west coast.

People prob watching on there commutes home from work on the west coast

With SD back on fridays/Saturday morning here, it will be hard to knw how many will watch live every week now. Prob end up watching it live if I'm not out or working etc. Normally watch the first hour or so of raw and then the rest Tuesday.

Remember a time when raw used to be on Friday nights over here and before the wrestling new sites became we had tele text services with rumours ans had the telephone numbers you could ring during the week which would give results of the raw that was taped on the Monday night. God killed for ringing them up cost a bomb ha

Adiboo · 22-09-2019 7:54pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Remember a time when raw used to be on Friday nights over here and before the wrestling new sites became we had tele text services with rumours ans had the telephone numbers you could ring during the week which would give results of the raw that was taped on the Monday night. God killed for ringing them up cost a bomb ha

10pm on a Friday night. My nan would always buy me a pizza!

J. Marston · 23-09-2019 12:20am

Lacey went kinda viral because she stayed in character while getting a speeding ticket. It upset some of Twitter and Reddit as they thought she was being for real and it made Canadian news...

https://twitter.com/LaceyEvansWWE/status/1175466342843113472?s=19

Who said kayfabe is dead?

PTH2009 · 24-09-2019 1:43am

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

I'd assume as Raw always airs here at 1am apart from when the clocks change that it airs at 8pm eastern time all the time, even when live in places in the west coast.

Raw and SD being recorded on the west coast this week so kicking off amazingly at 5pm there time and be over by 8pm

Riddle101 · 24-09-2019 6:23pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Lacey went kinda viral because she stayed in character while getting a speeding ticket. It upset some of Twitter and Reddit as they thought she was being for real and it made Canadian news...

https://twitter.com/LaceyEvansWWE/status/1175466342843113472?s=19

Who said kayfabe is dead?

I wish she didn't apologizes for it in the end. Just makes the whole things look even worse. Like when Brian Pillman apologized after Pillman's got a gun. That just completely ruined the brilliance of the segment.

Itssoeasy · 28-09-2019 9:02pm

I know it say it at the time it happen(well the Friday after) but I was watching the first hell in a cell match last night and then today I watched the raw after it which was the Brian pillman tribute, and I've watch this raw episode once after I first watched but Jesus H Christ does the interview with his widow get worse as the years have gone on. What the **** was vince thinking ?

This is also the episode where triple h and HBK act like utter pricks to open the show including showing the curtain call. You can really see why in the latest episode of the untold on the WWE network where they talk about Kane's debut and undertaker says back in 1997 he says he wouldn't have piss on Shawn Michaels if he was in fire. HBK was lucky he was unreal in the ring.

CastorTroy · 30-09-2019 6:42pm

Just seeing the about NWA starting the youtube shows, I was wondering what are all the available shows now?
Raw
Smackdown
NXT
NXT UK
205 Live
AEW
ROH
Impact
NWA
NJPW

Adiboo · 30-09-2019 7:37pm

Has Rey Mysterio ever been heel?

RollieFingers · 30-09-2019 7:48pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

Just seeing the about NWA starting the youtube shows, I was wondering what are all the available shows now?
Raw
Smackdown
NXT
NXT UK
205 Live
AEW
ROH
Impact
NWA
NJPW

MLW too.

sky88 · 30-09-2019 8:09pm

Adiboo wrote: »

Has Rey Mysterio ever been heel?

I think late wcw he was without the mask

PTH2009 · 01-10-2019 12:02am

Rey is too small to be heel ha

Remember when Mick Foley was heel for a few weeks

Omackeral · 01-10-2019 3:00am

PTH2009 wrote: »

Rey is too small to be heel ha

Remember when Mick Foley was heel for a few weeks

Foley was heel from 1996-1998 as Mankind. He was terrifying when he came in. He was also heel as Dude Love in 1998 as a stooge for Vince Mc Mahon. So a lot more than a few weeks.

Rey was heel/tweener in WCW as part of the Filthy Animals stable.

Muff_Daddy · 01-10-2019 12:40pm

Pretty much every wrestler turns at some point in their career.

The only exception I can think of, of any wrestler who’s had a substantial career, is Ultimate Warrior, who has been a perma face to the best of my knowledge.

