The Greatest Song Sung By A Woman.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 15-05-2020 12:42am

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

No you will score every song out of 20 points. I’ll then eliminate the lowest scored songs. I was just wondering if 20 points is enough to get a good amount of songs eliminated. .

Yeah ratings out of 20 should be fine to separate the good from the bad, if theres a good few people voting.

So are you eliminating the lowest scored songs from each group? Or whatever the lowest scoring songs out of all 300+ are?

How long do we have to rate this first group?

Zaph · 15-05-2020 12:44am

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I was just wondering if 20 points is enough to get a good amount of songs eliminated. .

Not sure what you mean by this. I presumed that you'd decide how many you want to go through to the knockout stage and then choose the top 64/128/whatever scoring songs from the final list.

Pretzill · 15-05-2020 12:44am

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I’ve broken it down into batches of 25 every day or so. Gives you chance to listen to them all. The head to head rounds are a while away yet. This is the qualifying round

Ah Ok - I just didn't think there wouldn't be a need to listen to all

- gotcha

15-05-2020 12:48am

Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote: »

Yeah ratings out of 20 should be fine to separate the good from the bad, if theres a good few people voting.

So are you eliminating the lowest scored songs from each group? Or whatever the lowest scoring songs out of all 300+ are?

How long do we have to rate this first group?

I’ll eliminate the lowest scoring songs from the combined lists. You don’t have to have the scores in before the next batch of songs i just thought it would be easier to listen and grade if it was in smaller batches.

Listen at your leisure.

15-05-2020 12:50am

Zaph wrote: »

Not sure what you mean by this. I presumed that you'd decide how many you want to go through to the knockout stage and then choose the top 64/128/whatever scoring songs from the final list.

Lol Zaph. I’m thinking on my feet at the minute. No idea how the maths work out for the next stage yet

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Zaph · 15-05-2020 12:52am

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I’ll eliminate the lowest scoring songs from the combined lists.

Would that not cause a problem if you have less people scoring group A compared to group B, for example? Overall the scores for group A will be lower and they could all be eliminated as a result. Or will the scores be averaged in some way?

Zaph · 15-05-2020 12:52am

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Lol Zaph. I’m thinking on my feet at the minute. No idea how the maths work out for the next stage yet

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Sorry Strawbs, I'll stop now

15-05-2020 12:56am

I’ve thought about that. I’ll be keeping track of who has scored what songs and I’ll send off a PM to remind them of any outstanding they’ve yet to score.

Depending on how many they’ve already scored, I’ll either disregard their scores completely or average out the ones left.

y0ssar1an22 · 15-05-2020 1:00am

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I’ve broken it down into batches of 25 every day or so. Gives you chance to listen to them all. The head to head rounds are a while away yet. This is the qualifying round

like the champions league. filter out the worst so we can get down to business!

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 15-05-2020 1:00am

Just one more thing Strawbs and then I'll stop asking annoying questions...

Should there be a game thread for all this, or is this round happening here in the sign ups thread?

tayto lover · 15-05-2020 1:01am

Was “The Power of Love” by Jennifer Rush mentioned yet?

Pretzill · 15-05-2020 1:02am

tayto lover wrote: »

Was “The Power of Love” by Jennifer Rush mentioned yet?

You just mentioned it and that's enough... Greatest...not most annoying

y0ssar1an22 · 15-05-2020 1:03am

i know its the idea, but some of the songs i've never heard before are awesome!

15-05-2020 1:04am

Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote: »

Just one more thing Strawbs and then I'll stop asking annoying questions...

Should there be a game thread for all this, or is this round happening here in the sign ups thread?

Oh. I dunno.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 15-05-2020 2:27am

Some really strong songs in that first group - only 2 that I really didn't like at all, and one or two others that were just a bit 'meh', but the majority are solid. Will be tough to decide what marks to give them. There's at least 5 I could easily give full marks to.

Will have to have another listen or two again tomorrow.

Kolido · 15-05-2020 6:00am

Thats a hell of a lot of work you have put on yourself Strawbs, I tend to take the easy way out

Some great tunes in that first group and one of my noms

So the qualifying round will take about 3 weeks?

15-05-2020 7:36am

Morning.

Kolido, the best I could do was break it down into groups of 25 which will be 1 1/2 to 2 hours of listening each section. So it’s gonna be 2 weeks minimum at least.

I still don’t know if I should be opening a new thread now or leave that until we have narrowed the list down.

Any suggestions are appreciated.

quickbeam · 15-05-2020 7:56am

Up to you Strawbs. You could wait for a new thread for the head-to-heads.

Or you could have the new thread from the batch voting. I can move the posts to a new thread if that's what you'd prefer.

Kolido · 15-05-2020 8:03am

You could wait until the first round starts, then copy the qualifying playlists there just to have everything in the same place.

15-05-2020 8:18am

I think it’s best to have a smaller selection of songs ready for the live thread. Thanks you lot.

noby · 15-05-2020 9:09am

Fair play for taking on this!

Are we to pm our scores to you? Just listening now.

lassykk · 15-05-2020 9:23am

Just submitting my results there now.

