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Championship and Covid

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    They could finish the national leagues. Give most counties at least two games, have a semi final in each division. If it is disrupted, which it will most likely, then it is of far lesser consequence than starting AI series and having teams drop out or games being cancelled, and no-one at them.

    Leagues could be finished even if teams are missing several key players whereas it looks already that the three counties under Covid law will be starting off a a disadvantage and that undermines any championship. Club championships in these counties already going to be set back significantly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,269 ✭✭✭threeball


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    They could finish the national leagues. Give most counties at least two games, have a semi final in each division. If it is disrupted, which it will most likely, then it is of far lesser consequence than starting AI series and having teams drop out or games being cancelled, and no-one at them.

    Leagues could be finished even if teams are missing several key players whereas it looks already that the three counties under Covid law will be starting off a a disadvantage and that undermines any championship. Club championships in these counties already going to be set back significantly.

    League was always more important than the championship this year in my book given it was nearly complete and the consequences of not running it off for teams who worked hard to be promoted, or were about to be relegated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭joebloggs32


    seligehgit wrote: »
    A definite no as such sporting activities would be considered non essential travel.

    It appears Moneygall camogie fixtures have been cancelled for the next few weeks, but not the hurling going by what I can make out on Twitter.

    I don't have any grudge with it going ahead by the way. It's common sense being applied. The area is far safer in terms of exposure to the LOK outbreak than probably nearly all of Co. Westmeath for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    threeball wrote: »
    HQ were banking on crowds returning by the time championship happened. This now obviously won't happen. Its actually going in the other direction, so there's no chance there'll be IC this year. Better off to reinstate the all Ireland series of the club and play that to its extent.
    If IC goes ahead they'll still get TV revenues and have scope to have streaming services as rolled out in most counties for club games, I think government decisions, if there's localised lockdown etc. will be the main factor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,269 ✭✭✭threeball


    If IC goes ahead they'll still get TV revenues and have scope to have streaming services as rolled out in most counties for club games, I think government decisions, if there's localised lockdown etc. will be the main factor.

    TV revenue is Mickley mouse money and wouldn't even cover costs. The GAA make their money on the gate. No crowds, no money, no championship.
    If there was matches this week, Kildale offaly and laois would be out of the championship with who knows next. Its not a realistic prospect to expect to finish a decent competition given the current circumstances.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    threeball wrote: »
    TV revenue is Mickley mouse money and wouldn't even cover costs. The GAA make their money on the gate. No crowds, no money, no championship.
    If there was matches this week, Kildale offaly and laois would be out of the championship with who knows next. Its not a realistic prospect to expect to finish a decent competition given the current circumstances.
    As I said once government policies facilitates I think IC championship will go ahead, and that's what I mean localised lockdowns could potentially stop them going ahead. Alot can change in a day let alone a week so impossible to know what situation will be by the time IC action is due to start.


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Would be the end of poor Davy if they cancelled them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭joebloggs32


    As I said once government policies facilitates I think IC championship will go ahead, and that's what I mean localised lockdowns could potentially stop them going ahead. Alot can change in a day let alone a week so impossible to know what situation will be by the time IC action is due to start.

    Spot on,
    Up to a week ago Offaly probably had about 5 cases confirmed in the previous month.
    This can spread really fast, and now that we have seen the government willing to enforce a localised lockdown id be astonished if it doesn't happen elsewhere in the next few months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,269 ✭✭✭threeball


    As I said once government policies facilitates I think IC championship will go ahead, and that's what I mean localised lockdowns could potentially stop them going ahead. Alot can change in a day let alone a week so impossible to know what situation will be by the time IC action is due to start.

    Can't see it. Once HQ sees there's no money in it, it will be binned in September.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    threeball wrote: »
    Can't see it. Once HQ sees there's no money in it, it will be binned in September.
    I'd disagree, GAA is very much guilty of weighing finance over logic or principal at times but if games can be played I think they will go ahead, we're guessing really


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,104 ✭✭✭rolling boh


    the situation is likely to change quite suddenly in parts of the country with more people out and about more and more cases will occur and nobody knows when the situation will be under control .I can see the championsip being shelved this year as little money will be made so they may want to think about next year instead .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    Spot on,
    Up to a week ago Offaly probably had about 5 cases confirmed in the previous month.
    This can spread really fast, and now that we have seen the government willing to enforce a localised lockdown id be astonished if it doesn't happen elsewhere in the next few months.
    if 1 good thing came out of the last few days it is the scandalous way some very wealthy beneficiaries run their meat factories has finally been exposed...