B.A._Baracus · 01-10-2019 1:25pm

Muff_Daddy wrote: »

Pretty much every wrestler turns at some point in their career.

The only exception I can think of, of any wrestler who’s had a substantial career, is Ultimate Warrior, who has been a perma face to the best of my knowledge.

IIRC Warrior was a heel along with Sting when they were a tag team back in the day. Granted... Warrior never was heel when he was uber-babyface.

Accordingly, there is one wrestler who never ever was a heel in his entire career and that's Ricky Steamboat.

Omackeral · 01-10-2019 2:20pm

Bit random but sure look at the threat title. Koko B Ware was a babyface for his entire WWE run from 1986-1994. That's a long stint. He was also the first man to be hit with Undertaker's Tombstone. Another stat for the Birdman, he was in the first ever match on RAW.

Loughc · 01-10-2019 2:42pm

While the current WWE Product maybe poor, can't help but feel the wrestling industry is looking down the barrel of another boom.

NXT/AEW making waves on Wednesday nights and Fox is making Smackdown out to be a huge deal as well. Everything is coming to a boil this week, could we be seeing something special begin to happen?

B.A._Baracus · 02-10-2019 12:37pm

Loughc wrote: »

While the current WWE Product maybe poor, can't help but feel the wrestling industry is looking down the barrel of another boom.

NXT/AEW making waves on Wednesday nights and Fox is making Smackdown out to be a huge deal as well. Everything is coming to a boil this week, could we be seeing something special begin to happen?

I hope so as it's been 20 years since the last boom in wrestling. About time.
I'll say this tho... it was always going to take someone with mega money to try and rival WWE and bring about another boom and/or "monday night war" - Tony Khan is now that man who potentially can.

That said, even if AEW fails, WWE has brought the shieks into things with the Saudi shows. Other billionaires... Who seem to want to go back to the day of Austin, Rock etc. Should WWE and the Saudi shows stop or get stale. There is a market for some shiek to create this own promotion. Someone who has the money. Billions like Khan. I know WWE has a deal in place for many years. But times change. Things change.

Nintendo famously asked Sony to make a CD drive for their consoles back in the day. In turn, when the deal fell through, the Playstation was born.

This is only my opinion. Only my prediction so it ain't worth jack but I think in the next 10 years you are going to have some Saudi promotion. While it may start out only running shows in Saudi it will expand.

montyrebel · 02-10-2019 5:11pm

isnt khan just another dixie carter and using his parents money?

rizzla · 02-10-2019 5:25pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

This is only my opinion. Only my prediction so it ain't worth jack but I think in the next 10 years you are going to have some Saudi promotion. While it may start out only running shows in Saudi it will expand.

Judging by their tastes it will be a WWE retirement home.

leggo · 02-10-2019 11:47pm

montyrebel wrote: »

isnt khan just another dixie carter and using his parents money?

That’s probably unfair, he does have a large degree of cop on of his own. But nobody is putting how the Khans actually run their existing organisations under scrutiny. Fulham, for example: last season they threw millions at high profile, quick fix solutions (sound familiar?), it didn’t work immediately with high stakes for failure, they sacked two managers within a season and went down with a whimper. So what can we learn? They throw money at things and expect instant solutions to difficult objectives instead of building patiently, they’ve very little loyalty/patience for failure and will chop and change on a whim and their sports teams aren’t very successful or well run on balance. Wrestling is SUCH a different beast to any other kind of sport, it pretty much has its own language like, there’s a LOT to it and just being a fan doesn’t prepare you in the slightest. Just being a billionaire doesn’t either, it just buys you people who are happy to take your money.

None of this is being discussed and it’s mental. In any other field, people get this scrutiny. Think the media going through how Roman Abramovich got his money when he took over Chelsea, or when Fenway took over Liverpool, or fans protesting when the Glazers bought Man Utd. But these questions don’t get asked because people either don’t understand/care about sport enough to ask them or because they’re reliant on Meltzer, who’s mates with these people, to do so and he’s just not going to.

beakerjoe · 03-10-2019 9:10am

Without going into the AEW thread for fear of spoilers, where can one watch Dynamite now its aired?