I went with 0, 5, 10, 15, 20 for my votes as I wanted to keep it simple for myself. Hope this is OK.

Really like the Cranberries track in this list and I'd never heard it before

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 15-05-2020 9:29am

lassykk wrote: »

I went with 0, 5, 10, 15, 20 for my votes as I wanted to keep it simple for myself. Hope this is OK.

Might do something similar myself.

Are 0's allowed?
Was gonna give two songs a 1, bit if zeros are allowed then its a different story.

Kolido · 15-05-2020 9:34am

I will mark mine out of 10 and just double the score, seems an easy format.

15-05-2020 9:37am

noby wrote: »

Fair play for taking on this!

Are we to pm our scores to you? Just listening now.

Yes please.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 15-05-2020 9:37am

Kolido wrote: »

I will mark mine out of 10 and just double the score, seems an easy format.

That's also a good idea. Might do that one.

15-05-2020 9:38am

Zeros are allowed. If you don’t like something, you don’t like it.

lassykk · 15-05-2020 9:43am

Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote: »

Might do something similar myself.

Are 0's allowed?
Was gonna give two songs a 1, bit if zeros are allowed then its a different story.

I'm just extremely harsh - I could probably give a 1 if i was feeling generous

My split was

20 - 3
15 - 2
10 - 1
5 - 7
0 - 12

Irish Aris · 15-05-2020 9:43am

lassykk wrote: »

Just submitting my results there now.

I went with 0, 5, 10, 15, 20 for my votes as I wanted to keep it simple for myself. Hope this is OK.

Really like the Cranberries track in this list and I'd never heard it before

I'm glad you liked it, one of my nominations and my favourite Cranberries song.

quickbeam · 15-05-2020 9:45am

You wouldn't happen to have a list of the songs posted, Strawbs? Something that I can copy in to a PM and put my scores against it, rather than copying each title from Youtube?

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 15-05-2020 9:45am

lassykk wrote: »

I'm just extremely harsh - I could probably give a 1 if i was feeling generous

My split was

20 - 3
15 - 2
10 - 1
5 - 7
0 - 12

Wow, very harsh.

lassykk · 15-05-2020 9:47am

quickbeam wrote: »

You wouldn't happen to have a list of the songs posted, Strawbs? Something that I can copy in to a PM and put my scores against it, rather than copying each title from Youtube?

Ward Thomas - No Filter
Natalie Imbruglia - That Day
Avril Lavigne - Head Above Water
Nightwish - Shoemaker
Gillian Welch - Everything is Free
Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam - All Cried Out
Shakespears Sister - Stay
Nina Simone - Sinnerman
Cocteau Twins - Pearly Dewdrops' Drops
Taylor Swift - I knew you were trouble
Skeeter Davis - The End of the World
Youssou N'Dour - 7 Seconds ft. Neneh Cherry
Cat Power - Nude As The News
The Dark Element - When It All Comes Down
Madonna - Frozen
Macy Gray - I try
Clarity - Zedd
Jefferson Airplane - White Rabbit
The Supremes - Stop! In The Name Of Love
Lamb - Gabriel
Moloko - Sing it Back
Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2U
The Cranberries - Animal Instinct
Jefferson Airplane - Somebody to Love
Edith Piaf - Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien

lassykk · 15-05-2020 9:48am

Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote: »

Wow, very harsh.

My thoughts were that I really only want songs I really like getting through to the later rounds so if I wouldn't vote for a song I gave it zero.

15-05-2020 9:57am

quickbeam wrote: »

You wouldn't happen to have a list of the songs posted, Strawbs? Something that I can copy in to a PM and put my scores against it, rather than copying each title from Youtube?

Gimme half hour. Just doing my dads exercise.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 15-05-2020 9:57am

lassykk wrote: »

My thoughts were that I really only want songs I really like getting through to the later rounds so if I wouldn't vote for a song I gave it zero.

I'll probably adapt that mentality once I start rating. 5 songs I absolutely love at the moment that will probably get full marks from me on this one, and quite a few others I'd gladly see move forward. Theres other songs that are good, but I could take or leave.

lassykk · 15-05-2020 9:59am

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Gimme half hour. Just doing my dads exercise.

I posted it up above - save you the bother

Tauriel · 15-05-2020 10:05am

Submitted my scoring.

I had eight scored at zero which was me being very generous. The majority of the songs would not be my cup of tea but saying that, I expect the three belonging to me to be scored zero by everyone else.

quickbeam · 15-05-2020 10:06am

Yeah, no worries Strawbs, I have it now thanks to lassykk.

This is a very new experience for me. I never listen to music I don't know. I'm also not really "musical" in the sense that I can critique a song from one listen. Those I know already will get preferential scoring just because of familiarity, I think.

Electric Nitwit · 15-05-2020 10:15am

Sticking in a nice day one reference post for myself, and anyone else that might find it useful...