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    threeball wrote: »
    Can't see it. Once HQ sees there's no money in it, it will be binned in September.

    They're nearly all charging for club games. There is money to be made
    (I'll pay for the IC games but I'm not paying e25 to watch a few club games over the weekend).

    Any games that weren't going to be on Sky or RTE can be paid streams and they can get the TV money for the other games.

    The big loss will be the AI finals if they have to screen them on RTE, they'd much rather be able to charge for those ones as well to compensate the loss of sell outs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,513 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss



    Any games that weren't going to be on Sky or RTE can be paid streams and they can get the TV money for the other games.

    Isn't just about every game that matters likely to be on Sky or RTE though?
    A knockout football championship is 31 games, and knockout hurling about 14 games. Hurling might have some sort of backdoor so lets say 55 games.
    Isn't the Sky/RTE deal for 35 games?
    Games 36-55 aren't likely to be ones where you'll sell 20K subscriptions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭GAA_PUNTER


    Problem is if one county cant compete they cant run it


  • Registered Users Posts: 110 ✭✭GAA_PUNTER


    If one county football team cannot compete they wont run it


  • Registered Users Posts: 201 ✭✭scrubs33


    I know some of the comments around Dublin/Tipp being locked down and giving others a chance were light hearted but looking at the case of the mushroom farm in Tipp what would happen if let’s say Mid Tipperary or even Thurles went into a phase of increased restrictions a week before Championship starts? Do preparations continue without players from that area? Will the county board flex its muscles and say look defending champions here we need a postponement? It will be a massive call if there are issues in any of the superpowers in either hurling or football


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    The Leitrim GAA County Board have decided to play out their decisive club championship games behind closed doors, despite the allowance for 200 spectators at games.

    https://www.otbsports.com/football/leitrim-club-doors-1060787


  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    No harm when it’s only mostly the hangers on getting thickets across the country. Most of them would need a map to find the pitch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,870 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    seligehgit wrote: »
    The Leitrim GAA County Board have decided to play out their decisive club championship games behind closed doors, despite the allowance for 200 spectators at games.

    https://www.otbsports.com/football/leitrim-club-doors-1060787


    It's a smart and surprisingly honest move in my view. When there's only 50 tickets to go around it leaves far more people bitter than happy. There's no fair way of distributing them and there'll inevitably be 100s of people in contact with whoever distributes the tickets seeking to be "looked after".

    Or just mandate that the players get a spare ticket each to bring who they choose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,925 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Today should be All Ireland hurling final day

    **** this virus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,865 ✭✭✭BENDYBINN


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Today should be All Ireland hurling final day

    **** this virus

    The first Sunday in sept should be all Ireland hurling final day....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,925 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    BENDYBINN wrote: »
    The first Sunday in sept should be all Ireland hurling final day....

    Yeah I hate this post 2017 calender


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    Leaks suggesting Cabinet are discussing having all sporting events behind closed doors :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭NabyLadistheman


    This is a madness if it happens what's going on


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    So this decision will resolve the meat factory and house party problems? Disgraceful and disgusting decision if true


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,909 ✭✭✭Coillte_Bhoy


    So this decision will resolve the meat factory and house party problems? Disgraceful and disgusting decision if true

    It was a tweet from RTE Pol Corr, might be bs, hopefully is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    It was a tweet from RTE Pol Corr, might be bs, hopefully is
    seems to be widespread reports currently


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,925 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Id take behind close doors championship as it will be realistically be on TV/streaming services. Just have to make a day of it at home or in a food pub

    Players deserve to have a few games, they broke there backs training at the start of the year and would be a bit unfair if they pull the championship for financial reasons


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Id take behind close doors championship as it will be realistically be on TV/streaming services. Just have to make a day of it at home or in a food pub

    Players deserve to have a few games, they broke there backs training at the start of the year and would be a bit unfair if they pull the championship for financial reasons
    I would take it too but 120 or so spectators at club games at the moment is not a health and safety issue, meat factories and house parties are


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 584 ✭✭✭CiarraiAbu2


    15:12
    All sporting events will take place behind closed doors, under measures being discussed by cabinet this afternoon.