B.A._Baracus · 03-10-2019 9:39am

beakerjoe wrote: »

Without going into the AEW thread for fear of spoilers, where can one watch Dynamite now its aired?

Full show on ITV4 11.20pm fridays and 8:20am sunday while clip show monday.

*edit*
I am not sure if ITV4 are showing it this week oddly enough. Listings say they are showing a Death Wish movie at 11:20pm Friday (surely they will) It is listed for Sunday morning tho.

As an alternative you can always use Fite app and pay 4.99 per month. Watch it whenever you want.

rizzla · 03-10-2019 11:01am

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

As an alternative you can always use Fite app and pay 4.99 per month. Watch it whenever you want.

It's 5.49, guess that's an Irish tax :pac:

gerrybbadd · 03-10-2019 11:23am

beakerjoe wrote: »

Without going into the AEW thread for fear of spoilers, where can one watch Dynamite now its aired?

Meant to be on the ITV hub from Tonight too

CastorTroy · 03-10-2019 8:45pm

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

Full show on ITV4 11.20pm fridays and 8:20am sunday while clip show monday.

*edit*
I am not sure if ITV4 are showing it this week oddly enough. Listings say they are showing a Death Wish movie at 11:20pm Friday (surely they will) It is listed for Sunday morning tho.

As an alternative you can always use Fite app and pay 4.99 per month. Watch it whenever you want.

It's listed as airing on ITV's site and tvguide.co.uk. Probably some sites aren't updated.
Looking at the Death Wish listing, they do that annoying thing where they take a break to do an entertainment update. Hope they don't do that during AEW.
Off topic, I know, but the Sony Movie Channel does it as well, so if recording you have to record both parts. Because people watching films like Death Wish 2 or Lethal Weapon 3 (tonight) really want an entertainment update. :rolleyes:

TimesArrow · 04-10-2019 8:07am

Is it true you can record ITV4 on virgin? Someone told me this yesterday

gerrybbadd · 04-10-2019 10:01am

montyrebel wrote: »

isnt khan just another dixie carter and using his parents money?

Difference is, Khan has been a lifelong fan, with a genuine love for the business. His interview with Jericho is well worth a listen. He was a tape trader back in the day, and can tell you dates and locations for matches, just off the top of his head. Encyclopedic knowledge of wrestling past

Loughc · 04-10-2019 1:25pm

TimesArrow wrote: »

Is it true you can record ITV4 on virgin? Someone told me this yesterday

This is true.

PTH2009 · 05-10-2019 7:36pm

Anyone going to the bret hart inside the ropes ??

Looking forward to it next Thursday

Omackeral · 06-10-2019 2:46am

PTH2009 wrote: »

Anyone going to the bret hart inside the ropes ??

Looking forward to it next Thursday

If there's any spare tickets going for this can someone hit me up?

CastorTroy · 07-10-2019 6:52pm

Why do they insist on saying everyone's nickname, or whatever you want to call it, every time. Like they couldn't just say "The Fiend" or "Wyatt" last night. They had to keep saying "The Fiend Bray Wyatt". Well I know why, but it's the fact they do that but then shorten wrestler's actual names like Andrade and Cesaro. Though they gave Harper and Rowan back their names.

J. Marston · 07-10-2019 7:12pm

Nakamura looks like a wrestler you'd see in a pub.

His gear looks cheap as hell and doesn't even look like it fits him properly. Everything about him screams "don't care". Go away.

PTH2009 · 07-10-2019 8:10pm

Poor Allister Black is not getting anything

A move back to NXT might be best for him

johnnyryan89 · 07-10-2019 8:25pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

Why do they insist on saying everyone's nickname, or whatever you want to call it, every time. Like they couldn't just say "The Fiend" or "Wyatt" last night. They had to keep saying "The Fiend Bray Wyatt". Well I know why, but it's the fact they do that but then shorten wrestler's actual names like Andrade and Cesaro. Though they gave Harper and Rowan back their names.

If Fox are gonna be pushing for a more sports like feel then hopefully some of the lads have their names changed back. Shortening a name works for some but someone like Andrade has a great long name for Greg Hamilton to really belt out when introducing him. Can still call him Andrade in interviews and commentary but Andrade doesn't have that big fight feel compared to Andrade Cien Almas when being introduced.