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Spotify playlist - https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2vs0wQFLcgQTtlwqIi597F?si=HZjoiupMQRCKz0gRD-ofQg

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOF8MMEgcF4mSDZ48kncH8Vc0LrInVdvT

ShaneU wrote: »

Google/Youtube music playlist

https://play.google.com/music/playlist/AMaBXykuD2Obo4fOblhymXRE2ayztdCMYdhivaYuoMN7mjwgCowcf9SHtUCW-tzG3yBl0lJupjuGwlyUElycKpIIQ_cqvEfeOg%3D%3D

lassykk wrote: »

Ward Thomas - No Filter
Natalie Imbruglia - That Day
Avril Lavigne - Head Above Water
Nightwish - Shoemaker
Gillian Welch - Everything is Free
Lisa Lisa & Cult Jam - All Cried Out
Shakespears Sister - Stay
Nina Simone - Sinnerman
Cocteau Twins - Pearly Dewdrops' Drops
Taylor Swift - I knew you were trouble
Skeeter Davis - The End of the World
Youssou N'Dour - 7 Seconds ft. Neneh Cherry
Cat Power - Nude As The News
The Dark Element - When It All Comes Down
Madonna - Frozen
Macy Gray - I try
Clarity - Zedd
Jefferson Airplane - White Rabbit
The Supremes - Stop! In The Name Of Love
Lamb - Gabriel
Moloko - Sing it Back
Sinead O'Connor - Nothing Compares 2U
The Cranberries - Animal Instinct
Jefferson Airplane - Somebody to Love
Edith Piaf - Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien

Irish Aris · 15-05-2020 10:22am

lassykk wrote: »

My thoughts were that I really only want songs I really like getting through to the later rounds so if I wouldn't vote for a song I gave it zero.

I agree withn your logic.
The thing is that without even listening to the playlist I have 8 songs that I know and really like and they will score very high.
I will probably end up being like Paula Abdul in American Idol that liked everything!!! :pac:

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 15-05-2020 10:28am

I've decided to go for the classic rate everything out of 5 system, then multiply by 4, so my final results will either be 20, 16, 12, 8, 4, or 0 which I've already found really helpful, at making quicker decisions on ratings

Necro · 15-05-2020 10:56am

Submitted my ratings there, have had it on in the background all morning.

Some great songs, some not so great on that list fo sho.

the purple tin · 15-05-2020 10:58am

When is the deadline for your scores? Can't listen to them atm.

15-05-2020 10:59am

the purple tin wrote: »

When is the deadline for your scores? Can't listen to them atm.

After I have posted the final playlist. So loads of time.

15-05-2020 11:04am

Jesus, everyone's fierce harsh with all the zeros! I'd normally find it very difficult to give any song a zero, even if I really disliked it I'd try to find some sort of redeeming feature.

But now I feel like I have to be a really picky bastard because the rest of ye are!

Necro · 15-05-2020 11:05am

I'm normally not either admittedly but given the sheer volume of songs I kind of agree with lassy's thinking.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 15-05-2020 11:07am

Deleted User wrote: »

Jesus, everyone's fierce harsh with all the zeros! I'd normally find it very difficult to give any song a zero, even if I really disliked it I'd try to find some sort of redeeming feature.

But now I feel like I have to be a really picky bastard because the rest of ye are!

Yep, I've had to adapt the same picky bastard persona when doing my results now too. Looks like 7 are now getting a zero from me. The rating out of 5 and multiplying by 4 has definitely helped separate the really good from the less so good. I guess with so many songs to go through, a bit of ruthlessness is probably for the best, and will make the head-to-heads all the more epic. Still giving 5 songs 20 from this lot though. A couple of great new discoveries.

Will have another listen though before deciding on my final rating though.

Electric Nitwit · 15-05-2020 11:16am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Jesus, everyone's fierce harsh with all the zeros! I'd normally find it very difficult to give any song a zero, even if I really disliked it I'd try to find some sort of redeeming feature.

But now I feel like I have to be a really picky bastard because the rest of ye are!

Agreed, the lowest I'd go is 1/10
And the highest I'll go for anyone else's is likely 9/10

quickbeam · 15-05-2020 11:26am

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

I’ve thought about that. I’ll be keeping track of who has scored what songs and I’ll send off a PM to remind them of any outstanding they’ve yet to score.

Depending on how many they’ve already scored, I’ll either disregard their scores completely or average out the ones left.

I think average is the best. Guaranteed you won't get the same amount of people for every song.

15-05-2020 12:16pm

Electric Nitwit wrote: »

Agreed, the lowest I'd go is 1/10
And the highest I'll go for anyone else's is likely 9/10

Currently about 3/4 of the way through, there's only song so far I'd say that I actually dislike (as opposed to a few which I was just indifferent to), and even that's getting 2 points from me at the moment (1 out of 10 doubled, as per the Kolido system).

I might revise at the end though and round scores down depending on range (e.g. 0-2 gets 0 points, 4-6 gets 4 points,....,16-18 gets 16 points and a perfect 20 gets a 20.) I don't want to be overly generous, since everyone else is being so mean! :P

Nah fúck it, gonna keep it as 1-10 and doubled, with possibility of a zero only if I absolutely detest something so much that it's totally beyond redemption)

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