    RTÉ News understands that a decision has been made not to allow spectators at sporting fixtures.

    This makes no sense to me at all, you can't go to match but can book a table and watch it in a crowed pub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Will the 15 limit for outdoor events stop the club championships?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    Will the 15 limit for outdoor events stop the club championships?


    well I think it needs to be clarified. The 200 limit was supposed to include the players. Not possible to have a match if the total limit is 15!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    well I think it needs to be clarified. The 200 limit was supposed to include the players. Not possible to have a match if the total limit is 15!

    Think it's just been clarified that sport events take place without any spectators.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    well I think it needs to be clarified. The 200 limit was supposed to include the players. Not possible to have a match if the total limit is 15!
    I think it will fall under the exception category like religious events are...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭TCDStudent1


    Think it's just been clarified that sport events take place without any spectators.


    so the 15 are the management team, physios etc.?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    People getting out of their faces in bars and hotels and no-one allowed watch a match!!!

    Next time the state wants to do some virtue signalling, the GAA should tell them where to go.

    Seems like some people want us to return to serf status.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    This is bullsh1t.

    People getting p1ssed out of their faces in bars and hotels and no-one allowed watch a fkn match!!!

    Next time the state wants to do some virtue signalling, the GAA should tell them where to go.

    Seems like some people want us to return to serf status.

    They can all they want now while watching the stream on the big screen while downing the pints with their €9 meal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,338 ✭✭✭arctictree


    So my son is playing an u11 football match tonight. So I'm not allowed watch it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    People don't mind tough decisions like this if there's logic, merit and/or common sense behind it, on all known evidence this decision lacks all 3 of the above...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,246 CMod ✭✭✭✭ShamoBuc


    arctictree wrote: »
    So my son is playing an u11 football match tonight. So I'm not allowed watch it? They can go and f**k off!

    Enjoy it! It will probably not kick in till midnight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,253 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    arctictree wrote: »
    So my son is playing an u11 football match tonight. So I'm not allowed watch it? They can go and f**k off!

    If they switched the under 11 match to Greenland or Greece, all the parents could go and watch it then!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Training restricted to 15? FFS. A full panel can't train together. Government are losing the good will big time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    The training restriction is ludicrous, and in effect means that teams can no longer prepare properly.

    The % of positive tests that lead to hospitalization, severe illness and death for age groups taking part in sport are tiny. It is unlikely either that elderly people with underlying conditions are going to be going to see club games.

    Time to call a halt to this. If it is not going to go away then so be it. Can't close the country down for ever, or let it be run by medical bureaucrats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,562 ✭✭✭celt262


    BPKS wrote: »
    If they switched the under 11 match to Greenland or Greece, all the parents could go and watch it then!!

    Or Derrylin


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,292 ✭✭✭tanko


    ShamoBuc wrote: »
    Enjoy it! It will probably not kick in till midnight.

    Kicks in immediately apparently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,385 ✭✭✭franglan


    Think most people appreciate some form of direction or even logic to decisions being made but this very much seems to be lacking. So from what I can gather max of 15 boys training together from same club but "sporting events" (matches) can continue. We can't train together but could play another team with 48 players minimum plus management there no bother. Perhaps they are looking to force the hand of sporting organisations to call off their respective competitons as this set-up of no group training but matches continuing is not sustainable. I can hear a statement from John Horan with bad news incoming...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,551 ✭✭✭SeaFields


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    The training restriction is ludicrous, and in effect means that teams can no longer prepare properly.

    But matches can go ahead! Makes a whole load of sense. As an old fella said to me about crowd attendance, there will be a lot of fellas made selectors this evening.


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  • Posts: 7,712 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    The training restriction is ludicrous, and in effect means that teams can no longer prepare properly.

    The % of positive tests that lead to hospitalization, severe illness and death for age groups taking part in sport are tiny. It is unlikely either that elderly people with underlying conditions are going to be going to see club games.

    Time to call a halt to this. If it is not going to go away then so be it. Can't close the country down for ever, or let it be run by medical bureaucrats.

    It’s not about everyone catching, it’s about everyone spreading it.


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