Loughc · 07-10-2019 9:16pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Poor Allister Black is not getting anything

A move back to NXT might be best for him

Not his fault no one will knock on his door.

Lithium93_ · 07-10-2019 9:28pm

Loughc wrote: »

Not his fault no one will knock on his door.

Does anyone knock on doors anymore, a doorbell is what he needs, something with a catchy jingle.

PTH2009 · 07-10-2019 9:45pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Does anyone knock on doors anymore, a doorbell is what he needs, something with a catchy jingle.

They could just find him on social media and give him an owl 'I'm outside now'

Agent Coulson · 07-10-2019 10:02pm

Allister Black despite all his tattoos is one of the most vanilla wrestlers around.

He is like a generic built wrestler from WWE2kwhatever that some kid when mad on with the tattoo art.

Loughc · 07-10-2019 10:04pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Allister Black despite all his tattoos is one of the most vanilla wrestlers around.

He’s not a midget at least :pac:

B.A._Baracus · 08-10-2019 8:55am

J. Marston wrote: »

Nakamura looks like a wrestler you'd see in a pub.

His gear looks cheap as hell and doesn't even look like it fits him properly. Everything about him screams "don't care". Go away.

WWE has a well known hatred of pleather for many years

I've seen way worse than Nakamura's on the indies. But yeah. It really (overall) doesn't scream cool, looking superstar gear wearing pleather.

CastorTroy · 08-10-2019 5:53pm

Why is it the fans "What?" Asuka and Kairi for speaking Japanese, yet everyone can seemingly understand Spanish?

J. Marston · 08-10-2019 6:20pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

Why is it the fans "What?" Asuka and Kairi for speaking Japanese, yet everyone can seemingly understand Spanish?

Big Hispanic population in America and Spanish is an easier language to learn than Japanese so a large percentage of the crowd probably understand what is being said.

I cannot stand the "What?" chant though. One of the things they should teach in the Performance Centre is to speak in a cadence that minimises the chance of it happening. Joe is especially good at rattling off intense promos with no pauses. Becky too.

Itssoeasy · 08-10-2019 6:27pm

J. Marston wrote: »

CastorTroy wrote: »

Why is it the fans "What?" Asuka and Kairi for speaking Japanese, yet everyone can seemingly understand Spanish?

Big Hispanic population in America and Spanish is an easier language to learn than Japanese so a large percentage of the crowd probably understand what is being said.

I cannot stand the "What?" chant though.One of the things they should teach in the Performance Centre is to speak in a cadence that minimises the chance of it happening. Joe is especially good at rattling off intense promos with no pauses. Becky too.

Yeah for all the good stone cold austin gave us the fans in both great matches and moments, the what chant is one thing he won't be thanked for.

Itssoeasy · 08-10-2019 6:27pm

J. Marston wrote: »

CastorTroy wrote: »

Why is it the fans "What?" Asuka and Kairi for speaking Japanese, yet everyone can seemingly understand Spanish?

Big Hispanic population in America and Spanish is an easier language to learn than Japanese so a large percentage of the crowd probably understand what is being said.

I cannot stand the "What?" chant though.One of the things they should teach in the Performance Centre is to speak in a cadence that minimises the chance of it happening. Joe is especially good at rattling off intense promos with no pauses. Becky too.

Yeah for all the good stone cold austin gave us the fans in both great matches and moments, the what chant is one thing he won't be thanked for.

Omackeral · 08-10-2019 8:05pm

The irony of you repeating that post is fantastic.

Itssoeasy · 08-10-2019 8:21pm

Omackeral wrote: »

The irony of you repeating that post is fantastic.

It wasn't intentional.

Lithium93_ · 08-10-2019 8:27pm

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Yeah for all the good stone cold austin gave us the fans in both great matches and moments, the what chant is one thing he won't be thanked for.

Omackeral wrote: »

The irony of you repeating that post is fantastic.

Itssoeasy wrote: »

It wasn't intentional.

Sorry :pac:

Random Wrestling Thoughts (Part 2)

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